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Hatebreed Frontman Bashes Malicious Peer to Peer Posters

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Like most artists, Hatebreed frontman and former Headbangers Ball host, Jamey Jasta, isn’t too stoked about illegal downloading. But Jasta’s latest gripe with peer to peer networks has nothing to do with lost income or prematurely released songs, but with something even more potentially damaging — disinformation.

On a December 28 post on the band’s MySpace, Jasta attacked “some lame a–hole” who posted the 1998 song "Smash Your Enemies" as "Kill the Niggers" on various file sharing services. It’s not the first time the band has dealt with malicious downloaders. In 2004, a Hatebreed hater posted the 1998 song “Kill an Addict” on Kazaa under the same ugly title.

"This is why illegal music downloading is f—ed up," Jasta wrote."Any true Hatebreed fans know the real deal and know we would never have a song called that, but there are a lot of young kids that don’t buy music legally that went online to steal our music and saw this f—ed up song title and were offended and wrote us messages and hate mail. This is so lame. Hatebreed is a band with positive messages of respect for all… It offends us that people would even think for one second that we would have any racist, homophobic or sexist type agenda."

Source: Headbanger's Blog

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1. Public Execution writes:

I hope Hatebreed doesn't have any true fans.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 1:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. RedrumSyndrum writes:

haha i've actually came across the misnamed songs and i knew that Hatebreed's songs really weren't even called that or whatever since they are mostly positive and all that sh**

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 1:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. crack almighty writes:

Hatebreed = No brains
I expected better from jamie he is acting all emo.
so the overal idea is that downloading is wrong because you can change the song title?
That is the stupidest excuse

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 1:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Demoncleaner writes:

Bashes is the new Slams

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 3:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. moshface20 writes:

Hell lets just give away our hard worked on music fuc who needs to make a living anyway. So what if some dumbass changes the name of our music everybody still looks at us the same.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 7:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. moshface20 writes:

illegal downloading=people to cheap to buy the music

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 7:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. brandedcfh420 writes:

i do agree that people mislabeling files suck elephant balls

here is a note to all the musicians crying about illegal d/l:
how many times have you toured the world? how many times have you been on ozzfest? stfu you whiny ass, greedy, dont care about our fans musicians!!!! you all are crying about illegal downloading!! well, get your record execs to lower the prices of cds and maybe the people will buy the cds instead of d/l them....we are tired of being fuked over by the record companies that continue to raise the prices of cds due to having one extra song!! well, 99% of the bands out there suck donkey balls, and are not worth the money they are getting paid.

too many times i have paid full price for cds only to realize i just wasted my money. too many bands out there are making music that fits the flavor of the week. if you are all so tired of illegal d/l, then create you own labels, produce your own music, promote it yourself, sale it at a website created by you, and then tour with your own promotions...OR ARE YOU ALL TOO LAZY TO WNAT TO DO THAT. JUST SIT BACK AND ALLOW THE EXECS TO CHART YOUR FUTURE. THESE GREEDY EXECS DONT CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR BAND. THEY ONLY WANT THE MONEY!! OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE FUTURE AND EMBRACE IT. IF YOU CHOOSE TO KEEP CRYING, THEN YOU WILL BE JUST ANOTHER BOOK ON THE SHELF COLLECTING DUST!!!!

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 7:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. smoothjazz writes:

yeah i admit that sometimes i do feel bad about downloading songs. but when youre a grad student its hard to go out and spend 15-20 dollars and other ridiculous prices that places charge on an album. since the metal industry is different from the rap or pop industry, i try and do my part to support bands by going to shows and getting tshirts and crap there. its cheaper for me and i feel the band gets more support that way instead of the 35 cents they get after an album is sold and the corps take all the profit.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 11:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. broken face writes:

f*** all u hatebreed haters. Im a massive fan of theres n i ave actually came across tht song on limewire

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10. wrath5316 writes:

....."kill the naggers" lol

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 3:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. wrath5316 writes:

Like Jamey! Stupid nagger.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 3:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. stephen writes:

Post 7: that message to musicians is valid if you're talking about the Ozzy's of the world. And the Eddie Van Halen's of the world. But for those bands who are just starting out and are just trying to break even, downloading can actually make a difference in their standard of living. I'm not concerned for bands that already make like $100,000 a night touring (eventhough they're the ones who complain the loudest: Gene Simmons, Metallica, etc.) The problem is for those who don't have the money to properly market themselves and can't produce, package, and distribute the music themselves because they need the funding from a record label.

