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Pantera Members In Dispute Over Domain Name

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The surviving members of PANTERA are involved in a legal battle with their former webmaster over the Pantera.com domain name, which once served as the band's official web site (since February 2003, PANTERA's official web site has been located at www.officialpantera.com). According to the Justia.com legal portal, which maintains a database of Federal District Court filings and dockets, Pantera.com webmaster L. Alfenas filed a lawsuit in the Michigan Western District Court on August 2, 2007 against the Pantera Partnership (consisting of Vincent Paul Abbott, Philip Hansen Anselmo, Rex Robert Brown, and the estate of Darell Lance ["Dimebag Darrell"] Abbott) over the domain, which has apparently been registered to Alfenas since 1998. The Pantera Partnership, meanwhile, filed a suit of their own in the Michigan Eastern District Court against Alfenas (who resides in Michigan) the very next day, August 3, 2007.

Writing on the PanteraChat.com message board (which is also apparently registered to Alfenas), Alfenas (who posts under the name "Alfie") stated about the lawsuits, "Their [PANTERA's] lawyer just said, 'Give us the domains or we are going to sue you. They could have saved a lot of money if they were just nice. You don't treat someone that's done nine years' worth of work for you like a piece of shit. Especially me."

Regarding his decision to file a lawsuit before the PANTERA camp had a chance to file theirs, Alfenas wrote, "I filed first because I knew they were going to file the next day." He added, "They are going to argue trademark dilution — meaning that because I own the site, they are losing money and I am tarnishing their mark." [According to Wikipedia, "trademark dilution is a trademark law concept forbidding the use of a famous trademark in a way that would lessen its uniqueness. In most cases, trademark dilution involves an unauthorized use of another's trademark on products that do not compete with, and have little connection with, those of the trademark owner. For example, a famous trademark used by one company to refer to hair care products, might be diluted if another company began using a similar mark to refer to breakfast cereals or spark plugs."]

On the possible outcome of this legal battle, Alfenas said, "One of two things will happen: I will win and keep Pantera.com and PanteraChat.com; or I lose it all, and lots of money to lawyers with it . . . Best part is, they [PANTERA] are using two lawyers — one at $500 per hour and some intern at probably $250 per hour. This is going to drag on for a lonnnnnng time if I have anything to say about it."

When asked by one of the other registered members on the PanteraChat.com message board if the surviving members of PANTERA have offered him any money in exchange for transferring the registration to the Pantera.com domain name over to them, Alfenas replied, "PANTERA has never paid me a dollar in nine years, the entire time I've run the site."

Dimebag Darrell was co-founder and lead guitarist for PANTERA. When PANTERA broke up in 2003, Dimebag and his brother Vinnie Paul formed DAMAGEPLAN. On Dec. 8, 2004, while performing with DAMAGEPLAN at the Alrosa Villa in Columbus, Ohio, Dimebag was shot and killed onstage by Nathan Gale. He was 38 years old.

PANTERA's career overview CD, "The Best of Pantera: Far Beyond the Great Southern Cowboys' Vulgar Hits!" (Elektra/Rhino), was certified platinum on January 13, 2006 by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for shipments in excess of one million copies in the U.S. The band's classic "Vulgar Display of Power" (Elektra) album was certified double-platinum in 2004, signifying shipments of more than 2,000,000 units in the U.S. since its February 25, 1992 release.

Rhino Video in April 2006 released PANTERA's "3 Vulgar Videos From Hell" — a three-DVD set featuring all the band's videos as well as live footage shot during the Monsters of Rock gig in Moscow. Originally released on DVD in 1999, this version features the same content with improved menus and all-new Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound. In fact, it is the first PANTERA release ever in 5.1 Surround Sound. It features: "Cowboys From Hell The Videos", "Vulgar Video", "3 Watch It Go", and "Pantera Live From Monsters of Rock In Moscow".

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. Liar,liar writes:

Vinnie Paul should get legal writes to the Pantera name in my opinion.

# Aug 31, 2007 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Diamond Oz writes:

I like this guys reasoning that they could have saved themselves alot of trouble if they were nice.

# Aug 31, 2007 @ 5:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. fearthedje writes:

just goes to prove that in the end, all that matters is the all mighty dollar to most people, and the people that do what they do out of the love they have for it always get f***ed over because of money.

# Aug 31, 2007 @ 5:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. slick writes:

you would f*** someone over for the right amount of monet too.

# Aug 31, 2007 @ 6:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. fearthedje writes:

yea i guess i would for a monet, i mean, those are masterpieces.

# Aug 31, 2007 @ 6:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. fearthedje writes:

and no, i wouldnt really care about a domain name if someone had been doing it for so long, and i would have been nice about it if i wanted it back; but then again im not a total a$$hole to most people, only dumb f***s like you that misspell money.

# Aug 31, 2007 @ 6:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. relentless austin writes:

f***ing retarded!

