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Necro Leaves The 2007 Sounds Of The Underground Tour

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Self proclaimed "death rap" artist Necro has issued the follwing statement from his official Myspace:

"I decided to leave the tour collectively with my manager and booking agent (both tour organizers) because we felt the tour’s demographic was not receiving hip hop well. I was facing hostile, disrespectful crowds and was returning the same energy back ten-fold by being more aggressive than them.

It was making a lot of people in the tour crew nervous and there was concern someone might get hurt (NOT ME). It was also being suggested that maybe I tone down my live show and not antagonize the already antagonistic crowd. I couldn’t roll with that as it’s not my style. I was holding back enough as it is but there is a line. All the bands on the tour loved us and everyone behind the scenes knew we displayed major heart and never once got phased by the hostility. We finished every show with middle fingers up and a big "Fuck You" to the crowd.

I will make one thing clear for the haters: we NEVER got booed OFF the stage. Not once. Yes a ton of emo kids booed us at every show, but we had a twenty-five minute set every night and we stayed on stage for every minute of it, and we represented. Every show had at least 100 to 200 Necro fans in the pit tearing it up, and our meet and greets were incredible!

It’s just a shame these little kids are so close-minded. The majority of the hate was coming from mop top emo sixteen-year olds who have no clue who the originators of metal are, and didn’t respect my rest in peace chant to metal legends (Dime, Cliff, Chuck, Piggy, SOB).

As far as the tour organizers and I are concerned, you are my people so it’s all love and I’m thankful for the opportunity to prove I can murder it in the worst of situations. This actually did a lot for me and is just one move in many my team will make to blow Necro up"

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1. robw writes:

best story of the month???
they werent closed-mind, you just SUCK!

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 7:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Diamond Oz writes:

Necro still has my support! Although I still say booking him on this tour was a stupid idea.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 7:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Bastard_Of_Bodom writes:

Thats kinda funny but i'm sure it wasn't filled with emo kids

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 7:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. rk writes:

see even hiphoppers think emos are fags

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 7:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. deathbringer writes:

"we felt the tour’s demographic was not receiving hip hop well" - No sh**! If you actually buy the idea of Necro being some combination of rap and metal, it might sound good on paper. But the reality is that there is not enough metal in there to even be relevant to a tour like this. I wouldn't have enjoyed it either and I'm plenty old enough and know who the originators of metal are.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 7:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Jrizzle writes:

I personally don't think Necro should be touring with the likes of Chimaira, The Number 12 looks like you, Shadows Fall, Job For A Cowboy, Amon Amarth, etc. Although I think its gay that emo kids booed him off. He should of kicked there asses

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 7:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Joo writes:

Rap is crap. That's why it's not well recieved, you dont have to be an emo kid to understand that.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 8:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Stephen writes:

"Death rap" = novelty act.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 8:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. dan writes:

I was at the show and it was great exept for these guys!
good thing they wont bother true metalheads anymore

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 9:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Acid Rain writes:

Really not a surprise at all. How did he expect the metal community to react to his music. Welcome it with open arms? I think not.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 9:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. mimic writes:

anyone who deigns an entire genre "crap" is an idiot.

It's a shame that NECRO couldn't get the people on the tour to get his style of music, i think that, yeah , partly they were quite closed minded, and partly he does need to come across a bit more light hearted, if you ever heard his lyrics you'd understand lol.

personally if i don't like an act/band on a tour i go to then I'll just sit it out and wait for the next band, as I'd like to think that if someone else didn't appreciate the band i enjoyed then they'd do the same and not get in the way of me enjoying the music i like. but i guess emo kids just don't know how to be polite huh

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 9:17 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Diamond Oz writes:

Mimic knows the score!

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 9:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Metal Matt writes:

Its not that we are close minded...its just that you suck at rapping

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 9:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. Thrash Banger writes:

The problem is that rap/hip-hop music is everywhere in mainstream culture, and most non-rap fans are pretty sick of it being shoved down thier throughs. This guy (Necro) seems to know what he is talking about metal-wise. But I think most metalheads would like to see pure metal now and not a lot of crossover action (but maybe I'm wrong). Not to mention a certain band that had a frontman with an ever-present red baseball cap. That band killed the idea of rap and metal mixing for a lot of headbangers.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 9:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Rollmonkey writes:

I saw Necro at Sounds two days ago. Right after the first song, the lead singer went on to call all the Emo kids in the audicance "emo fa**ots" and kept going song after song. He could only call the audicance mother-f***ers so many times before his whole shtick started to wear thing.

And the band was entirely 100% out of place on a bill like Sounds of the Underground. No instruments on stage = a clear sign of trouble. Things were shaky right from the beginning of their set and just got worse. Maybe if it was Family Values it wouldn't be so bad, but the bill and the band just didn't click and it showed.

I also have a hard time believing that the bands on the bill liked Necro too. I couldn't help but really really really dislike the guys when the set was over. I can't really say I feel bad that they're not doing any more shows.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 10:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. The_Coroner writes:

Well, out of curiousity I checked out his Myspace page and sampled the songs he has posted.....my conclusion is, what did he expect? How does he even have the gall to consider himself, as his myspace page says, "rap/metal/death metal"? Hell, I've heard harder lyrics from the Geto Boys back in the day. And I didn't even hear ANYTHING that could be considered "metal". I hope he doesn't think the power chord playing over a drum machine counts. Wrong tour, bro.....Quit your whining.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 10:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Jrizzle writes:

After reading the post about how Necro called the audience "emo fa**ots", i take back what I said about how he should've kicked their asses. I would've booed him off if he called me a fa**ot as well. Also, yes calling an entire genre crap is dumb. I actually enjoy some rap such as N.W.A and Wu-Tang Clan.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 10:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. sarah smith writes:

i don't care rap music f*cking sucks too . i like heavy metal and rock and much more too .rap music sucks too i don't think sh*t on that too .666

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 10:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. falleninkorn writes:

i saw them in orlando, and the only cheers they got were when they got off stage.
worst "band" ever

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 10:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Bulletproof Scales writes:

SOTU is a terrible tour to begin with. Who gives a f***.

Gotta agree with him about the close-minded fools. Sadly, most metalheads suffer this plight.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 11:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. pursuit_of_ vikings writes:

No, falleninkorn, heavyheavylowlow are the worst band ever.

# Jul 25, 2007 @ 11:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. No One writes:

Did Necro not know this tour was somewhat about METAL?

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 12:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. liquid_pyro9 writes:

pursuit_of_ vikings, that is a great call...anyway Necro and the people who run SOTU are f***ing idiots if they ever thought that Necro would get anything but boos, playing on a metal and hardcore festival type tour. I was at the SOTU in philly and if they were expecting any cheers whatsoever, they are definitely insane, thats all philly does is boo, we're f***ing brutal. and also he did call the crowd a bunch of emo fa**ots...and at that point i thought he might be killed...the only reason he got booed was because he was on stage in front of a bunch of metal and hardcore fans, rapping, we go to shows to see the music we like to listen to...not to listen to f***ing so-called 'death rap'...because some stupid f***ing wigger thinks he connects with because he has a lot of metal and hardcore icons appear on his records

f*** YOU NECRO!!!!! YOU DESERVED TO BE BOOED OFF THE STAGE, YOU f***ING p***y b****!!!!!

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 1:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. J.x writes:

I'm going to Sounds in Edmonton on Sat. Good thing he's not gonna play there, guaranteed it wouldn't have got any better for him! I was gonna go buy shirts when he was on anyway! ha!

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 1:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. Cynic writes:

Is there anything f***ing emo kids aren't ruining these days? Good on him for calling those posers out, f*** em.

This is a Metal tour? HAHA! Could have fooled me, more like a bunch of trendy Metalcore acts got together to pose as metalheads (with a few actal metal bands). What a joke, this is the state of metal today... wtf are Gwar doing on this?

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# Jul 26, 2007 @ 3:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Zero 54 writes:

I am so glad they didn't play at the minnesota show, i also f*ckin smoke this little hardcore scene kid hardcore dancing during amon amarth then met them after the show Amon Amarth is so f*cking great live

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Zero 54 writes:

When i comment i almost never diss bands but HeavyHeavyLowLow is one of the worst acts i believe ive every seen

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Diamond Oz writes:

I'm with Cynic on this one.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 6:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Kick Ass Duke writes:

Screw you "Bulletproof Scales". SOTU tour was awesome this year and screw Necro if he was getting "negative reaction". I have to agree with the logic of "Why would a hip-hop artist book onto a metal tour?" I mean, let's be honest, it's not like SOTU is a melting pot of different music. IT'S A METAL TOUR! It has been all metal from the beginning. Hell, GWAR was the headliner for Christ sake. If you think SOTU sucks maybe Family Values is more up your ally.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Gravedigger writes:

in this case 90% of the bands playing there shouldve been booed, all these bands suck

i dont consider myself closed-minded since i always hear the music first then make my decision, why would i want to like every band out there anyways if i dont like it i dont like it, simple, and simply said i dont like these bands

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 9:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. deathbringer writes:

Aw, come on, there are plenty enough good bands to make it a good tour. There are quite a number of metalcore bands as well but that doesn't make the tour "a trendy metalcore tour." Chimaira, Goatwhore, Gwar, Job For A Cowboy, See You Next Tuesday, Shadows Fall and Skeletonwitch are all pretty good heavy bands. And there are a number of quality metalcore bands as well.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 9:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. Jrizzle writes:

I'm with deathbringer. There were many good bands on this year's SOTU. It was a shame i missed it.

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# Jul 26, 2007 @ 10:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. Dacian420 writes:

YES! YES! Y ES! Saturday's show in Edmonton is looking better and better.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 10:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Kick Ass Duke writes:

I defy any person to get into a GWAR pit for 5 minutes and then say that they suck. People who say GWAR sucks have never seen the live show. Personally I think that the SOTU tour has been good from the inception. If I want to see a “rap” festival I’ll go see Rock the Bell (Which I will be at on Saturday)

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# Jul 26, 2007 @ 11:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. coldiem writes:

The only Necro I've ever heard was a song called "I Need Drugs" which featured him rapping over what sounded like a kid's song about needing some crack. If it is anything like what the rest of his music is like then what was he thinking going on this tour? Death rapper? That sounds pretty silly to me. But hey, I'll give it to him for trying.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 11:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Acid Rain writes:

Metalcore really isn't as terrible as it is made out to be. Yes, there are alot of metalcore acts that are terrible and yet there are some that are great. I like Lamb of God, Unearth, and Since the flood is pretty good as well. What I don't understand is why everyone has to make metalcore out to be the worst possible thing out there, when in reality there are many worse things. Good metalcore actually involves a style of complex drums which is probably the main reason I like it. If it doesn't have good drumming qualities in it then I don't really like it. At the same time though with complex drums there is also some really good guitar solos, its just the breakdowns that are hardcore where if it is a good band the breakdowns blend smoothly with the rest of the song.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 11:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. n1nt3nd0 writes:

Meh, I still consider Lamb of God being more of a Thrash/Post-Thrash/Groove Metal band. But, to each their own.

Anyway, rap is good by itself, but when you mix rap and metal it RARELY ever works out. I don't care for Necro either, you just can't really mix these two genres that well.

But if we're talking about just rap in general, Notorious B.I.G. truly is great. Unfortunately, most rap now a days on the radio and such is horrible.

Anyway, I never really thought that Necro was going to fit in that well, especially with bands like Amon Amarth and Job for a Cowboy. [laughs]

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 12:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. metalhead644 writes:

it would have been nice if he could have been recieved. NECRO has experience playing metal shows, as he opened for f***ing Sepultura and Biohazard when he was a little boy playing thrash guitar for christ' sake... give the guy some f***ing credit, even if you don't like his music... he's probably far more talented than any of you talking sh**...

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 12:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. deathbringer writes:

Lamb of God IS NOT METALCORE! I don't know why people say this - is it because they just heard of LOG coming up when the metalcore trend did as well? I've been listening to Lamb of God from their first album and didn't consider them metalcore then and haven't heard anything in any album that would make me reconsider since. And I actually like quite a lot of metalcore bands as well. (Sorry not ranting on you specifically Acid Rain)

I don't really consider Shadows Fall metalcore either, although they defintely had some metalcore influences in the early days and possibly a tiny bit now - mostly the shouted vocal style, but that doesn't make a band metalcore alone.

Metalcore has really turned into the trash heap category that many people will just label "trendy" bands they don't like or bands from a certain era. Just like nu-metal. Just like emo(core or no core). Most people can't be bothered to figure out what actually sets the music apart as those styles and those people are just jumping on a trend themselves...

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 12:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Acid Rain writes:

Talented or not that is not the point. The bottomline is that Necro wasn't welcomed by the fans at SOTU.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 12:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Acid Rain writes:

No Deathbringer I understand what your saying. And I revoke what I said. You are correct and I am wrong in actuality LOG isn't metalcore. I just tossed them in the mix with unearth and since the flood because people label them like that and I was using them to prove a point. I agree more with what n1nt3nd0. I can see them as post thrash/groove. That is pretty much what pantera is seen as and they are just another one of my favorite bands. So i apologize but still to my point not all metalcore bands are bad.

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42. Jrizzle writes:

Lamb of God is plain out metal or thrash to me. And metalcore is stuff like Killswitch Engage, Unearth, As I Lay Dying, etc. And Necro still sucks.

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# Jul 26, 2007 @ 12:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. BassJay writes:

I think part of the problem with the metal communtiy, is all the subgenres we create. The way I look at music is, if you like it, then who gives a rats testicles what genre it fits into. I will say, I agree with Necro's observation of all the little emo kids. I'm pretty tired of them calling themselves metal.

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44. megachang writes:

All EMO and NU-Metal sucks period. End of story. Synchronized movements, backpacks, karate kicks, bass players that think they are funny, etc. Tatts and black eyeliner do not make a metal band - verythging that is wrong with that scenen can be summed up in "Atreyu" and "My Chemical Romance". Throw in Fall Out Boy and every other sh**ty EMO/Nu-metal p***y band.

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45. Diamond Oz writes:

I Need Drugs definitely wouldn't prove his metal cred (the song anyway) but bear in mind the beat is ripped from LL Cool Js I Need Love. That was adressed to Coldiem by the way.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 1:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. deathbringer writes:

Thanks for proving my point megachang. Fall Out Boy and MCR have nothing to do with emo. To metalheads, they are whiney, but that does not make them emo any more than shouting makes a band hardcore.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 2:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. necrofuckingsucks writes:

thank god for him being thrown off this tour and i hope all the other sh**ty a$$ bands on this tour don't last through it(heavyheavylowlow,2cents,thisishell,)

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 2:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. Acid Rain writes:

I happen to like 2cents they did a good job on tour with static-x. The drummer is a complete nut

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49. Edhead writes:

What are they like?

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Gotta say this...

Yes, his lyrics are of Death Metal influence, BUT! The fact is, Death Rap's only ties to Metal are its lyrical content. Yes, He is good at what he does, however when people come to a METAL SHOW, they expect more than just lyrics. So yes, I understand Necro's vision here, but I also understand the crowd's view. The crowd came for Metal, not rap.

Now, for those of you here posting against Rap. Yes, I do understand how you feel about it and why you do. But when someone listens to Underground Rap, its a totally different story. Here's the best way I can put it to you. As a metalhead, (and I mean a TRVE Metalhead), when someone says the music is 'all just screaming', or '...bands like Korn and Linkin Park', you feel a need to explain to people that NO, Metal isn't just screaming, and NO Korn and Linkin Park AREN'T METAL. Well as a metalhead, I love the trve metal, I'll correct idiots who say the retarded stereotypical comments about Metal. But I also like Rap, and yes, MAINSTREAM RAP is the sh** you hear on MTV and BET that involves 'studio gangsters' rapping about money, 'b****es and hoes', and drug use. And just like the idiots who think Metal is just noise and that Metal includes Nu Metal bands, the people who think rap is all what you see and hear on mainstream television, YOU MUST GAIN BETTER UNDERSTANDING RATHER THAN MAKE THE ASSUMPTION!

Now yes, rap may not be your style, but trust me when I say this, Underground Rappers will at least earn your respect if you don't like the music. Mainstream rap as of now, is complete sh**! Everyone in the mainstream is going thru the bling trend that MTV and those sh** music channels portray, making my peoples look ignorant and stupid. I don't associate with those who like the sh** (and I MEAN sh**) that is on mainstream music stations. BUT the UNDERGROUND RAP scene, like the UNDERGROUND METAL scene have alot in common. Both scenes are very strict to their styles, and don't deviate from what is the work of an artist. Both scenes look down upon sellouts (like those in MTV), and both scenes gain more respect among the trve supporters of the work. And on occasion, both scenes are equally deadly.