And for the record, f*** Hatebreed. Stupidass soul-less, ball-less, braindead, miserable excuse for metal. You wanna learn how to play a Hatebreed song on guitar? Tune the f***er as low as it will possibly go, and play bar chords continuously without straying beyond the 5th fret or below the top 3 strings. There you go. Enjoy.

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13. Red_Chord writes:

Oh f*** off d*** weed, it's not because it"s not hard to play on the guitar that it's not good. I am so tired of this argument. just say you don't like the sound I am fine with it but some bands do not play really hard guitar tabs but heck it's still very good.

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14. Kalis_wrath writes:

Oh boof***inhoo to Jamie! Get over it! Also I am hard pressed to believe that a band named f***ing Hatebreed could have positive messages! Jamie is a f***ing emo d***smoker! UGH! I loathe stupidity! It really should be litteraly painful!

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 9:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. STFU writes:

Hatebreed dont claim to be a metal band, and never have. And f*** you u wrath u peace of sh** racist. Grow the f*** up people, everything that isnt metal is NOT f***ing EMO, what the f*** is everyones f***ing obsession with emo on a metal site, something i cant comprehend i guess. I dont even like Hatebreed, but hes just complaining about people renaming his bands songs to racist sexist crap. So i dont blame the guy. And Jasta was born of the rape of his mother, so thats where the name "Hatebreed" comes from. Once again people stupidity such as the moron above show its face.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 10:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Kalis_wrath writes:

Um... I have been around the metal world 14 years and know my stuff! A true man of steel doesnt complain like a b****! Furtermore I dont give a sh** how he got the name of his band. You dont call your band Hatebreed and write goody two shoes lyrics! Its very hypocritical in my eyes. Maybe "Mommy was unkind enough to bring me into this world by a rapist" would be better. Abortion would have been a smart choice as her dumbass son has done no good for this world and as useless as the man who raped her.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 11:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. stephen writes:

Wow...Like I said before, I can't stand Hatebreed's music, but damn... that last post was just... in poor taste.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 11:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Agnostic Priest writes:

This is pretty funny for me cuz a few years back I remember seeing that song "Kill The n*****s" on limewire, and since the bands name is Hatebreed I found it kind of hard to believe they were a band with positive messages and respect for all. Since then and up untill now I always thought these guys were a bunch of racist white-trash hardcore fags, but now I know they're just not racist.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 11:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Kalis_wrath writes:

As a woman I would be hard pressed to raise a rape child. If not for myself, but for the child. I think that is in bad taste.

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 11:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Dark_Funeral writes:

lol "positive lyrics"
DESTROY EVERYTHING! DESTROY EVERYTHING!

# Jan 5, 2008 @ 11:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Public Execution writes:

Post 16, that was very poor taste. Please go tell the son he should have been aborted, I am sure that will go over well. He obviously has done something, he is living quite well with the money he makes from his music. That said, I think Hatebreed is one of the worst bands I have ever heard. Every song sounds exactly the same, and it is so boring. Why any fan of music woud listen to that trash is beyond me.

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22. cky--()aild writes:

he should go back to Headbangers ball....its really starting to suck!

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23. Jasta is God writes:

hey Dark Funeral.... how bout finishing the lyrics...... "OBLITERATE WHAT MAKES US WEAK" U DUMB f***

# Jan 6, 2008 @ 3:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. RememberMetal? writes:

For me Hatebreed is just kind of there.
I have (legally) downloaded two of their songs, and never bought an album. I think--like Korn, Metallica, Trivium etc, they make for a fine gateway band.

In this situation I do feel bad for them though....Given their name it's only a skip away from leading people to do something pathetic and trite like this.

Jasta may not be the most impressive lyricist, but he is above this sh**.

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25. Red_Chord writes:

Usually I agree with Kalis_Wrath but what he said made me feel uncomfortable...I think it goes to far this time. no hard feelings, had to say it.

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26. Kalis_wrath writes:

Red cord, I am a woman. I understand that its not Jamies mothers fault what hap to her, however I think its wrong of her to bring a rape child into this world. If I were in her shoes I would have abort.

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27. XWigglesX writes:

Racism and rape are not funny and you shouldn't joke about them.

# Jan 6, 2008 @ 9:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. cruor writes:

I think if Jamey's mother chose not to abort then I think that is her choice and hers alone

I don't like Hatebreed's music but I sympathize with Jamey on this issue seeing how this can make them look like rascists and homophobes however he sounds like a whining b**** in the article

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29. metalmayhem writes:

love em or hate em, hatebreed is one of the bands that led the recent resurgence of metal and hardcore. plus they are one of the hardest working bands out there, and jamey is one of the hardest working dudes in the industry. nothing but respect for these guys even tho i cant listen to them for more than about 20 minutes without getting bored.

