Metallica's Trujillo On How Heavy The New Album Is
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Greece's Rock Hard magazine conducted an interview with METALLICA bassist Robert Trujillo on May 22, 2007. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow (translated from Greek):
Rock Hard Greece: Could you describe the new album's sound? Lars Ulrich, just before the release of "St. Anger", had — very accurately — described it as raw, ugly and unpolished. Can you come up some adjectives for the new album?
Trujillo: "I would say that this is album is dynamic, heavy, groovin' and you'll probably be excited to know that there will be guitar solos on it! In addition, Lars remembered to tune his snare drum properly this time! For me, this album incorporates part of the dynamic and character of 'Master of Puppets', as well as the melodic style that people liked in the 'black album,' as far as the melodies are concerned. As for the general music style, much of the current material is groovy, heavy, dynamic and surely interesting. I would say that it's different than 'St. Anger' — in a good way, of course."
METALLICA lead guitarist Kirk Hammett recently told Austrian web site Krone.at that he thinks the band's upcoming album is "the best album we've put out in, say, fifteen years." Hammett added that the record contains "just a really spectacular range of songs. This time we're not afraid to refer to our past music in order to create future music. People will see that we've kind of embraced our old vocabulary again and are using that vocabulary to express new things...I think with this album we're definitely going a little more back into our roots."
Hammett also hinted that the new record features "a lot of really, really fast songs, a whole lot of really heavy stuff. We changed our approach to writing the songs...There's a lot of changes that we've made, but I believe that they are all for the better."
The guitarist said that while the band had also written some "slower and melodic" tunes, he wasn't sure if any would make the final track listing.
METALLICA has been working on the follow-up to 2003's "St. Anger" with producer Rick Rubin since earlier this spring.
The band will now head out on a European festival run before returning to complete the album later this summer. An early 2008 release is planned.
Source: Blabbermouth
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I don't even know what to expect from this band anymore.
How one can go from the timeless perfection of MOP to St. Anger is so astonishing I can't believe the same core musicians (minus the great and powerful Cliff) made both records....
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This sounds both promising and not. Grooving? Could mean different things to different people, if they tune back to standard E it means no lazy rolling D riffs. What they really need is the classical influence of Burton again. However, the most important thing will be Hetfields voice which I unfortunately think is past it, not the actually vocals but the vocalization. He's ground himself into a routine oh "Woa-oo woahs" and "Yeah-ee yeahs", instead of the desperate, youthful emotion of the past.
Tell you the truth his voice is half the reason Metallica are so big, every day I listen to bands like Xentrix or Sacred Reich and think, man these could have been huge if only they'd had a vocalist as... true as Hetfield.
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I agree with you Cynic. I haven't even had the desire to see Metallica live because everything I've seen online and heard live is just as you describeon Hetfield's vocal delivery. It's just not the same even if they were to play all old material. And since I saw Metallica play for over 2 hours by themselves in support of the Black album, I really have no desire to ruin that memory (the subsequent tour with GNR almost did, but it was different enough because it was a stadium setting).
Yeah it is pretty amazing how Metallica made some of the best hard rock/metal albums of all time ...
eg M.O.P, justice and ride the lightning and then go on to make st.anger and load and reload....
I cant understand how they cant manage to make a decent album they must have it in them somewhere....
Metallica was king when I was in high school but has done nothing but follow the trend since. Mid 90's grunge craze? See Load/Reload. Raw, no solos, no brains New Metal a few years back? See St. Anger. Now people are remembering the greatness of thrash. It's making a comeback with Megadeth's new album opening at 8 and Machine Head at 54 in the US. Articles everywhere on Mustaine, Shadows Fall, Machine Head, and Lamb of God amongst others. Unless this is a TRULY GREAT album I'm afraid they will forever be following the trend. They will be the parody they talk about in their movie, the king nothing they've sung about.
Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Metallica lost me a long time ago. They could advertise the CD with a free full tank of gasoline, a bag of chips, and a free keychain, and I still wouldn't give 1/3 of a shxt. I don't know about you guys, but once someone gets three or four good hard laughs at MY expense, I stop associating myself with them. But, whatever! They wouldn't even be famous now if shxtloads of people didn't run out and buy St. Anger. If people would quit buying shxt just because it says "Metallica" on it, maybe they would be trying a little harder. I don't believe a single thing in those interviews. Lars was talking about some middle-eastern sounding shxt, and then Kirk comes back and says they're going back to their roots. Something with those statements is wrong. One of them is a liar. A very, very wealthy liar.
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I think the album will be groovy, heavy, dynamic. I know Metallica's classic and all, but I've utterly lost respect for their music since their last album. I can't tell you if the new album will be good or bad until I hear it.