Now, great [living] rappers in the underground who if you don't like, you should at least respect:

Immortal Technique (especially this one)
Non Phixion
Tech N9ne

Necro could be added to the list, but honestly, he's not too serious about his work.

Immortal Technique is someone you MUST RESPECT. His lyrics are always deep, and provoke thougts on serious issues.

I may have gone off on a tangent here, but I hope you get the point...Just like you hate when people are ignorant about OUR MUSIC, you must also remember not to be ignorant with other people's music.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Jrizzle writes:

Yea Immortal Technique is a great rapper. Listen to Dance With the Devil if you dont believe me. Its a rap masterpiece

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# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. cavETID writes:

Necro came out on stage yelling about how everyone there was an emo and should go learn about metal, WHILE he was on a metal tour...rapping? Does that make sense to anyone? Yea there probably were a lot of sh*thead emos there dancing around to heavyheavylowlow, but there were a lot of people that might have actually given him some sort of a chance if he wouldn't have acted like that. However, he was still way out of place. He singled people out too, pointing and saying f****** emo fa**ot f*** your mother get the f*** out YOU AREN'T METAL...once again he is saying this WHILE HE IS RAPPING to a track with some distorted guitar riffs. Not the greatest way to get the crowd on your side. I hate emos as much as the rest of the world but he signed up for this tour and that's not how you treat the people you are trying to sell your music to.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Acid Rain writes:

edhead - 2 cents are closer to a hard rock group than to metal, but there live shows are pretty good. The drummer is also the lead singer and he is totally nuts. before his first song when he was doing soundchecks he was just being a nut. Saying things like "check check gonnorhea, syphillis, check, check" and just being an ass. and then when his first song started he spit a lugey in the air caught and slammed it against his face. He looked like an escaped mental person with his eyes all wide open lookin like they were gonna pop out haha. But he captivated the audience so 2 cents set was pretty good and the music had a groove you could move to so it was nice.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 4:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. Edhead writes:

Dude shut the f*** up, just write an essay about how we're ignorant about music?WTF btw Tech N9ns really f***in suck, I agree with you that Immortal Technique deserves some respect but tech 9 are a complete f***in discrace to music, like why anybody would want to hear n***** shouted at them 300 times in one song, I've got no f***in clue. RAP IS sh**

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55. deathbringer writes:

2cents does have a great groove and some great screaming parts as well as the awesome "A Song For Darrell Abbott."

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56. Acid Rain writes:

Thats such a great tribute song to Dime

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57. thor hath risen writes:

to necro: read some books from my friend anton lavey, make some music, go back to sotu.

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58. warlockzero writes:

To post 50 and 51, immortal technique is the sh**. Lyrically hes brilliant and his beats are different. He raps about a lot of political stuff and not the same money, hoe, bling bling bullsh** that other rappers rap about. mainstream rap sucks. My opinion about rap and hiphop is that its not the genre that sucks, but the people who make the music that suck. I think jay z who is probably the biggest rapper in rap sucks. His lyrics make no sense and how many words came u ryme with nigga. Most of his songs sound the same to me and they have no substance. Thats the problem with rap. I'm going to rock the bells this saturday mostly for rage but i can't wait to see immortal technique and public enemy and cypress hill. Rap needs to get back to sh** thats important in society. Oh to anyone that knocks me, I'm a die hard fan of meatl and hard rock so if anyone wants to bad mouth me cause i know to much about rap on a metal site, then that just means im more open minded then u. I listen to metal but i listen to other stuff as well.

# Jul 26, 2007 @ 5:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Necro FTL writes:

Uh yeah.. I honestly can say I listen to just about everything.. (..far from close minded.)

..these guys were honestly a joke on stage. They were basically ICP minus the face paint.. the lyrics were not in any way unique.

In between every song the only thing they would do is call the entire audience "Emo f@gs" or "Stupid @$$ emo f@gs."

..and to hear them say "Oh, you guys obviously don't know real metal." to a ton of METAL fans was just dumb on their part.

The guy did more name dropping than anything else.

Was very happy to see this article.

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60. brandedcfh420 writes:

HEY NECRO, MAYBE IF YOU WERE A METAL ACT AND NOT ADDING RAP IN IT MAYBE THE CROWDS WOULD HAVE BEEN COOLER.....I HAVE NOT HEARD YOUR MUSIC, AND AFTER READING THIS I WILL NOT LOOK FOR IT....ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO BE ALL GANGSTA IN A METAL CROWD...GOOD LUCK YOU DUMB A$$ JACK-OFF....AND A BIG FUK YOU BACK B1TCH....HOPE YOU HAVE A CRIPPLING ACCIDENT AND CANT TOUR EVER AGAIN..OR BETTER YET, GO AND TRY TO APPEASE THE DUMB A$$ WIGGER KIDS THAT MAYBE LIKE YOUR MUSIC..CAUSE APPARENTLY, THOSE WHO ALREADY SAW YOU THINK YOU SUCK....BESIDES, THE ONLY RAP-METAL MUSICIANS OUT THERE THAT ACTUALLY CAN MAKE IT WORTH LISTENING TO IS RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE....GIVE UP NOW U TURD...

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61. Red_Chord writes:

I don't like rap and he sure didn't fit there. They try that a few years back. I went to a metal show but the first act was a rap band called Kardinal Offishal or something like that. The whole crowd just sat on the floor and turned their backs on them. They had to nerve to ask us if we were ready to rock...where's the rock in there you clown. so they did their act and kept asking...what's wrong ? You guys don't wanna rock ? Er....you don't get it do you ? Anyways, has soon as they were done, the whole crowd got on their feet and cheered..that must have been humiliating

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62. Terminator writes:

^-- that's funny

it almost sounds as if necro was just using the "f*** all emos" cry as a way to gain some instant "true metal credibility".

ironically, i think he sounds like one of the posers hes crusading against.

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# Jul 26, 2007 @ 8:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. Likes2Spooge writes:

I was very upset to hear that Necro wasn't playing. I'm a big fan. I love rap music and I love heavy metal music. And I hate emo kids.

Necro deserved to be on this card more than scree-emo bands. he is f***ing hardcore. He's a white jew from the ghetto. he's so far below ground he's in China.

If you don't like his metal rap, you can go slit your wrists.
For you people who wrote "Necro can't even Rap", who the hell do you like? Obvo not rap. I listen to it all the time so don't give me "he sucks". I also listen to metal all the time. Stop having such closed minds.

And I quote: "because some stupid f***ing wigger thinks he connects with because he has a lot of metal and hardcore icons appear on his records"

having metal and hardcore icons on your records does mean you're awesome. They're icons, stupid.

You f***ers made him quit the tour a day before I got to see him in Calgary. I won't boo your sh**ty band off the stage because I couldn't make out one growl-filled song from the next. I'll just bang my head like a goodboy or go to the beer gardens. f*** YOU whoever is happy nECRO'S OFF THE TOUR!

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64. Loves2Spooge writes:

actually I hope this whole post is a joke because I can't find anything about it on his myspace

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65. Bulletproof Scales writes:

" Kick a$$ Duke", SOTU is horrid. Every year it gets even more pitiful than the last.

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66. Cynic writes:

Heavy doesn't automatically mean good, GWAR, Skeletonwitch, Goatwhore, Cellador are the only metal bands I can see from that list (someone mentioned Amon Amarth are also on this tour though?).

I'm listening to a Shadows Fall track right now and picking up on these things. (The song is called Redemption)
- Occasional minor third harmonized guitar and other MDM influences
- Emotional clean singing in the chorus, semi-harsh shouts in the verses
- Groove/breakdown verses (and riffs overall really)
- Verse/chorus/verse set out
- Noticible stop/start (ie contemorary) riffs under the solo
- Metal like riffs

Now without even hearing the song that list screams metalcore. Whatever it was it certainly wasn't metal as I know metal.

As far as LOG, I'm pretty on the fence. Groove metal (a genre that by whatever general definition is a big part of metalcore anyway) is a fine label for them by me, but they're an exeption to the rule and normally I'd throw other bands in the metalcore bin.

@Acid Reign - I make out metalcore to be the worst thing possible because I think that's what I thinkk it is is. A generic watered down version of metal. I've yet to hear a metalcore band play interesting drum patterns (or at least as interesting as drummers like Hoglan, Reinhart, Mournier etc) that weren't just complex for the sake of complexity and actually fit in with the music.

@BassJay - Genres are without a doubt one of the most important part of any musical or fan culture. People only complain about labels when their fave band gets stuck with one with negative connotations.

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67. Dacian420 writes:

"I was very upset to hear that Necro wasn't playing. I'm a big fan. I love rap music and I love heavy metal music. And I hate emo kids."

I hate emo kids too. But the fact of the matter is, on a tour like this, when even the emo kids (normally the bottom of the social totem pole) won't give you any respect, your time in the tour is pretty much over. The fact that everyone else is too busy buying merch to even bother being there doesn't mean that it's only the emo kids that hate your guts.

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68. the antihippy writes:

^^ you really should listen to converge. that's probably the only band nowadays which truly fit the metalcore label. plus botch and integrity.

i still can't understand why sotu have a rapper on the bill though.

and hip hop have some great artist.

np: deathspell omega- the shrine of mad laughter.

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69. the antihippy writes:

last post was to cynic.

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70. Diamond Oz writes:

Yeah he announced he was leaving through a Myspace bulletin so there isn't any actual info on his myspace but you'll notice in the tour section all the SOTU have been taken out.

# Jul 27, 2007 @ 5:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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71. Jrizzle writes:

Cynic, Amon Amarth are on the tour if you werent sure, i checked the poster.

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72. Jrizzle writes:

And if you want a technical metalcore band that will blow your mind, listen to Between the Buried and Me they have talent

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73. n1nt3nd0 writes:

Oh jeeze,
Between the Buried and Me has insanely whacked music.

I forgot about them. x_x
Good stuff, nonetheless. Very good stuff.

[laughs]
To the one post above, I actually like a song by Tech N9ne called The Beast.

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74. SexBloodandMetal writes:

Edhead, if you actually read what I said, I didn't say any particular group was ignorant of music, but one must gain understanding before making the assumption...

Jackoff

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75. RedrumSyndrum writes:

about time... those bastards shouldn't have been on the tour... i'm happy that people booed them to the max, including me when i saw their sorry asses rap...

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76. R.J. writes:

Yeah I agree..I didn't really get into Necro's music...just a bunch of nonsense...if it was more METAL than Crap than maybe..just maybe he would have had a chance.

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77. Kashmirabby writes:

OMG I saw two SOTU shows and Necro wasn't being booed by EMO kids at all. It was the whole fricken audience! I was absolutely horrified because I'm not one to boo anyone, I know how hard everyone works and even if it's not my thing I'm cool with it. Half of the Necro set was spent screaming obscenities back at the audience. I'm sure even the Necro fans were disappointed. I was kind of rooting for him a little because I could see it wasn't going to be a hit on this tour but he p***ed me off by all of the audience criticisms. I would have thought more of him if he would have just finished the set and left it at that. Other acts on the tour have had some trouble in a few cities and THEY don't act like that. It was completely ridiculous.

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78. frank lalaleo writes:

Necro wasnt given hostility because they are hip hop but because their sound was off key and metal heads paid to see metal! They are nothing compared to real rappers oout there anyways, and their gimmicks on stage are boring and played! It was a bunch of fools jumping around onstage!

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79. thor hath risen writes:

ive never heard any songs by necro, so can someone tell me who he sounds like before i make my accusations?

# Jul 27, 2007 @ 10:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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80. RememberMetal? writes:

This entire fiasco is square peg and round hole.

I don't care how much love Necro has for metal, he's fighting an uphill battle thats more severe than Wicked Wisdom's situation.
You simply can not win over fans with a preconceived hate for rap/hip just because you package it as "Inspired by Metal" and quote Metallica...."Taste me you will see"...Jesus....

Would it make sense to line up an all thug-rap tour and then throw Napalm Death in the middle of the bill. Of course not....Though that scenario would be hilarious, it would also be a disaster.

I KNOW!!!!

Why not resurrect Johnny Cash?!?!

He can fill Necro's spot! Just dust him off and pluck out the mushrooms! He set the whole wear black and speak of death standard!! Surely when he wrote "Ring of Fire" he was talking about circle pits.

Hell has a special place for me. I know.

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81. Edhead writes:

Necro sounds like sh**, his lyrics are tasteless and stupid and he claims to draw a lot of influence from metal which is just bullsh**, hip hop sucks

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82. suck shit writes:

Hell has a special place for me. I know.

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83. fuck yous all tossers writes:

this is for yall 00000000000000000000000

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84. thor hath risen writes:

oh, thank you edhead.

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85. thor hath risen writes:

i know who the other three are, but when he's stating the creator's of metal, who is piggy and sob?

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86. Jrizzle writes:

Piggy was the guitarist of Voivod and SOB i believe was the guy from SOB who committed suicide

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87. thor hath risen writes:

thanks


np-mind riot-soundgarden

# Jul 28, 2007 @ 5:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. Diamond Oz writes:

Gotta love Voivod!

Now playing: Necro- Horny Honeys (this one definitely ain't metal!)

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89. loves2spooge writes:

Well it is one day after SOTU. My leather wallet got ruined due to GWAR blood, Amon Amarth kicked ass, and my chest has bruise across it about the height of the guard rail. All in All a good concert, though I can see what Necro meant by saying "f*** you emos"

he must have got on stage earlier than Amon A, because I have never seen so many homosexual, sexually active 15 year old boys wearing girls jeans in one place in my life. The Acacia Strain sucks, why r their shirts so awesome? the Devil Wears Prada is maybe the worst scree-mo band I've heard. And I haven't heard many but they take the cake.

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90. Zero 54 writes:

I was at the St. Paul show on the 7-24 I hated HeavyHeavyLowLow and the Number 12 Looks Like You so damn much f*ck that Screamo and Hardcore Punk sh*it, I did enjoy Acacia Strain and Goatwhore at least they were metal.

Amon Amarth was amazing the only played 5 songs though i want more at least i got to meet them. Shadows Fall always great shows as well, they are a great band to mosh to.

Gwar was so great with the Virginia Tech guy, Jewsifier, Dead Puppy, The Trex, Lordi's Head on a staff and his 3 foot d*** that p***ed on me.

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91. old skool thrash writes:

i dont know nothing about this guy, but who ever mentions chuck's name and chants it, deserves my respect. people there obviously dont know the f***ing roots of metal, what a shame!! a dude who mixes hip-hop with death metal knows more then wanna be so called fa**ot brains that were there!!!.
Hail true f***ing metall~

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92. Acid Rain writes:

When you speak of the roots of metal "Old Skool Thrash" and how people don't know about it I sincerely hope you don't think that Hiphop had an influence on metal. Because as far as I am concerned I don't consider Nu-metal rap bands like Limp Bizkit and Korn to be the representation of metal. Maybe the reperesentation of mainstream that people want you to think is metal. When I look at rap/hiphop and then look at Heavy Metal I see them on opposite sides of the spectrum. Trying to mix them as intrigueing as it sounds really just turns up to be a failure.

# Jul 29, 2007 @ 11:10 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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93. Aaron writes:

Necro rules, you fa**ots.
I guess you don't understand Necro; he used to be heavy metal (rapper), and then he got a heavy hip-hop sound...but you were too busy? Cutting your wrists? Listening to Atreyu?
f*** off.

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94. thor hath risen writes:

sorry to be so inquisitive, but does anybody know why "piggy" was called piggy?

np: devilution-high on fire

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95. Slim writes:

Look, I am almost 40 years old and I have listened to metal, hardcore, and rap all my life. I saw necro in Winston-Salem, and he sucked, period. I did not boo or curse him; I just went and sat my fat a$$ down while he stood on stage and ranted and raved like a complete jackass. I will be at the Loisville SOTU, and I am glad he won't. Another thing, I wish people would quit trying to pigeonhole bands into subgenres and just judge them on their merits. Cynic (post 66) claims metalcore acts don't have interesting drum patterns, then proceeds to drop Gene Hoglan's name as a "real" drummer. Buddy, I saw Unearth in Atlanta on the Invaluable Darkness tour and guess whose fat a$$ was behind the skins. GENE HOGLAN!!! I love Hoglan and he has some great feet, but his hands didn't have s**t on Mike Justian (the dude Gene was replacing). Some of you folks ought to show a bit more respect for these players and quit whining so much.