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30. cruor writes:

I guarantee he doesnt work as hard as someone like Peter Tagtgren

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31. metalmayhem writes:

thats fine...its not a contest. they both work hard, its good for music. and whoever posted that song with the f***ed up title is just a completely ignorant fool. considering peter is also the mayor of a town in sweden, you are probably correct....

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32. Red_Chord writes:

Whoops Kalis_Wrath, sorry about that. I always thought that you were a guy. Feel bad now. But again, it's her choice to let him live and frankly, I think it must have been hard for her but she chose to honour life rather destroy it.

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# Jan 7, 2008 @ 3:46 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Kalis_wrath writes:

Its ok Red Chord, the metal world is a sausage fest. Hahaha! I am one of the very few true female metal goddesses and proud to be who I am. Not compleately by my own proclimations, many of my peers in the world of metal that know me well have given me that charge. I could go more into detail, however that may bore you. I dont know it just seems to me that raiseing a rape child is just spreading the mysery.

# Jan 8, 2008 @ 12:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. cruor writes:

Kalis_wrath says: "I dont know it just seems to me that raiseing a rape child is just spreading the mysery"

You see that is your choice and thats fine as everyone has their own opinions on the subject but his mother made her own choice not to and thats fine no matter how sh**ty his music is.

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# Jan 8, 2008 @ 12:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Red_Chord writes:

I like details and I don't think it would bore me. And I think that lately, females have gotten involved a lot more in the metal kingdom and I think that's very good, except for useless b****es like Kittie and Otep...

And you could see raising a rape child as spreading the misery but I look at it like spreading hope, hop that out of all the bad things that goes on on this lame world, some good things can come out. That was a courageous decision in my book.

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# Jan 8, 2008 @ 9:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. brandedcfh420 writes:

well, on the comments about aborting a rape baby, all i will say is this:

his mother brought him in, loved him, showed him life. any1 who says that rape babies should be aborted should rethink that thought. not trying to fight, but honestly, its not his fault his mother was raped, and he is pushing forward in life. thats good!!

its just that, no matter what any1 says or thinks, the fact is mislabeled files is the topic here, not abortion.

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37. Terminator writes:

whether or not a rape baby should be aborted is purely situational and cant be judged with vague generalizations. if the mother is both willing and able to provide the necessary love and accomodations for the child and chooses to have the child, then so be it. or if they choose to abort it, i support that decision too.

bottom line: it is the woman's choice and should be no one else's.

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38. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Okay...We just went from music titles being f*cked with, to the fact that Jamey Jasta is a product of rape...wow...

As far as mistitling songs are concerned, yeah thats retarded, but don't b**** about it, just state that those aren't the titles for those who AREN'T in the know...

Now, Kalis_wrath, whoa...I mean, damn...You went there...sh*t...Like on an individual level, I understand where you're coming from, like if its YOUR SITUATION, and you chose to abort, thats understood...But you actually went as far as saying that Jamey's mom should've done the same...That, I really can't agree with. Mind you I'm not a fan of Hatebreed by far, but bringing his background (conceived thru rape) into the "...thats why the music sucks/thats why he should've been aborted" subject is a tad...wrong...Okay, thats REALLY WRONG...Even for me, and that says alot...

I guess I shouldn't talk because I poke fun at the fact that Jonathan Davis (Korn frontman) was raped as a kid...Actually, I poke fun at every traumatizing experience that guy had to go thru prior to being a sellout Nu-Metal act...Mostly because me and the guys figure "If you worked in a morgue, and didn't do anything remotely brutal/trve/necro with your music (Not even slightly Death/Thrash/Black Metal-inspired), you probably should'nt have tried to do Metal..."

Again, as far as abortion and rape are concerned...Abortion should always be a woman's choice. Even in cases of rape, that choice should be solely left to the woman in question. But if the child is born, and the woman was more than willing to care for and love the child, I'd never speak against the woman's choice...Mind you, there are people in the world, who genuinely suck (Hitler, Bush, etc.), then I'd be with Kalis_wrath talking about how they should've been aborted...And there are people that I jokingly say should've been aborted....I guess basically what I'm saying is that jokingly I'll say someone should be aborted, but seriously, I wouldn't go there...Unless they had it coming...

(I may have said this before...I've been drugged up since last night at the hospital...if I don't make sense, sorry...)

