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An Overview of Our Spam Prevention Efforts and Moderation Queue

Comment spam plagues the web and as Metalunderground.com has grown in popularity, it has become more prevalent here. I don't know WHY anyone would post comment spam here, as it is clearly stated that HTML will be removed. There are no links allowed, so no search engine value, no pagerank value, and I've even isolated comments from the page content so that they do not influence the Google Adsense ads (there were a bunch of pharmacy ads showing due to the spam).

I could go on a major rant about comment spam - because deleting spam and coding preventative measures takes up time that I could be doing more interesting things and improving Metalunderground.com. But it suffices to say that I've put measures in place to prevent (or at least curb) comment spam from showing up. Behind the scenes, there is a moderation queue. Only flagged messages require moderation. The goal is for 99% of legitimate comments to be posted immediately. Those comments containing links or URLs are the most likely to require moderation. Once our admins have viewed those comments flagged for moderation, they will approve the legitimate comments (and delete the spam), and those comments will show up within the thread based on the time they were submitted.

There is also a level at which a comment may be rejected outright (if it is SO obviously spam), in order to save us some time by moderating fewer comments.

I'm sure there will be some fine-tuning to do on the algorithm as well as the user-feedback, so please bear with us. I just wanted to make you all aware of the measures in place so you can be extra aware of any error messaged that might show up in the comment form once you've submitted your comment (I know the page does not scroll down there to see them immediately).

You should be able to go about posting comments as usual and be relatively unaffected. If you do run into problems, please send an email via our contact form. My goal, as always, is to minimize the impact of such efforts on legitimate participants. (The CAPTCHA I implemented for a short while last year was pulled because it sucked for commenters).

OK, enough of the technical talk, and back to the metal news, spam-free I hope. \m/

PS - as I fine-tune the spam filters, I will also be adding an auto-ban feature, so please don't "play" with the anti-spam features or otherwise waste our time. We enjoy bringing you metal news, not administering b.s.

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1. mimic writes:

cool, thanks for all the good work :)

# Jun 16, 2007 @ 7:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. Red_Chord writes:

Yep, I know it's hard to do but thanks for all the time and efforts you guys put in this website. It's awesome and brings the metal community together...

# Jun 16, 2007 @ 9:29 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. RememberMetal? writes:

The staff brings it's absolute best when it comes to the site but it's Deathbringers baby. The amount of technical and creative effort he puts into MU must be staggering. If anyone deserves your gratitude -- it's him.

Now Playing: Pig Destroyer - "Lesser Animal"

# Jun 16, 2007 @ 3:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Skript writes:

So does this mean that all pro korn comments will be deleted too? :P

# Jun 17, 2007 @ 6:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. psythe writes:

^hahahahahah :)

no.

# Jun 17, 2007 @ 8:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Red_Chord writes:

Good one !!!

And it's certainly a baby that has grown a lot since the begining. I guess Deathbringer shows us every day how metal he is and how much he loves this music...thanks !!

# Jun 17, 2007 @ 9:11 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Mr. Noogieburger writes:

So does this mean no more Noogieburger?

# Jun 17, 2007 @ 11:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. coldiem writes:

You should work on an immaturity filter too, to remove posts such as "METLICA SUX F-this, F-that. GAY GAY" and so on. LOL. People on this site spend too much time defending their posts against idiots who think they are tough posting flames on the internet. Yes, they could be ignored, but personally I have a hard time ignoring somebody who is going to call me names and insult me for no good reason. In my opinion, this is just another form of spam.

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 1:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Red_Chord writes:

No man ,it's too entertaining to get rid of it, that's the spirit of the posts, otherwise it would be too lame...

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 7:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Mr. Noogieburger writes:

Hey, none of you a$$holes answered Mr. Noogieburger's question.

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 7:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Red_Chord writes:

And none will !!!

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 9:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. ...Just Another Number... writes:

I'm personally for deleteing posts that have nothing to do with the article where they are posted at and possibly putting a small forum of some sort on here for the kids to get all their lame (And more often than not) unorigenal insults out of their under-developed frontal lobes, out at... but yeah, much appreciation towards the staff for workin on the spam problems.

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 10:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Mr. Noogieburger writes:

Red, Mr. Noogieburger does not like you. And when Mr. Noogieburger does not like you, you're f***ED with a capital F.

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 10:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. MindSlavor writes:

then why did you spell it with a lowercase f ??

# Jun 20, 2007 @ 10:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Diamond Oz writes:

Is this affecting the news aswell 'cause lately it seems that there's buggerall news for like two days and loads turn up suddenly

# Jun 21, 2007 @ 7:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Red_Chord writes:

LOl, Mindslavor your were quick to see that one. About the post of just another number, that's a great idea...

# Jun 21, 2007 @ 8:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. MindSlavor writes:

Not to our knoweledge that it is affecting the news, but I will look into it ASAP.

# Jun 21, 2007 @ 10:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Mr. Noogieburger writes:

I dunno, Mind.

# Jun 21, 2007 @ 10:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. deathbringer writes:

I'll come clean and say that I was on vacation for the last week. The rest of the staff did their best to fill in for me and other than the one day without news posted, I think they did a nice job. Seeing how we're getting 20+ spam messages a day, I could not leave the site unprotected for a full week while I had no internet access to oversee things, so I stayed up til 2am (while I should have been packing) to finish up the measures I had planned to already have in place.