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96. Cynic writes:

Yeah there was a thread about Hoglan in which I was complaining about his wasted talent awhile ago. What I meant to say that he did some interesting work with Death on ITP. I won't pretend to know anything technical about drums other than what I hear, I'm a guitarist. But I do know about interesting songwriting and I just don't feel metalcore has it. But that's just a subjective thing, you might listen to Watchtower and think it's random patterns...

Now Playing: Rigor Mortis - "Sog"

# Jul 30, 2007 @ 8:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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97. cliff writes:

i was at the house of blues for the concert and negro pulled out a turn table so im like yea this is goin to suck but it suck beyond the point of listening. i got kick out by these fags and no many emo or hardcore kids wear there necro was callin out most of the true metal heads and they called them fags flipped them off and sh** like that. but in all they really just sucked

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98. thor_hath_risen writes:

well, you can't honestly say your surprised now can you? nobody expected him to be good, and honestly i'm glad he sucks, the metal world needs somebody to pick on.

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99. DeathMetalBeaner650 writes:

Man, f*** that. I may not be that big a fan of Necro, but I wouldn't boo HIM off the stage. I'm saving that for The Number Twelve Looks Like You or something else just as gay as them. It's no surprise a bunch of idiot trendy emo scene/hardcore tards booed him off, they don't know what real music is. Especially not even having the decency to respect the rest in peace calls to Dime and Cliff. They need to be put to death for that.

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100. FUCK YOU I'M THROUGH writes:

f*** YOU I'M THROUGH
I WANT NOTHING MORE FROM YOU
MY SANITY IS WEARING THIN
IRATE, I HATE
YOU DETERMINED YOUR OWN FATE
NOW EVERYTHING IS CAVING IN

f*** YOUR POWER TRIP AND
f*** YOUR ATTITUDE AND
f*** YOUR BLOATED EGO TOO
f*** YOUR HISTORY, YOUR TRAGEDY, YOUR MISERY
BUT MOST OF ALL.......f*** YOU!

f*** THIS, ALL OF THIS
b**** AND MOAN AND BLEED AND PISS
SECONDS AWAY FROM GOIN' DOWN
GO AHEAD AND PUSH ME
YOUR FAKERY, YOUR BUTCHERY
IS NOTHING COMPARED TO MY HATE FOR YOU

f*** YOUR APATHY AND
f*** YOUR EMPATHY AND
f*** YOUR NIHILISM, TOO
f*** YOUR BITTER PILLS, TAKE EM ALL, YOU
NEVER WILL
BUT MOST OF ALL.......f*** YOU!

NOTHING CHANGES, NOTHING FAZES, NOTHING
STAYS THE SAME

f*** YOUR POWER TRIP AND
f*** YOUR ATTITUDE AND
f*** YOUR BLOATED EGO TOO
f*** YOUR HISTORY, YOUR TRAGEDY, YOUR MISERY
BUT MOST OF ALL....... MOTHERf***ER f*** YOU!

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101. dacian420 writes:

LOL @ Necro the liar and his retard fanbois (probably him using sockpuppets). All the bands loved you? Gwar made you one of their victims and killed you at their Edmonton show. Gave you a giant crack rock followed by a huge hypodermic needle... Things just got worse from there.

No, Necro sucks, rap sucks, and emos usually suck too, but it appears they served a purpose in this case. Next time smoke less crack before you decide whether or not to take your rap routine on a metal tour.

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102. Cathy writes:

Putting Necro on this bill was a purposeful effort to "diversify" the line up according to Jewish/multicultural mores. MTV/CNN/FOX/ETC all tell us that racial diversity is great in spite of the empirically proven and categorical fact that white people are butchered,raped, robbed, murdered, attacked and abused by blacks everyday in this country and abroad. This is not due to socio-economic status or fiduciary questions in general but rather intrinsic and innate racial differences. Races are very different, we should be allowed to have our own societies, not forced to integrate as the US undeniably is. That is not freedom. But now the Jewish/Egalitarian effort to brainwash whites into thinking that diversity is "cool" and sh**bags like Necro are "hip" has backfired profoundly. NECRO almost had his a$$ handed to him. I was at the NY show , it was not "emo-kids" that were going to beat his a$$ down, it was regular Metal fans. Enough of this hyped up, pampered rap stuff. Enough MTV shoving this down white kids throats. Enough with Jewish Metal "stars" like Scott Ian from Anthrax trying to push metal and rap to some sort of synthesis. See it for what it is: People (leftists) , usually led by Jews and white race traitors, with an agenda to indoctrinate white youth into the "diversity"/Multicultural dogma. If you disagree you are a "hater" or a "neo-Nazi" they will tell you. You could be the smartest and the kindest person i the world but because you disagree with the multi-racial society they will call you "intolerant" and "nazi".
Well, it looks like people are starting to get sick of this sh**. NECRO, in spite of his hyperbolic press statements, almost got his ass-kicked on several nights. Bands like Napalm Death, Caliban and misery Index ought to take note of the fact that white kids are no longer buying into the "blame whitey" and "we are all one race" bullsh**.
It seems like people are turning off the Jew-TV/MTV (MTV is owned by the Jew Sumner Redstone) and starting to think for themselves. Things are getting interesting!

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103. SexBloodandMetal writes:

to 'Cathy'

Look here you stupid and arrogant fool, I see your point about how some people take things too far, but honestly, you trying to put it on the extremist opposite end makes you no better

Stop blaming things on Jews, and stop trying to make one race (whites) look like the victims of another race (blacks, etc.). No one is a victim of anyone, but if you like to look up history, blacks were the victimized people in the past (Slavery), and Jews were the victimized race (Holocaust). Now yes, people are f***ed in general, doesn't matter what color you are, but you can't put more on one race rather than another...And even if it was the case (which its DEFINITELY NOT), if Blacks and Jews were really more f***ed up than whites at this point, the blame would still go back to white people for enslaving blacks for 400 years and gassing 6 million Jews. And lets not even get started on the Native Americans...

Yes affirmative action is stupid, because its got potential to be just as bad as segregation, but what society should realize that to solve the problems of hatred and discrimination, you don't forcefeed diversity, you must learn to teach better values to people so they learn not to discriminate when they do encounter diversity, they should treat diversity like its nothing, rather than treat it like it must be done or else you're a racist or something...

And another thing, they should'nt call this era a time of tolerance, tolerance is the wrong word for it, you tolerate a bratty child in a store when they don't shut the f*** up. You don't tolerate someone because they're different from you, you ACCEPT that they are different from you, and treat them as an equal, as they should be treated since they are.

Now back to you Cathy, you're speaking a good game against the things that you feel are f***ed about society, but you're seriously looking at the wrong things to point a finger at. Don't blame entire races of people, because that makes you just as bad as those who say 'blame whitey'.

The key is, to realize that people are both different as well as the same. Must accept that not just as white to black, but as person to person, people in general are different, but no one started a faction or groups speaking against those who happen to like chocolate ice cream or something stupid, and you must realize that speaking against a certain people just because they're a certain race is just as retarded as speaking against people for liking a different flavor of ice cream...

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104. thor_hath_risen writes:

here come the preachers...

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105. Cynic writes:

Nazi metalheads, Nazi metalheads, Nazi metalheads - f*** off!

Now Playing: Death - "Spiritual Healing"

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106. Diamond Oz writes:

To change the topic a bit, I found some tracks from Necro and Ill Bill's old metal band today. It's surprisingly good! Like old school Kreator sorta stuff. They have a myspace and stuff I strongly advise checking it out. The band was called Injustice.

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107. thor_hath_risen writes:

i don't trust it..

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108. charmedonexthree writes:

Necro is awlful....when I heard that song on the Sounds from the underground cd, i was like, HUH? doesn't belong...

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109. thor_hath_risen writes:

i think we've already established that.

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110. stan writes:

death rap, can f***ing kiss my ass
theres no way u can combine such a monkey music with sumthing as precise as death metal

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111. RememberMetal? writes:

Cathy
Necro never belonged on Sotu or any other "metal" tour. It has nothing to do with race/culture. A white country, polka or punk musician would have faired just as poorly.

Yet there have been so many white fans of Blues Jazz and Hip-hop. Music pioneered primarily by African Americans.

How odd....

I've made my point already but I'm going to rub some salt in the wound.

Every day geneticists prove that the more our races mix the more we dull the edges of race based medical problems...Though inbred Brit royals and purebred dogs clued us in on that ages ago...If you loath diversity you're in the wrong country -- as we currently have an African American Secretary of State and we may one day have an African American president.

I love that people like you have so much resentment for what America will continue to become.
I look forward to being told that I'm a traitorous, brainwashed Irish-German-Cheyenne-Swedish subhuman.
Should you need a list (I loath lists) of successful non-wasp metal and rock musicians, I'm sure I can conjure many names in short order....I should have just echoed Cynic...

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112. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

I have been a metalhead and a rap fan for a long time and some of these statements I am seeing here are simply inane. Most of you people saying this ludicrous crap are pigeonholing YOUR own likes and dislikes entirely. You act like someone who likes rap can't like metal or vice versa. Someone mentioned earlier how Necro was like ICP without the facepaint. It's kind of funny you say something like that since I have seen ICP several times. My point here is that they are rap and several times they've had METAL acts share the same stage and were very well received as were the RAP acts that shared the same stage. I guess ignorance truly is bliss when it comes to people building walls up around themselves and not letting anything else in. Closemindedness is a major problem we have in this country and not just with music but with any differences in general. Nobody wants to accept or respect someone just because they're idea or vision may differ from his or her own. And it's ridiculous - very ridiculous when it takes musical differences to harbor such idiotic behavior in people. And not to say Necro was right by calling the audience this or that but I'm pretty sure without even having been at the show that the audience probably initiated such an attitude from Necro. The show wasn't over with Necro so they could have sat patiently for the next act without getting rude. And these slurs I read from some of these people on here are just flat-out absurd as well. You don't like a white dude rapping so you just dismiss him as a wi**er. That's not just obscene toward him but that's a partial racial slur to blacks as well. Some people need to just wake up and open their minds. Sometimes the best thing to do if you don't like something is just deal with it. Take it just for the moment because like anything in this world, nothing lasts forever.

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113. jamie writes:

well i was at sounds of the underground too in houston and i thought necro was the worst band there (BY FAR). when they came out and played the first song i actually thought they were joking! DEATH RAP?! let me tell you, i am a TRUE metal fan, i love most genres of metal and i go to metal shows frequently but never have i seen or heard of a worst band than them, they should be ashamed of what they are trying to represent in relation to metal. i do agree they sounded like an ICP without face paint and ICP sucks. im not an emo kid? there were guys in their 30's even booing them and i think they would know more about "metal history". the entire time i had my middle finger up and i didnt see one person that liked them. they were more of a comedy act than anything else in my opinion. i flicked the main guy off when he came over to my side of the stage and he grabbed his balls and mouthed "suck my d***". HILARIOUS, i thought! thier idea was not only stupid to play with true metal bands but foolish! good for you that u played your whole set, the most upsetting part was when i couldnt even enjoy my beer hearing you guys play so i lost it when i threw it at you! i dont know what ignorant people like necro but i dont even know why you guys made it at all or continue to make music at all. you want to know what? i hate little emo kids too at metal shows because all they do is p***y dance while i go in the mosh pit, however, 95% of the crowd at sounds of the underground werent emo, so apparently, EVERYONE THOUGHT THEY SUCKED!

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114. jamie writes:

hey jrizzle, i like the same bands you like, do u happen to be a single guy in texas?

# Aug 3, 2007 @ 5:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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115. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

to Jamie Ok. I respect your opinion 100% but I am in my 30's and I love metal. Loved it since I was eight years old. From bands such as Black Sabbath to Judas Priest and Iron Maiden at that age. Then got into heavier stuff such as Slayer, Celtic Frost, Mercyful Fate, Venom and the list goes on and on. But on the whole other side of that I liked rap music as well. Not as much as metal but there were a couple that did tend to catch my ear. Mainly the Beastie Boys. And with that said - at that time they had connections to metal; namely Slayer. Kerry King played guitar in a couple Beastie songs. And when the Beasties were still punk they had even done some shows with Venom. Now that s**t was over 20 years ago on both the aforementioned. Brooklyn white boys rapping who get (got) lots of respect in the rap community and metal community as well. Maybe not so much the metal community today as back then but respect nonetheless. Especially back then when white rappers were damn near nonexistant until the heyday of Vanilla Ice and later white rappers. But as for Vanilla Ice and others shortly thereafter, I gotta say they sucked. But ICP and Necro among a few others nowadays, if not just in my opinion, definitely deserve some amount of respect, metal or not. They have respect for "true" metal and not this emo crap. Something can be said for that. And I guess I'm saying it now. And even with all that said, metal will always be on top of my musical world. It has and always will be number one to me. On my playlist right now ------------- Death "Sacrificial"!!!!!!! I despise sacrificial C**T

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116. Diamond Oz writes:

Good to see someone else who likes his Beastie Boys!

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117. Jrizzle writes:

haha no im a single guy in southern Florida

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118. thor_hath_risen writes:

i don't have a problem with necro being rap, but it bugs me that tries to pass off as some type of metal. if he just came out and said he's rap i don't think anyone would have a problem with him, unless they just hate rap.

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119. deee deee writes:

good. f*** them, they where f***ing horrible. i am glad they left.

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120. SlayerRulz writes:

You know, at first I was appalled that anyone who likes metal would give the cheapest form of music: rap, any credence whatsoever, but I remember listening to NWA. Of course back then, rap told stories and some of it was unique. Nowadays, it's all "yo yo yo look at me keep yo eyes on me I got the bling bling yo yo and I stole the music I'm rapping over." Just look at what this "Necro" says in his press release. He makes a point several times to let you know he was giving it back as much as he was taking and the bands loved him and SOMEONE was gonna get hurt but of course it wasn't gonna be him cause he has his image to maintain. It’s typical rap speak: all about the rapper and all about style over substance which is the exact opposite of metal music. And no one was booing him but emo kids? Emo kids don't move at metal shows or they get their asses kicked. He’s typical rapper has to be “cooler-than-you” and it’s all bullsh it just like all rap from the last 20 years. Total fuc king poser. Amon Amarth prolly scared his little b**** a$$ shi tless and he had no choice but to leave. FUC K RAP!

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121. a-money writes:

yea i was at the show in chicago. i felt kind of bad for him cuz he spent more time defending himself from flying objects than actually performing. Then i remembered that he is a rapper who signed up for a metal tour(?). He tried to start a chant "Ne-cro, ne-cro" me and my friends started the response "f*** you, f*** you" it was awesome and hilarious.

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122. thor_hath_risen writes:

amon amarth would scare any rapper sh**less.

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123. brandedcfh420 writes:

FUK WIGGERS, FUK WIGGER MUSIC, AND FUK ANY1 WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE TO SHOW ANY KIND OF SUPPORT FOR SUCKY A$$ WIGGER MUSIC.....this is a metal community, not wiggerville...cathy, i agree with you on most of what you said...anytime metal and rap get thrown in the same mix, trouble always follows.....

the only ones to have pulled it off with respectable talent are:
the beastie boys
rage against the machine

there are no others who deserve the respect that the b-boys or ratm deserve...the ones who try only prove that they are just wigger wankstas!!!!.......

# Aug 5, 2007 @ 11:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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124. Frank - Necro For Life writes:

Okay, I've been true to hip hop for almost half of my life. It's the best sh** out there in my opinion, but i still listen to most other things that are real and don't limit myself just to it.
I went through a stage of listening to metal- black metal, death metal, metalcore, whatever other subgenres you want to throw in there. Don't get me wrong, I love a brutal metal song every now and then, but I left that scene pretty quickly- because the people are soo f***ing closed minded. Like the majority of you c***s that have replied to Necro's post.
It's unfair that you immediately dismiss Death-Rap as gay or stupid because it has the word "rap" in it. (mainstream rap has given real rap/hip hop a bad name) Death Rap is f***ing RAW. You obviously don't have to enjoy EVERY type of genre of music that is out there, but when something different pops up at your favorite gig, don't f***ing boo and hate on it. Leave, keep your negativity to yourself, or beat someone up or cut up a pig or something.
Necro is f***ing insane, literally. As with many other underground hip hop artists like Cage and Immortal Technique. They are more f***ed up and heavy than alot of metalheads will ever be. So don't call them p***ies.
This world is unbalanced and out of proportion. Closed-minded people like you are what will fuel the collapse of good people. Get out of your f***ing cubicles


It's sad that Necro had to pull out of the tour, because he is offering something that is truly Badass. Respect everything, or respect nothing.