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39. Agnostic Priest writes:

Why is everyone talking about rape and abortion? seriously

# Jan 8, 2008 @ 7:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Kalis_wrath writes:

Agree with me or not, I dont care. I think Jamie is a b**** and his mother is an unthoughtful person. I gave my opinion and some dont agree, so what? I was not asking for anyone to agree with me by any means. Red Chord as far as Kittie goes I think they try way too hard. Otep is good, but Jo Bench of Bolt thrower, Angela Gossow of Arch Enemy and Christina Scabbia rock! I bloody hate Evanessance with a passion that burns hotter than Hell its self! I have almost 15 years in the metal kingdom and will die a metaler! Any questions are welcome.

# Jan 8, 2008 @ 7:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. brandedcfh420 writes:

i have a question for you kalis:
why are you acting all big and bad a$$ while only showing you are trash?? this whole thread was about mislabeled files and you went and smacktalked a bunch of hate on someone and their mother because you are just a worthless piec of dogsh!t, and after seeing your opinions, which mean ZERO, i say that you are nothing but a wannabe metal head.

# Jan 8, 2008 @ 7:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Kalis_wrath writes:

Hahaha! Post 41 I atleast did not attack anyone here personaly. I guess they forgot to teach you in school that opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one and they all stink... including yours. As far as being strong, yes I am. I think you need to learn proper punctuation too.

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43. brandedcfh420 writes:

kalis, personaly is spelled personally..2 Ls not 1...before you go off and talk about punctuation, you need to learn to spell!!

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44. brandedcfh420 writes:

you know what, you are 100% incorrect about personal attacks kalis. you personally attacked both jamey and his mother. im sure others will agree as well.

re-read your post 40. (I think Jamie is a b**** and his mother is an unthoughtful person.)
very personal attack!

here is a snippet from your post 16
(Maybe "Mommy was unkind enough to bring me into this world by a rapist" would be better. Abortion would have been a smart choice as her dumbass son has done no good for this world and as useless as the man who raped her)

another persoanl attack on his mother. for not attacking personally, you sure seem to rack up the personal attacks!!

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45. Kalis_wrath writes:

You idiot I ment members on here. Do I need to be that specific? I am done with you as you are a sad little boy who needs to add fire in order to feel big. The point of my post 40 was to end my portion of argument and am not saying anything further as its pointless to debate this any longer.

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46. Public Execution writes:

Branded- 1 Kalis- 0

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47. cruor writes:

Kalis_wrath what about Tarja Turunen from Nightwish?

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48. Dark_Funeral writes:

public execution keeping score haha

to post 22: headgivers ball does suck. i dont even stay up to watch it anymore, they moved it from 10 to 11 and i think its bullsh** just to stay up and watch 3 good bands out of 20 when i can just youtube them.

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49. Kalis_wrath writes:

Ah... yes the lovely Tarja! She is a powerful and gorgouse woman! I am a tad confused, however I thought Nightwish was broke up then I hear they are working on a new album. Great Venom choice by the way. I think I shall pop that in the c.d player tommrow on the way into work. I always found it to be a great album to start the day.

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50. stephen writes:

Nightwish haven't broken up (that I know of). They just fired their female singer. Which I personally think sucks, because she was the best part of that band. In fact...

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51. cruor writes:

"I thought Nightwish was broke up then I hear they are working on a new album"

They never broke up they kicked Tarja out of the band due to a "lack of devotion" or something along those lines.

Welcome to Hell, Black Metal, At War With Satan, and Metal Black are some of the best albums ever. HAIL VENOM!!!

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52. SexBloodandMetal writes:

As far as Kalis is concerned, I'm not trying to change your opinion, but you had an opinion, and I wanted to state my opinion on your opinion (I'm still drugged, excuse me)...But you gotta admit, that is some serious contradictions in what you say regarding personal attacks...And grammar/punctuation/spelling while I'm at it...Other than that, I've got nothing against anyone here...

Nightwish is OKAY...

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53. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Oh sh** thats awesome, me and cruor are both listening to Sodom...

"Welcome to Hell" is the only song by Venom worth listening to...

More on Nightwish: they aren't broken up, and Tarja is one chiseled woman!

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54. cruor writes:

cause Sodom are f***ing metal gods man and SB&M great cd/song M16 has to be my favorite behind Agent Orange

She is one hell of a piece of work that is for sure

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55. Red_Chord writes:

Yep Kalis, the names you mentioned are great examples of females in heavy metal, I agree.

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56. Red_Chord writes:

Oh ! Evanescence sucks huge loads of toads sh**.

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57. Kalis_wrath writes:

I am a cell phone poster, so sometimes my phone does not go as fast as my brain does and cant catch every letter the box I type in is about as big as two and a half quarters put together. So if something gets missed its not all my fault unless I am drunk. Hahahaha! I think Sodom are great! S/t is my choice album. I am also a huge fan of King Dimond and Mercyful fate. Young King was a stud astheticly and Abigal gets me going! Nuns have no fun was the first vid I saw and I was hooked!