# Sep 1, 2007 @ 1:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. SlayerRulz writes:

I happen to know Alfie (not really well just over the 'net) and he's always seemed like a stand up guy. His claim that he ran Pantera.com without ever getting a cent is something he has asserted since before Pantera broke up so I believe him. As far as what (ex) Pantera themselves are doing here, they've all turned into asses since Dime was murdered. I guess they have a reason, but that doesn't mean they can just go around treating ppl however they want. I used to see Vinnie in Target and Circuit City (I live in Arlington, TX) and he always had a cool word. Now he's all cold shoulder and I don't even bring up Dime or Pantera or Damageplan for that matter. But whatever. They should just give Alfie some cash and then fight it out amongst themselves. They seem to deserve each other nowadays.

# Sep 1, 2007 @ 11:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. ZT writes:

"Now he's all cold shoulder and I don't even bring up Dime or Pantera or Damageplan for that matter." Gee, I wonder why............

# Sep 1, 2007 @ 8:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. JMILZ writes:

IT'S OVER, IT'S ALL OVER.

# Sep 2, 2007 @ 12:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Richard writes:

I post on panterachat, and if the domain is ever handed over to vinnie i'll quit posting there. what there doing to alf is terrible, its all about money. lets see how many more releases of pantera vinnieputs out to get more of it. what a fa**ot

# Sep 2, 2007 @ 5:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. brandedcfh420 writes:

goddamn peopole learn to spell...
money=money...not monet
their=their...there, meaning their money
why cant you illiterate dumbf***s learn to spell...you only make yourselves look retarded and illiterate......

# Sep 2, 2007 @ 6:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Richard writes:

Nothing worse than a gangster jew telling someone else how spell on the internet. you must be proud

# Sep 2, 2007 @ 7:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Richard writes:

And yes, i left out a word in that sentence, on purpose Lol.

# Sep 2, 2007 @ 7:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Public Execution writes:

I wish the old Vinnie Paul would come back. Hell Yeah sucks, and now he is being an d*** trying to this stupid domain name. Phil Anselmo doesn't even look like this much of an @$$.

# Sep 2, 2007 @ 8:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Gofuckyourself writes:

Phil anselmo is the most fake a$$ p***y b**** motherf***er ever to walk the earth!!!
What a turd lovin junkie!!!!!...........I HATE HIS RICH A$$>;.... MARK MY WORDS c***!!!
f*** ALL THE RICH!!!!!!!!................NUKE PHIL!!!

# Sep 8, 2007 @ 12:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. GetchaPull writes:

Pantera Still Rules!!!

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 8:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

This is bull. The guy should be allowed to keep the site, as co-founder with Dime he should have every right to. God I hate people sometimes...

Now Playing : Pantera - "Walk"

# Sep 11, 2007 @ 8:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. chet writes:

your all f***in stupid . did i spell that right?

# Sep 13, 2007 @ 12:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. imajewandoffended writes:

Hey at least i have money u trailor trash redneck, go f*** ur sister. Since thats the onlyway u can get p***y.Richard, or should i say d***!

# Sep 13, 2007 @ 5:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. RobertHollis writes:

Alfies a b****. So f*** him.

# Sep 15, 2007 @ 6:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. russ writes:

think god dimebag is not here to see this f***ed up.sh** r.i.p dime

# Sep 23, 2007 @ 11:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Godsong6 writes:

Shut the f*** up everyone all this talk about Alfie Website and Vinnie Paul's c*** and balls. Enough you p***ies. And I want a Monet as well Goddammit!

# Sep 25, 2007 @ 7:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. SlayerRulz writes:

"Gee, I wonder why............" No need to wonder dumbass, I spelled it out for you. Next time read the whole post and keep your holier than thou comments to yourself.

# Sep 25, 2007 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. livingDead writes:

can i have a monet?

# Sep 25, 2007 @ 9:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. russ writes:

godsong6 make me shut the f*** up BOY.

# Sep 26, 2007 @ 11:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. the druid writes:

why would anyone sue PANTERA

# Sep 26, 2007 @ 12:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. southern slumlord writes:

Pantera rules....

Alfie deserves some credit for running the site

Who are Pantera's Lawyers??? representing Vinnie or Phil??? cause those are 2 separate camps. It seems like a vinnie move. I doubt phil or rex give much of a f*** about pantera dot com, anymore. Who does?!?!

Listen to DOWN!

# Sep 26, 2007 @ 4:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. actually writes:

Hey chet, when you typed "your all f***in stupid . did i spell that right?" the your should be you're. You may have your words spelled right but one is there that shouldn't be

# Sep 26, 2007 @ 4:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Godsong6 writes:

"Make me shut up... mah mah mah mah wah wha wha wah Go to Hell Lil' russy-poo.

# Sep 27, 2007 @ 3:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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