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125. brandedcfh420 writes:

yo frank, fuk this pu$$y a$$ wigger sh1t...ok, we, as metal fans, will say this till the day we die...ok....rap and hip hop sux ball$, and will till the end of time..ok...deal with it you pansy a$$ wanksta wigger......

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126. Diamond Oz writes:

I'm a metal fan first but I and many other metal fans will tell you that there's some absolutely fantastic rap and hip hop out there. Some of it sucks of course but thats the same with any genre including metal and rock.

Now playing: Beastie Boys- Paul Revere

# Aug 6, 2007 @ 8:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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127. SmokeyJ writes:

You can't get upset and pissy because metal heads didn't accept your "death" rap, they're "METAL HEADS" not rap fans. You should have anticipated this kind of response. As for emo kids, WTF are they doing there any way?

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128. blast writes:

well still "metal fans" shouldnt be so close minded. i listen to death metal myself but there are some good underground rap artists out there (i.e. immortal technique) that u guys should respect . As for emo kids go slit your wrists and listen to your fallout boy crap.

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129. Acid Rain writes:

Bottom-line is people like what they like. Some people can't stand the rap genre whether it be close-minded or not. I don't like rap pure and simple not because of mainstream or underground, I just don't like it because I need something thats more than just vocals. Rap to me is poetry with sounds and screams and chants in the background so it doesn't do it for me. If you like it more power to ya, but don't be tellin people who they should and shouldn't respect. Thats their decision and nobody else's.

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130. brandedcfh420 writes:

^^^^^ VERY EXCELLENT POST ACID RAIN ^^^^^^^......

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131. Peloz writes:

NECRO SUCK'SS

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132. SexyMetalChick19 writes:

1st things 1st - Emos r fags! Hip hop displays no talent & it doesn't appeal to 95% of rockers. I went to SOTUG & I didn't give a sh** that Necro wasn't there. Rap doesn't belong in SOTUG. It was stupid for Necro 2 even b included in that lineup. They should have known he was just gonna get sh** from the crowd. He may be a good rapper, but not to a metal crowd.

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133. Cathy writes:

In this society everywhere you turn the media is imposing multiracialism upon people. Commercials, music, poetry, painting, etc. It's an agenda. Necro is reflective of this purposeful trend. Why include a "death rapper" on a metal bill? To force the concept of racial diversity and multiculturalism upon white youth. That is the epicenter and derivation of their reasoning. If you are sick of black criminals being thrown in your face on TV then you are a "hater". If you cite empirical evidence that categorically proves the inanity, regressiveness and chaos of multiracial societies they will call you a "neo-Nazi". Use veracity and information to establish your view and then will delete your posts, censor and revoke your recording contract. This is why great bands like GRAVELAND are totally censored and ignored in the major metal mags: They don't subscribe to the leftist/egalitarian agenda and so their music is boycotted by leftist opinion gatekeepers that want to tell you what is acceptable and what is not. Isn't it ironic? These same leftist/liberal/race mixers that complain about how the "Christian Right" and Bush censor art, have nothing to say when white youth are thrown in prison in Germany because they wrote lyrics extolling the virtues of their people and heritage. Meanwhile black rappers sing about killing whitey and cops, etc. and the Jewish Media industry rewards them with lucrative recording contracts. NECRO's placement on this bill was a transparent attempt to dictate cultural mores and norms to white youth. Plain and simple.
The fact is mutliracial societies don't work. Black crime is not caused by socio-economic conditions, that's a tenuous excuse for their behavior. Poor whites who derive from communities that are POORER than those of some blacks still do not commit violent crime in numbers even appraoching that of blacks. It's not economic. It's genetic, it's intrinsic, it's racial. The media has made it a crime to state that fact. I will be called a "hater" for writing this. Yet, the evidence clearly tells us this is the case. Are we free to investigate or are we afraid of being called "racists"?
I wonder why MTV never plays any videos from all the bands on Resistance Records? There is some great talent there. Could it be because these bands are not semitically correct?
Some people have closed minds and refuse to consider the notion that white people have a right to live with their own kind. The media won't admit this but integration/multiculturalism is FORCED. We are not free here.
Anyone who thinks that I'm unfairly "targeting" non-whites is not reading my words correctly. The fact is WHITE people are being targeted, they are being car-jacked, butchered, robbed, raped, attacked, lied to, insulted, stabbed, murdered and beaten to death in the HUNDREDs of thousands each year in this society by non-whites, primarily blacks. That's a fact but your CNN and FOX news won't tell you that. The rest of the Jewish media won't tell you that.
Necro is a talentless jerk whose "career" is built on hype and networking. Who controls these networks?

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134. Anthony hethcoat writes:

I was at the show in Massachusetts on July 13th, The whole show was great. except for necro. Necro is a rap band, thats it, The songs they played at the concert were not even close to being metal. I was Down the floor and everyone around me was Flipping them off and yelling you suck. I didnt seen very many emo kids around, so its definity more then just a bunch of angry emo kids. Even my 49 year old dad who doesnt listen to very much metal Was flipping them off, lol. at the end of their set, everyone in the crowd flipped off necro and yelled "YOU SUCK" which they did, them ebing taken off this tour is a very good choice, they never even should of been on the tour in the first place....

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135. brandedcfh420 writes:

go cathy, glad to see that there are still white people out there who are proud of white heritage and are not afriad to state it....i support everything you have said...we, as wgite humans, need to wake up and state in our white voices that we are not going to be turned into wiggers or white-wetbacks...we are wgite and we are proud of it....so what if we do not want to listen to rap, live around blacks or mexicans....we have our own choices of music and lives to live and enjoy....AND I DONT CARE WHAT ANY1 WANTS TO SAY ABOUT ME BECAUSE I AM A WHITE MAN WHO STILL BELEIVES IN WHITE PRIDE EVEN THOUGH OUR SO CALLED GOVT., HEALTH CARE SYSTEM HAS BEGAN THE GENOCIDAL KILLING OF WHITES TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY A MULTI-CULTURAL NATION...ALL THEY HAVE DONE IS SELL OUT MAJOR COMPANIES AND LEFT THE AMERICANS WHO WERE WORKING FOR THEM, AMERICANS OF ALL RACES, TO LIVE IN POVERTY...LOOK AT THE WELFARE SYSTEM, BOGGED DOWN BY MEXICANS AND BLACKS WHO DONT WANT TO GET JOBS, WHO WANT TO CONTINUE TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY AND THEN RUN BACK TO WHEREEVER THEY CAME FROM...WAKE UP YOU DUMB, BLIND ILLITERATE JACK-OFFS...ITS TIME THAT YOU STATE WHERE YOU STAND ON ISSUES LIKE THIS....BECAUSE BY KEEPING SILENT, AND ONLY TALKING SMACK ABOUT IT IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOMES ONLY SHOWS YOU ARE COWARDS....GO AND CONFRONT THESE BROWN AND BLACK POWER RACIST B1TCHES WHO WANT YOU AND YOUR WHOLE RACE TO BE CLEANSED OFF THIS PLANET....WAKE UP BEFORE YOU ARE HEADING TO THE DEATH CHAMBER CONTROLLED BY SOME FOREIGN FUK WHO WILL LAUGH AS YOU ARE SLAUGHTERED.....

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136. I'm happy he dropped out writes:

Are you kidding me, Necro never should have even disgraced himself by joining a tour with such sh**ty EMO fa**ot bands. I'm happy he dropped out, Sounds of the underground is full of mostly really sh**ty emo bands and a bunch of Emo fa**ot fans who probably never go outside. :D

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137. Cynic writes:

Ok here we go.

Both cathy and brandedcfh420 seem to be using Metal, the holiest of holy things as a vehichle for their own agenda. So that fact that metal has nothing to do with race separation it makes it pretty easy to cut the arguement of at the head.

Jimi-f***ing-hendix. Would there even be metal without the man?
Kirk Hammett. Man even at this point something should be obvious
Mike Smith and Terrance Hobbs - Suffocation if you didn't know, probably the most influentual death metal band out there if you listen to the genre's many ripoffs.
Herman Li - I've been cranking Dragonforce lately so yeah.
SEPULTURA!... I f***ing give up, this is stupid even to me.

I mean, even the very roots of metal draw from blues-rock.

Bottom line, there is no conspiracy in metal. I mean, just look at the popularity of Burzum. The idea is totally delusional. Am I proud of being white? Not really no, I'm in no way ashamed either. I just don't give a f*** about 'white culture', what ever the hell that may be. Heavy metal is my culture, a culture which in it's very nature seems inclusive of any race or person.

"This is why great bands like GRAVELAND are totally censored and ignored in the major metal mags" ---- They are?? Any proof of this?

Now Playing: Suffocation - "The Invoking"

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138. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

I totally agree with Cynic on his points. And I feel it's totally necessary to mention that brandedcfh420 comes across as a total racist bigot. If none of what he/she - whichever - said sounded like some of the most redneck/KKK type stuff then I certainly don't know what racism is. And again, to 100% agree with Cynic, Cathy and this other one here are making statements so narrowed and flat to say basically that noone be it black or Mexican or whatever other than whites have no place in metal. And with that said, I'm sure one of you will tell me that's not what you meant that you meant Mexicans and blacks and whatever race as long as they AREN'T within the metal community. Tell me that this - either way, doesn't sound like segregation. Musical segregation to say the least. White people have been borrowing different types of music from several different cultures for hundreds of years and now you people feel certain cultures have no place in the metal community. That's disgusting for me to think how many people there are with your exact views walking about this country everyday. It's plain sick. And when it comes to hearing or seeing people act so ridiculous, it doesn't make me very proud to be white. Wake up and smell that your s**t stinks too. And oh yes it does! Wake the f**k up!!!

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139. PH writes:

i went to sounds of the underground at koolhaus in toronto 2007 and necro you where amazing i thought you kicked f***in a$$ spite wut any other people say push** to the limit kicks a$$ and i am also happy to now that necro also thinks that emos are fags

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140. beans writes:

i dont care what anyone says necro was still way better then devil wears prada

# Aug 11, 2007 @ 12:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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141. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

Cathy- you are an idiot.

C: "The fact is WHITE people are being targeted, they are being car-jacked, butchered, robbed, raped, attacked, lied to, insulted, stabbed, murdered and beaten to death in the HUNDREDs of thousands each year in this society by non-whites, primarily blacks."

FMC: I would say that so too are HUNDREDS of thousands of blacks and non whites are subjected to the same strife that you have just cited by both each other and whites. There is no white targeting. Just crime. People of every race have done this to each other for hundreds of years, since civilization began. To claim that white people are being targeted is simply ignorant and a signifying mark of brainwashing.

C: "Why include a "death rapper" on a metal bill? To force the concept of racial diversity and multiculturalism upon white youth."

FMC: Hardly. Quite a decent percentage of Metal and rock is racially mixed, or at least not white. Metallica. Jimi Hendrix. Ankla. Korn. System of a Down. Just to name some of the more mainstream ones. Besides the fact that rap has certaintly never been forced onto the Metal scene. Rage Against the Machine. Beastie Boys. P.O.D. Nonpoint. Kid Rock. Papa Roach. Linkin Park(hardly Metal though). Korn every now and then. Even Anthrax did a song with Public Enemy.
Diamond Oz tells us that this Necro character once had a Metal band. Perhaps the reason the "death rapper" was included on the bill was because he wanted to be? He was obviously a Metal fan, and wanted to see if he could be accepted by fellow comrades in the culture. All his "f*** You's " and crowd bashings were most likely mental defense mechanisms from his monumental failure of that. If anything was being forced, Necro would most likely still be on the tour, dumbass.

C: "The fact is mutliracial societies don't work."

FMC: Isn't it amusing how the richest country in the world is also the most racially and culturally diverse?
Albert Einstein, a Jew, came up with the idea that made the atomic bomb possible. Not his intention, but the result ended WW2. (Which I might add, compounded in the deaths of 6 million jews, and another 6 million people composed of blacks, homosexuals, elderly, handicapped, gypsies, and other non-aryans, who hitler felt made his society too diverse. Sure, it worked for a little while, but look what happened to the third reich; where is his vast German empire now?)
Tupac, r.i.p, made me pay attention to the world around me, what things meant, why things are the way they are, to look into society itself and realize what was wrong with the world.
As Randy from Lamb of God pointed out, THE GUITAR IS AN AFRICAN INSTRUMENT, it was invented by black people. Tony Iaommi from Black Sabbath was a Blues fan, claiming heavy influnce from that genre, which was dominated by black people. Without racial diversity in both the U.S. and Europe, and the accompanying cultural assimilation, Metal as we know it would never have existed. Commenting on a Metal website, even racist Cathy need bow to that fact.

I will continue this post later. Between brandedcfh420 and the aforementioned, my patience for ignorant f***tards grows thin, and I comparativly grow weary.

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142. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

sorry for such a long post, now that i read what i wrote, prolly shoulda split it up. My points still stand though, lengthy as i made them. If I ever do get the time to finish analyzing and subsequently demolishing these comments, i will try to keep it shorter, or at least split it up. Don't wanna give people headaches from reading, I just really f***in detest racism and bigotry.

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143. Cynic writes:

Hardly buddy, idiots who can't slap a return or find their capslock button to turn off - That gives headaches.

Now Playing: Trouble - "The Wish"

# Aug 13, 2007 @ 1:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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144. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

Man I couldn't agree with you more FMC. Some people just seem so proud to be so ignorant. Quite a sad reality. f*** em because it's these kinds of people who feed the frenzy on a daily basis. And I just simply can't have a part of that whatsoever. f*** Cathy and that brandedcfh420 and anyone who supports or befriends anyone like them. f*** em!!!!

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145. brandedcfh420 writes:

OK, SO WE R PROUD OF OUR "IGNORANCE"....OK, AT LEAST WE STILL CLAIM TO BE PROUD THAT WE HAVENT TURNED OURSELVES INTO SOME PUNK A$$ WIGGER B1TCH WHO WALKS AROUND ACTING ALL GANGSTAFIED....

EVERYDAY THE NEWS MEDIA MAKES THESE GANGSTA PUNKS LOOK AS IF THEY ARE THE NEW KINGS OF THE U.S. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO HATE RAP, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED DESTRUCTION OF OUR COUNTRY....YES, WE HATE YOU TOO, MEANING THE WHITE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HATE US FOR STATING OUR OPINIONS...YOU ARE JUST LAMB BEING LED TO THE BRAINWASHING MACHINE....BAAA BAAAA BAAA BAAA....ENJOY WATCHING OUR COUNTRY CONTINUE THE DOWNWARD SLIDE INTO POVERTY....

AS FOR THE METAL MUSIC BEING RACIALLY MIXED, YOU ARE CORRECT...BUT, THAT DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO ACCEPT SOME PUNK A$$ "DEATH RAP" B1TCH OR HIS CRAPPY MUSIC...IM GLAD THAT HE LEFT IN ANGER...MAYBE HE WILL SEE THAT HIS GANGSTA WIGGER ATTITUDE ISNT WHAT WE LIKE....

YOU WANT TO CALL ME RACIST GO AHEAD...THE BLACK PEOPLE I WORK WITH DONT SEEM TO THINK I AM, AND I AM THE SAME WAY AROUND THEM AS WELL....THEY KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE WAY THE MEDIA HAS MADE KILLING WHITES, RAPING WHITE WOMEN, SELLING CRACK, ACTING ALL HARD GANGSTA JUST FOR SOME MONEY...THEY HATE MOST OF THE RAP ARTISTS OUT THERE AS WELL....CAUSE THEY ARE TIRED OF THESE SO CALLED BLACK RAP "SUPERSTARS" MAKING THEIR OWN RACE LOOK BAD...I GUESS AS USUAL, THE WHITE SUBURBANITE PUNKS WHO HAVE EMBRACED THE BLACK RAP WORLD ONLY SHOW THEY CANT BE REAL...THEY HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT.......FAKE A$$ WIGGER WANKSTAS....WAKE UP SHEEPLE....IF YOU ARE WHITE YOU ARE WHITE...STOP TRYING YOUR BEST TO BE SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT....YOU JUST KEEP SHOWING THAT YOU ARE A FAKE A$$ WANNABE....