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58. Kalis_wrath writes:

I also forgot to ask if anyone knows why Jamie is no longer doing Headbangers ball?

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59. Red_Chord writes:

As far as I know, the show is just solely focusing on music videos right now and that is why Jamie hasn't appeared in a while, but I am not 100% certain of that. He did make that show better in my book.

I didn't even take sides whether I liked Hatebreed or not and yes folks, I love Hatebreed. It's just fun to see how many people hate it. I admit I am a little bit surprised. But hey, you can't argue with people's tastes

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60. SexBloodandMetal writes:

(Not so drugged up today, but I'm eating solid food again!)

Hey cruor, for some reason I love the song "Incest" (from Sodom's "Agent Orange") mostly because without the lyrics at hand, me and the guys make fun of how the only audbile thing you hear in the song is "...*inaudbile* PERSUADE MY SISTER..." and thats the only thing that tells you what its about...In my personal opinion Sodom sounds better live...Actually, the fact that you're getting into Sodom so hard right now lets me further know you'd get along well with my bro Austin...

Of course, I also love Kreator (when they weren't doing that industrial sh!t)...

Actually, I've been getting into alot of Old School/European Thrash lately...But I'm digging Sodom mostly because they obviously are Black Metal-inspired, just like you can tell when listening to Kreator that they were inspired by Venom...

Hatebreed still sucks by the way...

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61. cruor writes:

Sodom came out before black metal even started, they are apart of the 1st wave of black metal along with Celtic Frost/Hellhammer, Kreator, Destruction, Bathory, Mercyful Fate/King Diamond and all those guys

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62. cruor writes:

its not just a sodom thing its all forms of black metal actually, 1st wave, 2nd wave Norwegian Black Metal, Folkish Black Metal, Symphonic Black metal, black metal is my thing right now

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63. Public Execution writes:

I always personally considered Sodom closer to Thrash Metal than Black Metal.

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64. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Dude, Black Metal has been my thing circa 2006...I don't know where I'd be now without it...

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65. SexBloodandMetal writes:

And Public Execution: Apparently Sodom is "Blackened Thrash Metal"

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66. cruor writes:

Public Execution says: "I always personally considered Sodom closer to Thrash Metal than Black Metal"

They are a thrash band but listen to Obsessed By Cruelty or In the Sign of Evil that sounds more like Primitive Black Metal but then listen to the next cd (Persecution Mania) and beyond and we hear a thrash band, after Tapping the Vein they started adding Hardcore to their sound as well until Code Red

Black Metal has been my thing since I discovered Emperor's In The Nightside Eclipse Auguest 06, I dont remember the date but I remember the day cause a trop storm killed my power and I couldnt put it on my ipod and I didnt have any battaries for the cd player in my room, anyway I was not ready for that and it blew my mind, my first BM album

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67. Agnostic Priest writes:

I can see Sodom as being kind of blackish, 1st wave of black metal though? I wouldn't say so- they were more involved with the german thrash scene. But blackened thrash is a term for them I'd say.

Oh and Kreator and Destruction are not first wave of black metal dude, pure f***in' thrash all the way

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68. SexBloodandMetal writes:

cruor, I still love "Inno A Satana"....

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69. Public Execution writes:

I was actually listening to In the Nightside Eclipse today. That is a fantastic album. I love all of Emperor's stuff, even when they changed there sound to more symphonic metal.

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70. cruor writes:

Inno A Satana is a great song. Emperor is a top 10 favorite band for me and I appreciate their entire discography (I wish I could do that for Metallica) and their symphonic stuff shows their diversity and it shows that Ihsahn is a genius

Agnostic Priest says: "I can see Sodom as being kind of blackish, 1st wave of black metal though? I wouldn't say so- they were more involved with the german thrash scene. But blackened thrash is a term for them I'd say. Oh and Kreator and Destruction are not first wave of black metal dude, pure f***in' thrash all the way"

Maybe not Destruction or Kreator I just mentioned them because their first couple of cds had a significant influence on the 2nd Wave of Black Metal which is what is considered to be real (or trve) Black Metal while the 1st wave was merely "proto" Black Metal which is why I do include Sodom in the 1st wave because their 1st cd has more in common with primitive black metal than it does thrash metal (imo) but with Persecution Mania through Tapping the Vein and Code Red to the present their is no other way to describe those masterpieces as Blackend Thrash Metal

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71. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Yeah, all the sh** that cruor said in post #70 is true

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