The spam protection seems to be working very well so far. But it doesn't stop these idiots from continuing to try to submit spam comments. Just as they were too lazy to notice their links being stripped, they are too lazy to notice that their comments are not going through at all and we're still getting a bunch of spam comments to remove. The nice part is that you all don't have to see them anymore and they won't get in the way of actual discussion.

I'll also be migrating the site over to a new server and host shortly, so if there is any further reduction in postings for the next week, it should be resolved by July. I'm glad to see some of you read so regularly to notice that we missed a day of news in the first place! Thanks for reading and for your patience.

# Jun 23, 2007 @ 10:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. Stephen writes:

\m/ Spam Prevention \m/

But more importantly...

\m/ Metalunderground!!! \m/

HORNS UP!

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 3:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Murderface writes:

^^I guess everything IS bigger in Texas.

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 4:05 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. CrawfordTexasJingoJango writes:

^^^Nice one. But apparently, things are bigger in Oklahoma...or at least they THINK they are.

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 5:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. Red_Chord writes:

Wow, such hatred Crawford, it's the first time I really see you so mad at someone...I'm staying out of your way.

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 6:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. godlike writes:

good job guys....all of ya..!!!
but my hats off to Deathbringer...!!! \m/


what am I hearing now...? Cage - Walk on Water

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 8:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. MindSlavor writes:

Im from Dallas, Texas originally, thank you.

Deathbringer writes:
I'll come clean and say that I was on vacation for the last week. The rest of the staff did their best to fill in for me and other than the one day without news posted, I think they did a nice job.

This is the biggest crock of sh** ive ever heard of. Eternity posted like 11, I posted the other nearly 90, maybe more I didnt count. No one pitched in to help with spam abuse, I did all of that, and not 1 person even submitted a review or anything. Not to mention the moderation of all of the threads on here and containing the idiot filth that the spam filter doesnt pick up. I didnt post on the 1 day because I work in the sun all god damn day and get tired.

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 9:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. deathbringer writes:

Yes, you carried the news posting most days - I meant collectively.

# Jun 25, 2007 @ 11:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. psythe writes:

Congratulations to Diamond Oz, welcome to the team, buddy. Maybe MindSlavor will be able to relax a little now :P

Pity I can't gotta keep working my arse off for another week... I should be back in full force after that, though :) Congrats, again.

# Jun 27, 2007 @ 9:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. Red_Chord writes:

I am super happy for Diamond Oz. I respect this guy so much and his opinions are always very well said and he is very polite...congrats Diamond.

# Jun 27, 2007 @ 9:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Kick Ass Duke writes:

You can't get rid of the "This sucks, you suck, u r gay" posts. I love those. Thats half the fun of reading the news.

# Jun 27, 2007 @ 9:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Public Execution writes:

^^^^^Those kinda posts can get frusterating after awhile if they are in the way of a good discussion. Internet flame wars can be funny, but for the most part they are a waste of time.

# Jun 27, 2007 @ 9:52 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. LiquidMetal.77 writes:

hey, congrats to Oz. post something, i wanna see you with blue posts.

# Jun 28, 2007 @ 4:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. Stephen writes:

Internet flame wars are not a waste of time ONLY if people are halfway creative when they insult each other. And I admit sometimes they aren't. But if people put a little thought into trashing someone it can be very entertaining.

# Jun 28, 2007 @ 7:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. POISONPROPHET writes:

Please delete my account, I will not be coming back to this website again, there's just too much immature bullsh** going on here. It's really f***ing sad because I love this site and enjoy it's articles but, it seems that you can't post a comment without being "attacked" by some prepubescent punk trying to be cool. Most of the readers who post comments here seem pretty cool and stay on topic. I really dig they're comments and humor ,but from time to time, a$$holes pop-up and personally attack those of us who are trying to leave article-related comments about our favorite bands. I expect to be "attacked" if I slam another readers favorite band/bands, that's why I leave an apology to anyone I've offended, but lately, myself and other metalheads seem to be getting slammed for little or no reason by f***ers who pop-in just to piss someone off with idiotic insults. I truly hope this website continues to grow and thrive, I honestly do. Deathbringer and his staff have been doing a kick-ass job, and I really hate to leave, but what's the point in visiting this site just to leave it p***ed-off? To Metal Underground and all its readers, I wish you the best, have a good one, later - Poisonprophet a.k.a. [-]devilman[-]

# Jun 29, 2007 @ 1:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. LiquidMetal.77 writes:

^^^^^hey, leaving this site means youre letting those lil f*ckers win. stay strong and dont leave. dont forfeit and let them run around even more on this site. all you need is an intelligent insult and a good comeback. for the most part they arent intelligent either way. i find it kinda fun when i get to flame an annoying prick.

# Jun 29, 2007 @ 1:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Murderface writes:

I myself have thought of leaving this site because I too am sick of the immature bullsh** going on here, but you know what guys? I'm going to stay, just because I like you.

# Jun 29, 2007 @ 3:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Diamond Oz writes:

Thing is, most of the immature posters only post a few times then we never see them again. The MU community is what makes the site worth coming on to every day.. that and the great news of course!

# Jun 29, 2007 @ 3:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. MindSlavor writes:

In response to the last post that has suddenly dissapeared, the answer is " Me apparently "

# Jun 29, 2007 @ 10:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address

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