# Aug 13, 2007 @ 8:47 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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146. Acid Rain writes:

brandedch420 people would take you more seriously if you:

#1) Turn the caps lock off, it doesn't get your point across, more just makes reading it a headache and irritating (As Cynic would say).
#2) Whats up with the "..." are you trying to pause to give your post more feeling or is it a really annoying habit like the whole caps lock thing?
#3) Wigga Wanksta? *shakes head*
#4)"ENJOY WATCHING OUR COUNTRY CONTINUE THE DOWNWARD SLIDE INTO POVERTY" Thats due to poor economy in general, you can't pin that on a specific race.
#5)"HIS GANGSTA WIGGER ATTITUDE ISNT WHAT WE LIKE" That isn't what YOU like. You can't speak for everyone around you, only yourself.
#6)"WAKE UP SHEEPLE" *shakes head again* I seriously hope you didn't think that was clever.

Eliminate all of these things and people make take you.1% more serious bringing you to a grand total of .1% of the metal underground posters who care about what you have to say. (These statistics of people who care includes you)

# Aug 13, 2007 @ 1:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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147. sadchild writes:

i was there, watching 80% of the crowd boo and flip them off. they definitely were not good. i even like rip-hop or whatever you want to call it. recent acts like reveille, primer 55, shuvel and old-school beasties, run-dmc, etc. but these guys had nothing to say..... except that apparently you can f--- with them. over and over. no real lyrical content, just attitude and overused cliches. they were really pathetic. even on a hip hop tour they should be laughed off the stage.

# Aug 13, 2007 @ 3:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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148. RememberMetal? writes:

The person that opens, fills and closes their post in ALL CAPS is so desperate and defeated they are not worth addressing...This is a rule of mine not a response.

Cathy
The people who share your opinion on this thread don't share your command of the language. Must be lonely way up there on that burning cross pontificating to people who share your skin color but not your views.

This vast media conspiracy has obviously caused irreversible damage to our feeble minds -- stunting our fear of foreign cultures to the point of steadily ascending mixed marriages.
Something that must instil a dread no other. Your kind are a dying breed in philosophy and heritage. Perhaps when you're in the nursing home your great grand daughter (swollen with twins) will introduce you to her Hispanic/Italian/Jewish fiance.

Don't worry though, I'm sure they'll have cute kids.

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# Aug 13, 2007 @ 3:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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149. brandedcfh420 writes:

you all are just too scared to say what you truly feel....fukin pu$$ies....bow down to the govt. controlled media that lies to you, tells you what to wear, eat, how to live, etc....

#4)"ENJOY WATCHING OUR COUNTRY CONTINUE THE DOWNWARD SLIDE INTO POVERTY" Thats due to poor economy in general, you can't pin that on a specific race.

thanks to the mexicans, our economy is in bad dissrepair....living on welfare, having 10 kids, 50 people living in one small house...wake up...this country has been invaded and is going downhill...enjoy the slide into poverty.....but since our govt loves these c***roaches, i guess its only right to blame the puky white trash yuppies that pay these fukers cheaper wages and take jobs from the americans already working here....

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150. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

I say exactly what I truly feel. I am 32 years old and do exactly what I want to do. " Bow down to the government"? It's funny all these things you say to justify your incoherent ramblings. We're poverty stricken because of "Mexicans living on welfare..." this that and the other. Our economy has been going downhill for several years now and not due to any of those things you speak of. It's the government that you mentioned who you have to blame for poor economy. Racism doesn't solve any of our problems. Never has. Never will. You can point your little finger all you want at whoever you choose to but it will change nothing. And in the meantime, I will point my middle finger at people like you who don't see things for what they really are. Stop making excuses for why your world is in shambles. Maybe you should have a talk with the Senate and our poor excuse for a president.

# Aug 13, 2007 @ 9:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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151. BRANDEDCFH420 writes:

CONSIDERING THAT EVERYTHING YOU ALL HAVE SAID IS WORTHLESS BECUASE THE GOVT LOVES WEAKLINGS LIKE YOURSELVES...take it all up the butt...thats what you all are doing...you can call me racist, i dont care....the blacks i work with dont think i am.."i dont see things for what they are"...I SEE IT FOR EVERYTHING IT IS....!!!....the american people have layed down their rights to the rest of the world...the so called DEMOCRACY we live in is such a joke...as our govt spreads democracy throughout the world, more and more of this country is finding out about the dead democracy we live...our military is going through another vietnam...all this illegal immigration of all races isnt helping...BUT MEXICANS COMPRISE THE BIGGEST WELFARE SUCKING LEECHES IN THIS COUNTRY....besides, our big businesses love the c***roaches, thats why thousands have been laid off and cheap mexican labor is being brought in...so what if they love metal music...they say they are law abiding...but they are here illegally...are you all too blind to see it or too scared to want to see it?....why is it whenever a white person stands up for american rights over some fuking foreigners rights they are called racist, bigots, anti-american?...because thats what the media has begun to make any american of any race who beleives that the united states is dying from the inside out and wants it to change for the better not the worse....our love of metal is 1 thing that can bring us together, all races...but thats as far as i see it going...i have friends of all races, and they dont care if i feel the wat i do...most of the blacks i hang out with hate the mexicans too...will you call them racist?...all you people who want the mexicans here (i am refering to the illegal mexicans) are just weak morons who obviously want our country to go under...

# Aug 14, 2007 @ 8:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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152. Acid Rain writes:

Another post from Brandedcfh420 (excuse me his name was in all caps I forgot, must be the emphasis thing he tries to do.)
#1) ."the blacks i work with dont think i am" Ok so because of what 3 or 4 people say that doesn't make you a racist? Your entire post is filled with nothing but ignorant ideas that are spawned from backward a$$ backwoods racism. Its like that south park episode with the aliens from another planet "They took our jobs, blah blah blah"

#2)"why is it whenever a white person stands up for american rights over some fuking foreigners rights they are called racist, bigots, anti-american?" This entire country is comprised of foreign immigrants. Believe it or not, unless you are American Indian, which from your posts you aren't (considering all you talk about is white rights) then at one moment or another your family was sittin on a diseased ridden boat filled with all types of ethnic groups and social classes passing through Ellis Island.
#3)"most of the blacks i hang out with hate the mexicans too...will you call them racist?" Yeah I would call them racist, thats what racism is pal. Someone not liking a group of people simply because they are from a different ethnic group, you don't have to white to be racist.
#4) Again with the "..." You are not gettin any extra emotion or feeling in your posts when you try to do pauses like that. Save yourself the energy and put one period instead of three.
#5)"i dont see things for what they are"...I SEE IT FOR EVERYTHING IT IS....!!!" No you just find ways to put the blame on everything around you. Everything and everyone has some kind of flaw. Blah Blah Blah wah wah wah preach preach preach. Listenin to you is like listenin to one of those hobos on the corner of the street with a sign that says "repent". You want others to listen when in fact you should be listening.

Don't push your preachy bullsh** off on others, I feel bad for any young easily influenced minds that come in an earshot of your noise pollution. Your so full of it your breath reeks of sh**.

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153. 7575 writes:

branded420 lick us blind u cracker hey u need us more than we need the brightness of your being,i mean what would u do with out a mexican we sell u our pot our coke and our meth that way u can f**k your sister on meth and keep your inbred traditon boomin

# Aug 14, 2007 @ 11:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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154. blast writes:

keep telling em acid rain f*** BRANDEDCFH420

# Aug 14, 2007 @ 2:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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155. Ben-likes-Slayer writes:

BRANDEDCFH420, go back to the swamps and listen to Screwdriver or whatever other noe-nazi bands you KKK b****es listen to.

# Aug 15, 2007 @ 3:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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156. brandedcfh420 writes:

im still here and still hate illegal immigrants....btw, skrewdriver sux a$$....i dont listen to white supremacist music and hate the kkk....damn people...as always only the white person can be racist it seems...
i dont buy drugs from mexicans...so to all of you who think you have hurt my feelings..keep trying...because i will hate illegal immigrants of all races...just deal with it...too bad your moms didnt abort you weak a$$ sissies...our country has been sold out from under our feet and you all think that the world today will turn out ok...FOR EVERY OTHER COUNTRY THAT HAS BOUGHT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE....look at the detroit area, the cars companies sold out to foreigners and now thousands of americans are going into poverty....damn, you people are blind...this country is going further and further down the toilet and all you people can do is bow down and lick the a$$es of the ones who are at the front of the assault on this coountry...

# Aug 15, 2007 @ 9:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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157. brandedcfh420 writes:

oops, country...typo...

# Aug 15, 2007 @ 9:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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158. dookiebrain writes:

these rap morons are a bought industry, your like a mcdonalds cheesburger, full of sh** and never going away!!!however rap really is for unintelligent punks who feel they need respect, there is way more to life then hoes, drugs, respect, and guns, its not your department so stay out of it.no offense necro but if death metal was REALLY in your blood chances are you would never be into hip hop.its for the few and elite, its a lifestyle not a hobby, its a way of life not a stepping stone.i can respect your ideas and your wanting for originality.the day that all this baggy jeans,stupid bandanas, gold chains, dumb walks,complete disregard for life, rap sh** is over will be a good day. there is no individuality in the rap sh** scene, they all have to follow something whether its rap or not, they are all morons and i wish there demise,get rid of the unintelligence please!!!!!!!!!!

# Aug 15, 2007 @ 3:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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159. Joo writes:

Wow!!! this is for post 153 Last time i checked this was a website designed for underground metal, what in the hell are you thinking blabbing on about people buying drugs? Racism has nothing to do with drugs, obviously your not smart enough to understand that. At least I find it more amusing when we argue about MUSIC!!!!

# Aug 15, 2007 @ 7:02 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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160. Jrizzle writes:

Wow, I can't believe people still care about this lol

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# Aug 16, 2007 @ 10:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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161. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

some silly crazy sh** man. f*** it. f*** it all and f***ing no regrets

# Aug 16, 2007 @ 11:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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162. RememberMetal? writes:

Branded's spelling is worse than most illegal immigrants'.

LOL

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# Aug 16, 2007 @ 3:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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163. brandedcfh420 writes:

RM, GO HUMP YOUR MOM!!!!!!!!!

# Aug 16, 2007 @ 4:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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164. Jrizzle writes:

Lol at RememberMetal's comment

# Aug 16, 2007 @ 4:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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165. Cynic writes:

2nd lol at RememberMetal's comment

# Aug 16, 2007 @ 8:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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166. Sabu420 writes:

In my opinion Necro was wrong on the bill. The only band he related to was Shadows Fall. The rest of the line up is totally crap that has nothing to do with metal. Even this viking suckers (Amon Amarth) have so much to do with metal like Good Charlotte with punk....nothing. Both = poser scum.
Necro should play live with bands like Slayer, Machine Head, Obituary, Six Feet Under,...(this are METAL bands...and now compare Necros rapping with the fast "shouting"/singing stye of guys like Araya or Burns)
I hope you understand what I want to say, he belongs to a METAL festival tour..but not to a tour that's called something up with underground in the title, that has only one underground artist on the bill. I mean, which of the bands are underground? I'm from f*****ng germany and I know them all. For somebody who lisens only to the billboard charts this bands maybe perhaps underground, but not for the people who are really interested in underground music. Necro was the only underground artist on this tour.

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167. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

To Sabu420: That whole sh** is true actually, but the reason none of those bands are REALLY underground is because there would be no f***in funding for the tour. Those bands are really just Metal that hasn't hit it mainstream yet. They're fairly popular, but just enough unknown to be labeled (tentatively) underground. You just have a wider listening range than most average Metal fans that i've seen or talked to, so points to you for that.

# Aug 17, 2007 @ 12:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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168. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

DAMNIT! brandedcfh420 was doing so good on keeping his caps off. I guess bigotry just feels like compensating for something in any way possible.
Excuse the petty personal attack, but there is so much more i woulod love to make fun of this guy for!
1)Thousands of americans now live in poverty? They still live ten times better than most average AIDS infected, malaria prone Africans with acid- bloated stomachs from starvation. Most of the time our American poverty is caused by guys who can't deal with sh** and end up drinking our drugging up to escape it all. They have jobs, but use the money to pay for their habits, and stay homeless, and are then labeled poor. I'm not saying that the system doesn't screw people over, because it does, all the time. But to remain in the gutter is ALWAYS the victims fault.
2)brandedcfh420 has not really said anything new for the past 3 Articles he posted, save for the "RM, GO HUMP YOUR MOM!!!!!!!!!" comment, which didn't really make me "wake up" at all, I'm sorry.
3) Immigrants are not destroying our economy. The real culprit is inflation and inevitability. Land shortage makes real estate prices go up. A war in two countries and worldwide usage makes gas prices go up. Not to mention that the war bulids up national debt. An absent rival superpower gives no incentive for competitive growth in any direction. Why get any better if you are already the best? The U.S. economy may be going downhill, but it took the combined power of over half of europe to bring down the almighty dollar, so shut your piehole, and stop b****ing.

# Aug 17, 2007 @ 12:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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169. brandedcfh420 writes:

still here and smacktalking the ones who think that this countrys probs are due to inflation and anything else other than being sold out from under our feet....in about 10 yrs we wont have a country left...it will be under the control of the united nations....baaaa baaaa baaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!.......

# Aug 17, 2007 @ 9:05 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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170. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

Sold out from under our feet? How about hundreds of years ago when this country was stolen from under "their" feet? I'm talking about Native Americans. The first inhabitants of this country. And who stole it? White people! It may have been hundreds of years ago but it serves as a permanent stamp on this country's history. You feel you have justification for "our country being sold right from under our feet"? That's kind of selfish man. I mean think about it. I believe I read somewhere on this thread in one of your own posts that this country is the strongest of all - in so many words any way. Yet you make it sound so weak. If you feel like this country is being overran by immigrants then why don't YOU do something about it instead of making racial slurs and talking about us as a whole being so downtrodden. You have enough time to sit around on here complaining about this sh** - gather yourself up a union of like-minded bigots and start your very own upheaval. If you could do that, maybe someone and I mean some ONE who gives a flying f*** about this senseless stuff you speak of will actually listen to you sincerely and seriously. Though that's far-fetched. I doubt that would ever happen. Sorry I'm using your weapon of caps-lock against you here but I'm sure you'll use it back on me. Anyway have a nice day. f***ing bigot

# Aug 17, 2007 @ 10:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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171. Darkspear666 writes:

All i have to say, if there were emo's booin and dissing necro and pLR and if i was there with myself or with a grp of mates, i would of loved necro too seen us smashing the f*** out of them for him. i would f***ing kill for that c***

# Aug 18, 2007 @ 6:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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172. brandedcfh420 writes:

blah blah blah.....all you white weak a$$es just go ahead and become white slaves for the other races.....ill continue to stand up beside my black friends who hate these illegal fuknuts as well...you all just show the complacancy of the american people...and all necro is doing is making more white surburban wigger b1tches become human trash.....

# Aug 18, 2007 @ 8:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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173. xxxbodomofmynutsxxx writes:

Yea lets get rid of all the illegals, and their great janitorial,taxi, liquor store jobs. U f***ing moron. And dont use CFH, u make Pantera fans look stupid, u f***ing racist.

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# Aug 18, 2007 @ 1:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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174. brandedcfh420 writes:

more blah blah blah.........if you love the illegals so much give up your job to one....if you are even old enough to work, bunch of pansy a$$ anti-american b1tches

# Aug 18, 2007 @ 5:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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175. RememberMetal? writes:

Brandedcfh420

Make up your mind.

You say you have all these "black friends" but then you state that the music largely pioneered by their race is for "human trash".

You're not just a paranoid, uneducated racist, you're also a hypocrite. You don't even know how to respond to people who put you in check.

Branded: "GO HUMP YOUR MOM!!!!!!!!!"

Are you eight years old?...It's too bad if you're not.

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# Aug 18, 2007 @ 5:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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176. Cynic writes:

Personally brandedcfh420 (I live in New Zealand so don't really know or care about the American situation) I see immigrants for what they are, which is human beings.

You stick to your pride of being white/american/affluent/whatever so much like you earned it. Wake up and realise you're a biological fluke, you could have just as easy have been a diseased malnurished Ethiopian. I'd like to hear your views on immigration to the great country that is America then. Your just a selfish bastard really, you take the luck you have of being born in a country/having good parents and flaunt it to the less fortunate. AllI can think is you bastard.

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# Aug 18, 2007 @ 7:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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177. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

brandedcfh420 writes:
more blah blah blah.........if you love the illegals so much give up your job to one....if you are even old enough to work, bunch of pansy a$$ anti-american b1tches

First off, You are a f***in moron. ANTI-AMERICAN?!?!? So the ideals that were wrote in the Declaration of independence, stating all men are created equal, is un-american? Everthing about American culture epitomizes the meshing of individual cultures togetther. Ever heard of The Great Melting Pot? Thats what that means.
SECOND OF ALL: Maybe YOU have to give up your gay 9-5 factory job or whatever the f*** you do to an illegal, but not me. I have worked heavy Construction since I was twelve, paid under the table, just like the Mexicans, and got a raise within 3 weeks to nearly double of what the illegals were making. Never had to settle for a minimum wage job since. Why? Beacause I bust my a$$ and do a good f***ing job, like a real man, and a real American would, not some b**** who cries about unfair racial bullsh**. If most Americans weren't so f***in lazy in the workforce, maybe we might not have anything to worry about, hmmm?

I would also like to point out that you have not disproved a single point made against you, brandedcfh420, just quoted them and then ramble on with the same ignorant bullsh**. On the other hand, I see quite a few people using actual logic to dethrone virtually everything you even utter in your extreme f***tarded state of bigotry and unbuttressed hate.
Excuse me for for being so cheaply immature, but suck d*** brandedcfh420, so I can hear something other than dumbass.

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# Aug 19, 2007 @ 12:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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178. brandedcfh420 writes:

all you people are doing is showing how your pathetic weak a$$es are scared to be called racist by standing up and poiting out how this country is dying.....weak sissies....why continue to allow the people to come up from their country and destroy our systems from the inside....its just like the way our country has stolen oil from other countries...by bogging down our country from the inside, we are being turned into a poverty stricken nation...REMEMBER THE GREAT DEPRESSION???...WELL GET READY FOR ANOTHER ONE THAT WILL BE WORSE THAN THE 1ST...all the welfaare sucking people who are here will leave with the money they didnt earn, leaving the american people to suffer in poverty.....too bad most of the morons on this board cannot see this due to being sheltered and given everything they wanted...all of you will see this one day when you have no money or homes..

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179. Cynic writes:

FMC - "I would also like to point out that you have not disproved a single point made against you, brandedcfh420, just quoted them and then ramble on with the same ignorant bullsh**."

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# Aug 19, 2007 @ 3:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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180. brandedcfh420 writes:

well, i dont need to disprove anything...because you all know its true....if any race other than the white person doesnt get their way, they will turn around and yell racism..so this weak, pu$$y govt just gives them everything they demand...equal rights my a$$!!....

# Aug 19, 2007 @ 10:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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181. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

Obviously we dont know that its true you moron, or else we wouldnt be arguing the point. Not only are you wrong, but your statements dont even make sense. I do believe that minorities do cry racism unnecessarily these days(i.e. Don Imus, ho), but maybe not, considering that believers of nonsensibilities like yourself still believe they need to be a pain in the a$$ to those of us who have ascended beyond such pigheadedness. And thank you Cynic.

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# Aug 19, 2007 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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182. RememberMetal? writes:

I'm done addressing Branded.

Not only is he boring he can't support --ANYTHING-- he says. Furthermore, he refuses to respond to any of the points we make.

And he repeats himself.
Like dusty broken record. He seems to think we havent read his previous posts, so he says the SAME thing.

I havent decided if he's under ten years old, or a senile 93 year old Klansman. Here comes his childish response: "Go hump ____fill in the blank____!!!!!!!!"

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# Aug 19, 2007 @ 6:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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183. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

I am inclined to agree. I almost just said f*** it to his last post but commented anyway mostly just to thank Cynic. Some part of me held out hope to convince him otherwise, but I suppose it is futile to convince one who thinks on such a different mindset. I almost wish that Cathy had responded instead, so at least I might have had a conversation on my hands.

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# Aug 20, 2007 @ 7:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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184. RememberMetal? writes:

So now that branded has been thoroughly embarrassed lets get back to the subject.

Necro failed to win over the metal crowd. The same way a country or polka artist would fail to win over a metal crowd.

Who has seen a show where an outsider act won over an audience that could have hated them?

I've seen two.

1.) My favorite being when Gwar opened for the Misfits(I think Voodoo Glowskulls were there and two other no name punk-ska-core acts) in 1999 at Bogarts. Gwar very obviously stole the show. These were punk, goth-punk and hardcore fans --- Gwar owned the whole lineup. Everyone was stunned. One of my favorite shows and I've seen many dozens.

I was getting red and green sh** off my running shoes for weeks.

2.) At the insistance of the little lady, I went to 2003 Lolapalooza. Audioslave, Incubus, Rooney....A bunch of boring or sh**ty bands and then Janes Addiction (who were great and VERY loud)....To the point: Jurassic 5 who bored the piss out of me, really worked the crowd. -Very- well recieved and they were completely out of place....Which actually follows my point against branded.

A group of African American successfully reaching an almost entirely white audience.

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# Aug 21, 2007 @ 12:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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185. brandedcfh420 writes:

embarassed?....im still here......and still think you are all a bunch of weak a$$ suck a$$es....enjoy your pathetic, weak lives...too scared to stand up for america....pu$$ies...and just because RM thinks that he embarrassed me, he will go around talking smack to all his pals....im not ashamed or embarrassed for wht i feel or type here....all you white people who defend this wigger sh1t only prove that the govt. has succeeded in turning white people into nothing more than human trash....call me what u will i dont care...because im still white and will act, live and die white...and will not bow down to this brain washing machine turning whites into pathetic piles of feces...like necro..."death rap"...what a wanskta wigger....WIGGA PLEASE!!!!...lol....so go on and keep bowing down you slaves..

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 8:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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186. brandedcfh420 writes:

Rm, just because a group of black muscicians gave a good show doesnt mean sh**...so what...does that make them gods in metal or something??...big deal...

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 9:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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187. death rap rocks writes:

Just stay in your basement and continue listening to your white trash anal c*** noise and stop wasting internet space with your cheap a$$ wanna be attitude.

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 11:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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188. death rap rocks writes:

this was for branded240 of course ;-)

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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189. CATHY writes:

The stated empirical and forensic evidence that unequivovably shows that blacks and other non-whites commit violent crimes at rates far beyond whites is irrefutable and inordinate. This crime that blacks commit is not due to socio-economic status but rather genetics. Whites and blacks are fundamentally different. These differences manifest themselves in a plethora of ways. To state this fact is not "hate". It is scientifically sound. Isn't it ironic how white leftist/Marxist liberals always say dogmatic things that the Jewish media taught them to say about these subjects? State the fact that blacks commit an inordinate amount of crime and the indoctrinated trendy will say "Oh but it's black on black crime". Then point out to the TV bred, "tolerant" zombie that blacks are 85 % more likely to attack whites than vice versa and they will begin their spiel about how its because blacks are "economically disadvantaged" and "poor".
At this point you present categorical evidence that shows there are more whites numerically living in destitute poverty than blacks, and that these poor whites do not commit nearly as much violent crime as blacks. In synopsis, one truncates the leftist/Jewish/Marxist/white TV bred-zombie's arguments to reveal the insecure, regressive nature of their manufactered dogma.
And yes, those that defend multiculturalism and "diversity" are religious fanatics, they are more dogmatic than the Christians (I'm not Christian), that they seem to despise so much. If you state simple facts about black behavior, or even facts about the dismal failure of multiracial societies they will call you "hater", "neo-Nazi", "extremist", etc. You know the media routine.......
As far as metal being created by Africans? Hahahah, revisionism at it's finest. Blues, contrary to the media hype surrounding modern metal derivations, played a lot less of a minor role than according to it in spite of what members of Black Sabbath may say. White folk music which existed for centuries has much more in common with chordal and tonal development within metal than blues does.
The media loves to seize upon any black contribution and elevate into a sort of epiphony within the profession. For example, ity is claimed by uneducated anti-white bigots that the first open heart surgery was performed by a black man, Charles Drew in 1931 or thereabouts. The Jewish History channel won't mention to you that the first such surgery was performed years earlier by Dr. Pearson, a white European.
By the way, Charles Drew wasn't a nubian black, he was mulatto.

Look, I don't mention these things to disparage or hurt blacks, that is not my intention (actually though, it is white people who are disparaged, killed, raped, robbed, beaten, car-jacked, etc., by non-whites everyday), I write these facts to counter the sheer regressive nonsense disseminated by the liberal/Jewish media that blames white people for the shortcomings of blacks and others.
This has been going on for years.
Pushing Jewish rappers on metal audiences is just another attempt to subvert white youth and make them less aware of their glorious (yes, glorious), and terrific history.
This is a word of caution for those on here who hate any sign of white awareness and unity: Times are changing. We will no longer be subject to Jewish/Multiracial values and mores. We will no longer accept the monopolistic Jewish control of the media and it's concomitants or white guilt and castigation. We will no longer pay attention to your stupid Hollywood films that portray every black as noble and gifted while in reality our people are being murdered by them everyday.
Multiracial societies don' t work. Race is important-----not money, not fiduciary conditions, not socio-economic environment. Race produces these things, unfortunate socio-economic conditons can only exacerbate negative environments--NOT create them. So stop with the gospel of "poor blacks", "poor innocuous, innocent, benign blacks".......and "rich white people" bullsh**.
Look at the system and society, the multiracial society for what it is: a total and irredeemable failure,.a dangerous, regressive and violently ugly place. That is the legacy of the multiracial society. After all, "racists" like me don't run this country, because you know that if I did there would be no white race traitors here and certainly no blacks raping white women, murdering 12 year old white kids in gang initiations, car-jacking eldery women, robbing nursing home residents, shottig innocent people in the streets,etc. By thge way, how come you won't see this on the media tonight? It's happening in YOUR city!! Everyday, 365 days a year.

I don't want to live in a society like this. But hey, I'm just a "hater", right?

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 12:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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190. BRANDEDCFH420 writes:

Just stay in your basement and continue listening to your white trash anal c*** noise and stop wasting internet space with your cheap a$$ wanna be attitude.

i live with my gf in a 1 room apt...dont listen to anal c unt and im still talking smack about you weak a$$ sissies who have bowed down to the black and mexican racist who call the white race the true racist...i guess cathy and i are the only ones here who see the truth...the govt. has made white women ashamed to be with white guys, and they are helping breed out their own damn race...damn you dumbfuks, open your eyes...watch as your towns are overrun with the human trash called illegal immigrants....

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 5:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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191. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

Ahhhh... After branded's grammatically nonsensical and repetitive arguments, I welcome Cathy like a breath of fresh air. I make a wish, and it comes true.

I never said that blacks created Metal, simply that, without the invention of the guitar, which originated in Africa, making it's way into European society through the centuries, there would have been no way that Metal could have existed. While Metal is far more involved and complex than blues could ever be, it was the evolution departing from that tone that at least inspired Sabbath to play as they did. Without blues, Metal may still have formed, but it would sound significantly different from the course it has taken thus far.

I support Multiracialism and defend black individuals not because of the Jewish media. I do not disagree about the mass of Jewish control in some facets of society. Because of Catholic creed decrying the use of banking and other such new institutions during the Rennaisance and onward, Jews did historically gain a significant degree of power within society by taking these roles, and do keep that power to a majority to this day. In fact, a large percentage of the merchants who captured and sold blacks during slavery times were Jewish. I know all this, yet do I hate those who follow the Torah? Hell no. That was then. This is now. i will never dislike someone because of the actions of ones supposedly representative of that persons religion or ethnicity. I just hate those specific people and their actions done at that time. Not a single Jewish person i know is interested in monetary or power laden positions in the workplace. They are normal individuals who just happen to be Jewish.
However, I still do not pay attention to the media regardless. Following the old creed, "The conquerer writes the history", I distrust virtually every fact given to me, realizing that everthing I hear could have been created simply to keep me complacent or contained and manipulated to a degree, sort of a "Matrix" paranoia I guess. Most of what I feel is important I try and research on my own, or ask those from outside of the country what they know, again assuming that every bit I find may have been fabricated for socity's puposes on me. My opinions on racism arise fom the fact that my grandfather and great grandfather were both prominent members of the KKK, as well as that on both sides of my family reside quite decent numbers of WW2 as well as Neo Nazi's. However, the man who has raised me from the age of 4 is black, my stepfather. My two brothers and single sister are all Mulatto, while I am Aryan. By far, I am the most violent. My brothers are actualy living definitions of people reffered to as "p***ies". All three on the honor role every school year, and quite religious. On the other hand, I find myself a Heavy, HEAVY drinker, occasional stoner, and skip school weeks at a time, mostly out of frustration at the passe education system. Out of all my family, I would say that I, am the drain on society, or at least an apathetic rebel to a point. I have been stealing things from stores and people since I was 7, and my music comes form Limewire, legal only on a technicality. So in this case at least, it seems that I am the malcontent here. As for why I am the way i am, I cannot definitively say, it is an accumualtion of experiences that seems to have shaped the way i act. My stepather however, despite being black, and born and raised in the Bronx, plays the guitar, loves Metal, classic at least, and has never used any sort of slang besides the word "pwnd". He is as white as they come.
This and other experiences too many and too involved to post without falling asleep, have made me view people the way I do. Yes, people on a general basis, are sheep. The reason so many blacks end up with that gangsta attitude, many times taking it way to far, in the ways of rape, murder, thievery, is society's self-spawned stereotype role for the black man. When fresh out of slavery and thrust into segregation, many blacks were forced to live a much rougher life than should have been necessary.

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 11:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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192. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

This attitude prevailed onwards through society, creating revolutionaries paying homage to the lifestyle, and attempting to escape the ghetto, such as Tupac. Simultaneously, it created the rap version of posers and idots believing that this was "cool", who now run rampant throughout society. These are the ones who have snapped from normal societal restraints and destroyed people's lives, white, black, or otherwise. Then again, us whites have the manic, socio and pschopathic killers by the names of Charles Manson and Ted Bundy, who made belts out of the nipples of the dead people he had raped and eaten. Columbine. Marie Noe, killing all eight of her newborn children in succesion for no apparent reason. Hitler. It seems even the Asian community has a representative these days, what with the incident at Virginia Tech, claiming over 30 random, innnocent lives. Once again, I point out; people of EVERY race are f***ed up, all the time, in one way or another. Everbody sucks, subtly, or obviously and out in the open. Honestly, I would prefer that everone was openly sinister, that way i could at least fight back and defend myself, rather than people backstabbing you through some intricate plot or spreading lies (i.e. politics, dominated in america by whites and blacks with white dispositions). Instead of focusing your hate on people different than you, as you could never see it from their point of view, since the world is quite different for black people than it is for white people, turn your energy to perhaps changng the bullsh** status quo that keeps everyone divided and opposed. f*** being racist, DO something that actually progresses the world instead of tearing it down. MLK was tired of the racist and black violence crap, and he was the one who made societal impact by creating racial unity, at least to a point. What have racists done but ride on horses in silly ghost costumes, and burn crosses while claiming to be devout christians? Not to say that Cathy does such things, but that racism has yet to have a positive impact on society in any visible way, as far as I've seen. If I am mistaken, then point an incident out for me, and I will research it on my own. Once again realizing that everything i find, Pro racist or otherwise, could simply be propaganda that people like myself must accept on faith alone, I will give any contestation my time and consideration before perhaps bashing it.

Now playing: Serj Tankian- "The Unthinking Majority"

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 11:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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193. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

(Had to split it up for length reasons)

Now Playing- Aerosmith- "Ragdoll" (to lighten my serious mood lol)

# Aug 21, 2007 @ 11:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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194. Cynic writes:

Right, once again an onslaught from Cathy who needs to note two things - A) This is a metal forum and B) It is pretty obvious you don't have a leg to stand on to claim metal is somehow music for whites. While undeniably most popular with young white males, metal is also at it's very core about inclusiveness and community - regardless of race.

"This crime that blacks commit is not due to socio-economic status but rather genetics. " <------- A supremely bold statement, however no surprises there's no link to any medical or biological sites, no quotes from prominent biologists...nothing - Maybe you can type out the full white power pamphlet it came from?

"Blues, contrary to the media hype surrounding modern metal derivations, played a lot less of a minor role than according to it in spite of what members of Black Sabbath may say. White folk music which existed for centuries has much more in common with chordal and tonal development within metal than blues does."

You are joking right? Again, no examples given, no song references, all we get is BROAD WEASEL WORDS like 'the media'. I will guess you would struggle to come up with anything past viking/folk metal which is an isolated sub-genre of metal. The fact that metal integrates elements (if you were looking for a western genre to argue for, Classical would have been the way to go) of classical, jazz and blues simply reinforces the fact that metal is inherently MULTI-CULTURAL. I bet that word brings a chill to your spine.

"I never said that blacks created Metal, simply that, without the invention of the guitar, which originated in Africa" - The history of the modern guitar is intrinsically complicated, I would say the European lute had much more to do with the evolution to guitar. In any case, the seed of metal guitar playing really exists in Jazz (African American as it comes) and the birth of the electric guitar and distortion.

But hey, who am I kidding right? You know Cathy's next post will just be another tirade not acknowledging anyone elses posts, with one or two weak links to metal to make him/her feel like he/she actually has a foothold.

Now Playing: Nile - "Eat Of The Dead"

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 12:14 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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195. brandedcfh420 writes:

just because the blacks invented the guitar means we have to bow down and worship them?...it seems that is what you all are saying over and over...ok they invented the guitar...big deal...metal has many roots, not just in jazz and blues...i guess you are all wiggerfied...

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 7:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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196. Diamond Oz writes:

On the note of the serial killer note (Manson and Bundy) neither of them made belts out of nipples. That was Ed Gein. Manson also technically isn't a killer. I'm not defending them or taking sides or anything, just wanted to point that out lol.

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 7:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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197. Cathy writes:

TO CYNIC:
If you are sincerely looking for sources and evidence regarding the profound and immutable racial differences manifested in a myriad of ways, including the crime stats, I suggest you look into the following authorities on the subject: Dr. Gladye Whitney, Dr. Russell Barton, Prof. Phillipe Rushton, the magnificent writings of Dr. William Shockley,the creator of the transitor (without which you wouldn't be using the computer to spread your anti-white tripe), the former head of the American Anthropological Association Dr. Carlton Coon. These individuals and so many more have published several objective and definitive works on the nature of racial differences, genetics, biology and physiological differences. Oh , I know, please give the typical Jewish TV response now, you know, give me the programmed riposte ""oooh, these are all white supremacist authors, why should we listen to them?". Right? No, the media tells you that the races are the same and the only difference is skin color (!!) (as if you only painted a white man black he would be a black man!). Racial differences are paramount and many, and they go far deeper than skin color. The contortion of the frontal lobe of the hyperthalmus are much more highly developed ON AVERAGE in white Indo-Europeans than in blacks. Do you own research, I'm not going to do your homework for you and list the sundry anthropological and physiological differences (better take a look at the 'racist' scientific medical community and all those 'racist' drugs they make specifically to help black genetic conditions/diseases like sickle cell anemia. I guess the Jew Sumner Redstone that owns MTV didn't tell you about that.
Again, I'm not trying to attack negroes (that is the proper term), I'm simply positing the notion for which there is ample evidence, that multiracial societies dont work.
BRANDEDCHF: Blacks didn't invent guitar. The other person on here who wrote that is mistakingly referring to semites not sub-saharan blacks in Africa. Had he done his/her research he would have found that such a claim is preposterous but in the world of incessant Jewish Fed media disinformation blacks, who had never even invented the wheel on the African continent, somehow have been miraculously guiding European societies and teaching us about robotics, asymetry, laser technology, pressure systems, and physics (lol).
also BRANDEDCHF: You claim that you are on my side but by the style of your writing I'm not convinced of that. I don't want you to mindlessly attack blacks or other non-whites. I want you to intelligently present facts and evidence to people so they can educate themselves on these issues. This is something you haven't done.
To those that say this post has nothing to do with metal or music, you are errant, it does. Again, the Jewish rap "star" NECRO was pumped into the SOTG tour to force "diversity" and the acceptance of black cultural mores down the throats once again of white youth. I stand by this statement. It's the same reason they market this crap on MTV CONSTANTLY to white kids. How come the "Metal" magazines like Terrorizer and Metal Maniacs ban bands like Bound for Glory and GRAVELAND? Graveland is an incredibly talented pagan metal band from Poland but because he sings about whie history, culture, white spirit, he is banned by these "free-speech" mags. For real, they are too afraid to even mention GRAVELAND by name. There is an agenda here. Pay attention and you will see the thread of it.
Read my earlier posts on here if you want understand more about this position.

Thanks

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 9:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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198. lol...death rap vs nsbm writes:

The guys from Graveland should do a gang bang with you cathy, they are very frustrated in a sexual way.
They don't really sing about history, they sing the same kind of bullsh** you write here. Its so sad that so closed minded people are able to breath. Why don't you just work all day and than, maybe one day, you can buy a small island somewhere...you can call it Cathycountry, where stupidness grows on trees.

At least, I really can't see whats negative about an multicolored society and non of your arguments is really logical...not even psychological.
and don't forget to visit www.necrohiphop.com

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 9:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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199. Cathy writes:

By the way-

Negroes, that is Sub-Saharan Blacks, did not "invent" the guitar.

Stringed instruments go back at least as far as Ancient Rome. We know this from clay tablets, and other forms of pictures, that show people playing stringed instruments. Anti-white propaganda which minimizes European contributions is very fashionable but in Europe, a stringed instrument called the lute was more popular, but guitars were also around. During the 16th century, guitars had double strings instead of the single strings that they have today. There was not one standard type of guitar as there is today, either. Some guitars had three strings, some had four, and some had five.

The 17th century was probably when the six-string guitar arrived. A Spanish ( white country in Europe,not Africa, for those of you who love to repeat by rote Jewish lies from the TV) instrument called the vihuela had six strings. It was longer than today's guitar, but it was played using frets on the neck of the guitar, and the music was written down in tablature as it is now. Like the other stringed instruments, a vihuela had a hollow body that gave the sound its volume. Many people consider the guitar a Spanish invention. But I gues that's "racist" of them.

In the 18th century, the bass guitar was invented in Europe (perhaps it was a negro in Europe,maybe the Jew Steven Spielberg will make a movie telling us it surely was?), and so was a ten-string guitar. The ten-string guitar had the six regular strings and a separate set of four bass strings. Also during this time, single strings came into use instead of the old double strings.

Again, Metal has it's derivation in white Folk and primarily classical music. Did blues play a role? Sure. I have never negated that, I simply say that it's role has been exaggerated in accordance with the zeitgeist of forced "diversity" and forced "multiculturalism". No reasonable or educated person believes that metal, a product of white "sturm and drang" if you will, wouldn't have existed without negroes in the same way that no one believes that our space exploratory progress or our understanding of aero-dynamics wouldn't exist without negroes. The notion is simply unfounded and based on anti-white prejudice and conformity than anything else.

The fact is multiculturalism, actually we should be more precise, MULTIRACIALISM has been regressive and damaging. It has slowed us down and brought decline and shame upon our people. I know it's not fashionable to say that, I know that if I were writing this in Europe, if I were writing this in Germany right now I could be arrested for a "hate crime". Seriously, right now as I write this thousands of white people in Europe are imprisoned for writing or speaking such truisms. I guess this the type of freedom that Marxists and egalitarians pride themselves on.

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 9:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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200. brandedcfh420 writes:

cathy, im not attacking blacks....i, like you, am tired of this crap being forced upon the stupid white suburbanite kids that eat it like candy...they then go out and act so gangsta wigger...i dont care what you think or feel about me...i never said i was on your side...so fuk off...

if these people here would actually open their eyes, they would see that white kids have been brainwashed into this blacks are the best at everything mentality..i work with black people and they also feel that whites who act black are just wannabes...the media shows this everyday. we, as whites, see our heritage is now toilet paper for the non-whites who have tagges us as the only racist group on the planet...we must walk on eggshells for these people who have no right to be here anyways (illegal immigrants)..our welfare system is bogged down to overcapacity because they are using it to their advantage. having jobs that p;ay them cash under the table (tax free) and getting welfare $ as well..whites cannot do this..if we have a job we are told that we make too much to be eligible..

now necro is just the next white wigger to come out and continue this brainwashing of the stupid white kids who dont have brains to think with..

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 10:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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201. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

Hey Branded, I got a question for you - just how old are you? I've got to say that I am in my thirties and have liked rap music since its incarnation right around the early eighties. I mentioned this before but I feel I should mention it again to dismiss some of your bold stereotypes. Now back to what I was saying - my all-time favorite music is metal. And having just mentioned rap being a form of music that I listen to, I gotta say I don't like it all but also that I am by no means a "stupid suburbanite white kid". In fact, I grew up within the inner city. You might say the ghetto. And very multiracial. Predominantly blacks and Mexicans and few whites. But for the most part, everyone gets along, regardless of race or musical preference or whatever the case may be. I should also mention that having grown up in the ghetto, I was never what you'd consider a "wigger" or "wanksta" or any of that stupid sh**. The gang sh** was and is left up to the real "gangstas" or the wannabes. And they do tend to make their mark alot. But beyond that, the people who just earn an honest living and try to do the right thing all get along be it black, Mexican, white or whatever. But I also have always kept in mind that I can't trust just anyone. But the bottom line is you give respect, you get respect. I'll touch on that illegal immigrant sh** later.

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 11:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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202. Cathy writes:

BRANDED-Necro is not white, ergo not a wigger, he is Jewish. That explains volumes.

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 1:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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203. Fuck Moderated Comments writes:

Thank you Diamond Oz. I could have sworn I had missed one of the famous killers and misatributed something but i blew it off, sorry about the mistake.
I would like to point this out real quick;
Branded writes-
cathy, im not attacking blacks....i, like you, am tired of this crap being forced upon the stupid white suburbanite kids that eat it like candy...they then go out and act so gangsta wigger...i dont care what you think or feel about me...I NEVER SAID I WAS ON YOUR SIDE...so fuk off...

While earlier, branded writes...
i guess cathy and i are the only ones here who see the truth...

what an a$$hole.

I am No longer going to post on this thread. Cathy's research shows that the guitar came from Europe. Mine leads me to conclude Africa. Either one, or both of us, is fed propaganda on everything we have quoted, and I don't really care who is right on this race isssue anymore. All I know is that I have quite a few great friends and people I trust that I would not have were I an intolrant person. My life will be a happy and unified one, while others who believe otherwise can continue to fight an unneccesary, and fruitless war.

f*** off racists, but if you can find it, peace be with you.

Now Playing: Tupac- "I Ain't Mad At Ya"

# Aug 22, 2007 @ 8:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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204. RememberMetal? writes:

Branded: Rm, just because a group of black muscicians gave a good show doesnt mean sh**...so what...does that make them gods in metal or something??...big deal...

As usual you're missing the point and making loads of spelling mistakes along the way.

You and Cathy have been quite vocal on the matter that Necro's failure at SOTU had something to do with his race...Being Jewish.......even though Cathy corrected you for calling him white. Classic.

Anyway,
My point was and has been, that it's rare for a band that's an oddity on it's tour to do well. A metal band on a punk tour, a rap band at an alt-rock festival. Usually these bands get boos and yawns when seen by non-fans. Gwar and Jurassic 5 were 2 exceptions that I remembered seeing myself.

Cathy is going to have adorable multi-race great grandchildren. Indeed you said it best with "The times are changing".

Now Playing: Mumakil - "III"

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# Aug 22, 2007 @ 10:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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205. Cynic writes:

To CATHY - Well the first thing I note is you seem to be presenting two arguments, one for racial segregation/eugenics and then a tacked on conspiracy about metal to make argument a) somehow relevant.

So argument 1...

I'll start by saying can you please explain this? ---> "please give the typical Jewish TV response now" Personally, I can honestly say I don't know much about the Jewish culture, or what indeed a typical Jewish response would remotely sound like. Though I don't need a superfluous history lesson thanks, I just mean the comment.

"The contortion of the frontal lobe of the hyperthalmus are much more highly developed ON AVERAGE in white Indo-Europeans than in blacks"

And yet they amazingly still look human! They can even talk and sh**! You're talking minor differences here. Can you honestly tell me that you think genes have more (or even a substantial amount) to do with crime in the USA (I'm a New Zealander by the way, and not Jewish lol) rather than upbringing? Poverty? Negative culture? Environment? You say "Racial differences are paramount" and by that I assume biological differences (I'm sure you know how great the anthropological debate over what constitutes a 'race'). Well I'm afraid on this point we will have to agree to disagree because I think biological differences are negligible.

In anycase, at what % of contortion to the frontal lobe do you deem to be enough to whack them into a lesser category? Should we also ostracize any with mental retardation to some remote island? What about the deaf? Blind? Those with an IQ below 100?

"multiracial societies dont work"

No they don't. In fact no societies work. There is no utopia to be found for humanity (to stay on track, see death metal...). Humans are not perfect, and the 'Aryan' race is all to human. In anycase we come down to basic human nature, a) to feel belonging to some group, b) to be the superior group. Now you say "multiracial societies dont work", well I can tell you they would sure as hell be preferable to the vicious race war that would be fought if any races are tried to be segregated. Either that or enslavement. In my fantasies I see those opting for segregation bow down to some 'negro' as you say athlete (for surely they are the physically superior race?). In any case race wars seem like a mass inferiority complex. Even if there was segregation, you would still have those basic human instincts. Christianity is a good example. They may have split their beliefs off into Christianity, having separate places of worship etc, but that sure hasn't stopped the endless schism’s that continue to splinter. I prefer giving a helping hand to those who need it, whether it be a stupid white man or stupid black man.

This leads me on to argument 2!

"the Jewish rap "star" NECRO was pumped into the SOTG tour to force "diversity" and the acceptance of black cultural mores down the throats once again of white youth. I stand by this statement."

Well you can stand by it all you want it doesn't make it sound any more plausible. Any quotes from the organizer? Any material at all to support your wild conspiracy? And no, please, I don't want another huge whacking post about various OTHER material you have. I also find it strange that you are saying you think there is a conspiracy to force 'black' music down the throats of 'white' youth by.... the Jewish? Now THAT is one hell of a racial conspiracy.

"It's the same reason they market this crap on MTV CONSTANTLY to white kids." --- Black kids don't watch MTV? Again, any quotes from MTV execs? I wouldn't know, we only have just got MTV in NZ and I don't watch it (nor any TV really).

# Aug 23, 2007 @ 12:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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206. Cynic writes:

Oh and again with the Graveland thing, are you just saying that because you haven't seen them or have Terrorizer actually said they won't publish anything about them? They have enough about Burzum and co anyway. If it was somehow true, I'd totally agree that's pissing over freedom of speech. In the end, music is music - Lyrics are just sh** that goes over the top, it can make it better, but a truly good song (again see death metal) will be good even if the vocals are indecipherable. And hence, unless you have biological evidence to the contrary - metal is for humans of any race.

"Again, Metal has it's derivation in white Folk and primarily classical music. Did blues play a role? Sure. I have never negated that, I simply say that it's role has been exaggerated in accordance with the zeitgeist of forced "diversity" and forced "multiculturalism". "

Here is something truly entertaining. classical music? A definite yes. But Blues sure had it's role in metal (or though it's role is more of an ancestor through early metal like Zepplin and Sabbath). But here's the funny bit - White folk music? Now THAT is an EXAGGERATED role!! Seriously, you didn't give me any examples when I ask for them before and I don't think you can come up with any now. All I can think of at the moment is the Accept (a German band lol) song "Fast As A Shark" where there is lame folk music playing, then the record skips and metal bursts forth.

Right, that's enough of that bollocks, I'm off to get drunk.

Now Playing: Znowhite - "A Soldier's Creed"

# Aug 23, 2007 @ 12:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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207. CATHY writes:

CYNIC-

Funny that you mention The Restless and Wild CD from Accept which features structural similarities to white Folk. Listen to the beginning of "Neon Nights", in fact dissect the entire Restless and Wild CD (perhaps my favorite 80's metal record), theseare classically influenced compositions. It is all predicated on European musical stylings-with the exception of the pentatonic scales and Middle Eastern flavor of "rincess of the Dawn"-which really constitutes a cultural flavoring, an exchange as opposed to wholesale bastardization in music.

You mention that a "race war" would be unsavory due to the correlative violence you assume would be parcel to it. I've heard this argument often. What about the violence that is already here in this multiracial society? Hundreds of thousands of white women and men are robbed, beaten, raped, attacked, car-jacked, insulted and bludgeoned to death each year in this country and in other Western countries . Indeed, one could say that the race war is already here. White people simply don't want to recognizeitI love the way liberals and Social Marxists/Leftists simply gloss over this empirical reality-this reality of cruel black violence against whites on a massive scale-as if it doesn't exist. Perhaps if YOU were the one beaten into a coma, say like 7 year old Jordan Paulder to mention but one poor soul, perhaps then you would reassess your allegiance to a horribly unjust, regressively violent, intrinsically corrupt multiracial societal structure. Do white people commit crime? They sure do, and in this multiracial mess where no one, black,white, etc., has a sense of rootedness or identity, the crime rates will continue to rise among whites as well. In Hitler's Germany the National Socialists succeeded in creating a virtually crime free state. Even Jewish historians with an anti-German bias admit this fact, read Raul Hilberg's work on this topic. And no, it wasn't because Germany was a "Police state" (it wasn't), nor was it because Germans lived in "fear". The National Socialists suceeded in creating a peaceful state in the pre-war years because they brougt an instauration to the people, they were united and understood the integrity and value of racial solidarity. This created tangible results in thoughtful people. The Germans begin to build roads, bridges, beautiful buildings. It was an incredible cultural blossoming, a truly artistic unfolding replete with multi-faceted and groundbreaking advanvcement in all fields. Look at the cinematography of Leni Riefenstahl or the sculptures of Arno Breker-truly inspired.Anyway, please don't go into the "holocaust" tirade and hyperbolic media hype now. Accept that there are different views o this.

I noticed you completely ignored the authors and their authorative findings on rcaial matter(Gladye Whitney, Dr. William Schockley, etc.).

"I can honestly say I don't know much about the Jewish culture, or what indeed a typical Jewish response would remotely sound like. Though I don't need a superfluous history lesson thanks, I just mean the comment."

Is this a denial of the easily demonstrable inordinate media influence Jews have in this country and abroad? I assumed you knew this and that I didn't have to give you a corporate holding list of the actual names of these Jews. Should I provide such a list?

# Aug 23, 2007 @ 9:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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208. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

To Cathy: All your claims with your dispute mostly on black culture are absolutely inane. I think it's a bit rash to sit and swear by these authors you speak of on their writings. I don't see how there can be any true statistics to measure this by. To me it sounds like a bunch of bigots who believe they feel superior by simply trash-talking on blacks. And yes, I will look into these authors to prove my point. Because I highly doubt there is any substantial evidence to any of this you're trying to make your point from. Just a nice little way you're trying to support racism. Fuk off!

# Aug 23, 2007 @ 10:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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209. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

To Cathy still: By the way, I am white and Jewish. Fuk off!!!!!

# Aug 23, 2007 @ 10:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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210. CATHY writes:

DISPOSITIONONDISC: Thanks for your candor on admitting your one of the chosen, usually I have to pry to discover that. Reminds me of the moranno crypto-Jews.
I don't "support" racism anymore than I "support" the sun to shine. Race is a reality and races are profoundly different. My evidence is not based entirely on the few authors I mentioned, the scope of incontrovertible evidence spans much further than that.
If you like metal, check out Graveland's music.

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211. the last sentence... writes:

...is not correct.
If you like metal, don't listen to nsbm sh** like graveland. This is one of the bands from this stinky nsbm wave. These people mix racist ideology with some historical stuff and black metal music. Look at wikipedia if you are interested in this topic. A lot of bands do this sh** and I don't wanna do advertising for them by calling there names heres.

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212. Kick Ass Duke writes:

Is anyone reading this???

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213. warlockzero writes:

To the above post, NO!!!!!

# Aug 23, 2007 @ 7:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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214. thiking about this..... writes:

...Cathy, you are factually correct but do you think you'll actually chnage people's opinions on here? These people are not academically inclined nor do they care about accuracy.
Last Sentence-I have to agree with Cathy here on this one, have you actually heard Graveland? That band has a style that no one has made before............very original. Just because you don't like the pro-white lyrics you avoid it. That seems rather close-minded of you.

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215. Canadian Bluegrass Flatpicker writes:

I don't even know how i got to this website but it's really cool. I'm not into underground metal so I don't know any bands being discussed but i am sure they are all heady shredders. The closest thing to metal I even know is Umphrey's and Pantera. All I know is Necro is hilarious sometimes but whenever he does his metal scream sh** it is god awful which is too bad. The guy produces all his own beats and for someone who hates hip hop usually (me) i find the non metal hip hop necro instrumentals sometimes actually quite impressive musically compared to most of what's out there. I appreciate any general distaste for necro in the metal community because he should definitely steer clear and stick to what he is somewhat good at (synth beats and vile yet hilarious lyrics)

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216. RememberMetal? writes:

Cathy: I don't "support" racism anymore than I "support" the sun to shine.

LOL

If this were about the sun you would have been content to leave this thread after your first post, confident that you were in full possession of the facts.

But you're far more passionate for racism than solar bodies. Which is why you linger, trying to manipulate people with opposing views that are as deeply entrenched as your own.

You're entitled to your opinion but you come across as a liar with statements like that.

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217. nsbm still sucks writes:

I have listened to Graveland, but in my opinion there sound is nothing special. There are quit a lot of a bands playing this type of music whithout "pro white" lyrics.

# Aug 24, 2007 @ 12:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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218. Cynic writes:

--------"I noticed you completely ignored the authors and their authorative findings on rcaial matter(Gladye Whitney, Dr. William Schockley, etc.). "

Like you conveniently ignored nearly all of my questions? Instead you seem quite pleased to take a massive tangent to avoid any sort of clash with reality. Although I did ask alot of questions, It was simply because you are making alot of bold statements with no substance. If you re-read my paragraph addressing the author's and brain differences in races I did not ignore their findings (I did a little reading on them), but I found them irrelevant to the wider argument of racial separation.

----------"What about the violence that is already here in this multiracial society?"

As I have already said, humans are as weak and malicious as they are grand and bright (yet again a link to death metal). The lesser of two evils, for as I said I do not believe in human utopia.

---------------"Is this a denial of the easily demonstrable inordinate media influence Jews have in this country and abroad? I assumed you knew this and that I didn't have to give you a corporate holding list of the actual names of these Jews. Should I provide such a list?

No actually this massive conspiracy of Jewry is quite a foriegn topic. A list would be wholey unmoving and meaningless thanks although I'd be genuinely interested in an example (one that preferably doesn't involve an excessive tangent) of how those of Jewish decent are influencing my life.

"If you like metal, check out Graveland's music."

Don't you find it quite strange you're holding Graveland up on such a pedastal? Surely Burzum, Emperor, Darkthrone, Immortal, Ulver and others are... well widely respected to be to put it bluntly, better? I'm not saying Graveland are band (in fact they're quite good) but coming from someone espousing a need for recognition of eugenics, racial segregation and German utopianism (is that a word?), it just seems altogether ridiculous to be a coincidence. Why am I even saying this? Because I hold those who can separate image and belief from music and truly enjoy the intricacies of metal in very high esteem, while others... are just the rest.

Some guy writes - "These people are not academically inclined nor do they care about accuracy."

Well thanks Captain know it all, good to see those with telepathic powers are putting it to good use. -sarcasm ends here-. I'm a second year university student studying for a Bsc Hons in Computer Science. My massive and chronic hangover is a testament to my studentness (though I wish I had a slightly less painful testament).

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# Aug 24, 2007 @ 2:21 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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219. CATHY writes:

CYNIC- I appreciate your ability to discuss and not simply throw ad hominems and invectives at me like some others in here because they dislike any white person who points out how our people are being attacked daily in this country by non-whites. Although this dialogue is better than such inane exchanges, it seems we are having a sort of disconnect. You feel I haven't responded to your questions but I feel you haven't responded to mine either. Therefore I'm pasting here what I wrote earlier:


If you are sincerely looking for sources and evidence regarding the profound and immutable racial differences manifested in a myriad of ways, including the crime stats, I suggest you look into the following authorities on the subject: Dr. Gladye Whitney, Dr. Russell Barton, Prof. Phillipe Rushton, the magnificent writings of Dr. William Shockley,the creator of the transitor (without which you wouldn't be using the computer to spread your anti-white tripe), the former head of the American Anthropological Association Dr. Carlton Coon. These individuals and so many more have published several objective and definitive works on the nature of racial differences, genetics, biology and physiological differences. Oh , I know, please give the typical Jewish TV response now, you know, give me the programmed riposte ""oooh, these are all white supremacist authors, why should we listen to them?". Right? No, the media tells you that the races are the same and the only difference is skin color (!!) (as if you only painted a white man black he would be a black man!). Racial differences are paramount and many, and they go far deeper than skin color. The contortion of the frontal lobe of the hyperthalmus are much more highly developed ON AVERAGE in white Indo-Europeans than in blacks. Do you own research, I'm not going to do your homework for you and list the sundry anthropological and physiological differences (better take a look at the 'racist' scientific medical community and all those 'racist' drugs they make specifically to help black genetic conditions/diseases like sickle cell anemia. I guess the Jew Sumner Redstone that owns MTV didn't tell you about that.
Again, I'm not trying to attack negroes (that is the proper term), I'm simply positing the notion for which there is ample evidence, that multiracial societies dont work.
BRANDEDCHF: Blacks didn't invent guitar. The other person on here who wrote that is mistakingly referring to semites not sub-saharan blacks in Africa. Had he done his/her research he would have found that such a claim is preposterous but in the world of incessant Jewish Fed media disinformation blacks, who had never even invented the wheel on the African continent, somehow have been miraculously guiding European societies and teaching us about robotics, asymetry, laser technology, pressure systems, and physics (lol).

The point is that homogeneous societies are far more peaceful and progressive than multiracial ones, this is demonstrated by the volume of evidence proving it. Integration has brought us nothing. Zero. And look at the pain we have here in the U.S.? Can't we dream of a better way? Or are we obligated to abide by the MTV/popular culture, Jewish promoted concept of "Our Strength is Our Diversity".
Again , you totally ignore the massive numbers of whites attacked particularly by blacks every year in this country. This is not "white supremacist" propaganda, it is fact. Look at the FBI's Uniform Crime Stats (actually these stats are biased against whites because they include Mestizos in the white crime category), and you will see categorically that blacks commit far more crime than people of European descent.

It's simply not working. Think about it, it's not. No amount of biased programs like affirmative action and EEOC will make it work. This has all been tried for DECADES. Egalitarianism/multiracialism is a disaster, a terrible failuer causing pain and suffering for all involved. It's time for something new.

I will respond directly yet again to another of your points: You mention this word Jewish "conspiracy". I did not use this word "conspiracy", you did. Jewish power is so omnipresent ,so evidently clear and in the open, it's not a simple "conspiracy". It's right in your face. It's in your papers, inb your magezines, in your Hollywood, on your TV, in your schools and manifested in your Zionist Occupied Government. Without Jewish involvement there would be no war in Iraq for example. The war is not about "oil", it's about securing Israel's borders. All of the primary advisors to Bush that pushed us into this war were Jews almost exclusively.

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220. Cathy writes:

You commented on Graveland. Yes, Burzum, Emperor and Ulver are great, I enjoy their stuff alot, esp. Burzum, but Graveland is very unique among them. His style is much more cultivated, much more unique and original. My point was that the leftist-leaning Metal Mags purposely ban mention of Graveland (unless in a derogatory fashion) because of his beliefs in white heritage and pride. But yet these same magazines, Terrorizer and Revolver praise openly Marxist bands with an obvious agenda like The Haunted, Misery Index and Rage Against Machine. There is censorship, there is an agenda. The agenda is pro "diversity" and anti-white very often, just like in movies and newspapers.

You want more examples? This past week in Germany a gang of white youth responded to verbal insults from a gang of Indians and ended up beating them up. The whites didn't kill them or stab them, they simply roughed them up a bit. Nothing different than what happens in thousands of bars across the U.S. every friday night. The German media (primarily Jewish opwned there like here), has been making a national fuss and whining about "immigrants rights" and how awful it was that these German youths beat up these non-whites. Did you know that everyday in Germany whites are attacked by non-whites? That these non-whites have raped thousands of German women? Where is the NATIONAL media coverage, where is the concern for the white people attacked and murdered? These indians simply got a few bruises and its headline news. White people are murdered and its a footnote in the back page. That IS media bias. That's just one style of media bias. Race is a factor.

This is the reality here and there.

It's sickening and I want no part of it. The U.S. is falling apart. Please think about this.

Thanks-

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221. hatebreeder writes:

You started talking about a sh**ty band and ended up talking about racism! what's wrong with you guys? Just listen to metal and have fun!

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222. cathy ain't a headbanger writes:

What you write abuot the situation in Germany is shows that your knowledge is not good at all.
A group of racist skinheads beat up a group of indian people. These people didn't rape anybody or sold drugs or offend others. They were to the wrong time at the wrong place. It was a poor example for idiot and ignorant racists like you are cathy. Especially that "normal" peope didn't had the courage to help them...and because of people like this guys like this graveland whitey don't get his balls cut, like it should be. I guess this human garbage [the nazi skins] likes graveland too. If you have no clou about a topic, just shut up.
I'm from germany and the number of whites beeing attacked by none whites here is as high as everywhere else.

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223. Cynic writes:

Well you repasted that sections but to my count there was only 2 question marks, and " look at the pain we have here in the U.S.? Can't we dream of a better way?" which doesn't really seem anything but rhetorical. What questions haven't I answered? I thought I covered what I thought of eugenical research pretty well in post 218.

-------"Again , you totally ignore the massive numbers of whites attacked particularly by blacks every year in this country. "

No, again I think I covered that ok in the 3rd paragraph in post 205. I don't think this has anything to do with racial deficits or the like, rather history (enslavement and subsequent predjudice), environment, poverty etc. I don't believe these stats depend on race either, rather who is the minority race who have had a massive historical disadvantage from european influence (such as here in NZ with the Maori, a similar racial parallel to America).

"The point is that homogeneous societies are far more peaceful and progressive than multiracial ones"

And yet those same societies cause external war and hate on a massive scale, and as I said earlier simply result in further internal schisms once they have expanded (as we see in the 'peaceful' religion Christianity). War as we know leads to massive technological advancement, cohesiveness, employment etc. That doesn't mean we would wish an alien race to descend in warfare to advance the human race.

Now note from my previous posts the unleft '?'s, (and the topic of the thread at that)
- Any quotes or material what-so-ever to support the fact a purposely Jewish rapper was put on the SotU tour to force black culture on white youth?
-Any material supporting the claim Terrorizer won't publish articles on Graveland because of their beliefs?

And I'm simply rejected the idea metal has any "structural similarities" to white folk music. I mean, no more (possibly alot less) than it has structural similarities to black jazz music. Classical music though? As I've said before, very much so. And black metal is probably much more so influenced by heritage (in famous cases anyway). Oh yes and Burzum, probably tied with Emperor for my fav black metal band, Emperor probably just tips ahead because of my love for technical/progressive metal.

Hatebreeder - A typical mindless response from those who prefer to ignore reality.

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# Aug 24, 2007 @ 7:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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224. Cynic writes:

Oh and your example, yes I'm actually sure there is a bias towards . No doubt it is a sensitive subject seeing as how it's only 60 years since the WW2. And if you ask me they should. Why? Not because of race or religion, but because of numbers. The media is a powerful way to help out the minority - When a large pharmacutical company f***s over some old man, the media steps in. Because court's of law and such may fall to the weight of money, but the nothing crushes quite like the will of the people brought on by the media. And so yes, I do think it is imperitave the media stays untainted, though I personally have no reason to believe people of Jewish decent are controlling my life in anyway (Again, I'm not an American).

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225. deathbringer writes:

I'm sure glad this thread will be coming to a close soon. Not to discourage anyone who has actually been civil in their discussions, but this topic has gone a bit off topic and into territory that is touchy to a lot of people.

# Aug 24, 2007 @ 9:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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226. dispositionondiscrimination writes:

And um... Cathy if you're going to talk about black metal, how about talk about some REAL black metal like some of the originators such as Mercyful Fate or Bathory. Fuk this Graveland sh** - from what I read in other posts, sounds like some racist sh** to me and to 'thinking about this' - hey buddy, you know nothing of me "academically" nor "accurately" so you can eat a dik. Fuk all you hypocrites and bigot b*tches who want to do nothing more than talk a bunch of sh**. Eat a dik and choke on it. To the rest of you who deserve respect. Peace.

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