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I'm a fan of Old School Metallica, but they said that St. Anger was going to heavy....fast....and agressive. It was really just depressing. I saw them in 2004 and they know that St. Anger sucked, that they only played the title track and the rest were all the old trash metal tunes. Now, if Rick Rubin can still make Slayer as heavy as they are today, then maybe he can work a miracle out for Metallica. Let's cross our fingers on this one. There's really no other option for Metallica anymore, S.S Metallica is sinking very slowly.
Its the word "Groovy" that has me worried. I heard the song that leaked last summer and it was half good and half bad, the intro and the mid section/guitar solo were bloody brilliant (reminiscent of AJFA era), but the groove thing (which the song had) is so overdone. But Im anxious to hear more.
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I wouldn't - Post-thrash Metallica? No thanks. Groovy usually equates to simplisitc. Which more than not equates to boring songwriting. How ever I doubt Trujillo cares about genres, and it's just a vague adjective.
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I think Rubin has had time to bend the bands direction to some extent since last summer in terms of "tuning and vocabularly" which is where the band is suffering most. Structure, inter-instrumental dynamic and the absence of solos have been trouble spots as well ofcourse.
The band aren't screaming from the roof tops about how great the album is but they also seem genuinely pleased with it. Particularly Kirk, though I've not read anything from James yet. I doubt we'll have a timeless classic but we may be in for a pleasent surprise.
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I think the new album is gonna be awesome. Cant wait to hear it. All signs point to a return to the old heights.
Just for the record for O-matron and the others in regards to Trujillo using the word 'groovy'. . . Trujillo said exactly the same thing in an interview about St Anger about 2 weeks after he joined the band and i quote. . . "It's groovin, it's groovin hard." I think he uses that term fairly loosley guys, i wouldnt be worried.
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I can't say anything about the new album, I must listen to the damn thing first!!! Basically, you all should wait and listen before trying to be a f***ing oracle or sth. I think the band knows that St.Anger sucked, but apart from that, who the f**** knows what they will do next? All of their albums are good, even load and re-load, but the last ones (load, reload and st.anger), they just don't fit in the whole "metallica world" or "metallica vibe" of the first recordings. End of story. Basically, I will buy the new CD and I will continue to "associate myself with them"(comment #13), because this is music we are talking about, not business. If you want to stop hearing a band, do it because you don't like their music, not because they are "very, very wealthy liars"(comment #13).
What sucks is that now, at this stage in their career, there's very little pressure as far as selling albums goes. They don't need to sell records to eat anymore. They don't need fans to help spread the word anymore. They're gonna go down as the KISS of our generation because, admit it, they were best when they actually were fighting to get their crowds, and they actually had to TRY. Now, at this stage in the game, they have to find ways to gain NEW younger fans while still remaining faithful to the diehards. I'm sure the new album will, at the very least, be worth listening to, but I can't get my hopes up again. If a chick fxcks me over one or twice, depending on the offense, it's over, and I look at this no differently. If Metallica was my best friend, I have been cheated on, betrayed, lied to, and decieved. But I've also been moved, impressed, flattered, and motivated. I'd love to be able to say "Fxck Metallica" and be truthfully fed up with it, but, frankly, there's been too many good times to pass them up. No matter how old I get, there's still a part of me that wants and needs to hear Metallica, and the new release is no exception, but after St. Anger, it feels like I've paid them money for their worst work, which is what I did. What Metallica should do, is if someone bought St. Anger, they should recall it, and everyone who sends their copy in gets a refund. It's not like they'd go broke! If they could find some way to regain all the fans they lost, they just might go down as heroes, after all. But then again, they did write Master of Puppets...
Metallica's been my favorite band since i was six, but their tank is runnin' on empty. I would give either of my balls for another kill em all but
I'm not going to hold my breath. As sad as it is to say, I think their finished and the only way rthe next album will be any good is if the creative control goes back to Hetfield and Lars shuts his f***ing mouth. Either way at least they gave us five of the best albums ever made, and "Live sh**" kicked major a$$ too.
Oh, and to post #35, mr. librarian, please note my respone to you on post #17. This will, in effect, negate the wealthy liars theory, by SEVERING the tie between MY MONEY and bands that DON'T APPRECIATE IT.
If you decide to give them more money, you deserve to buy the worst record ever made. I hope when you lay down that $15.99, you listen to the most despicable recording ever laid to disc, because you deserve it.
You've heard the parable about the fool and his money, right?
Fool.
first of all its Rick f*** Rubin of course the album is going to be good, he is one of the best producers of our time, cash, incubus, beasties, so many others, plus you add metallica which is one of the best thrash bands ever? i smell a very very good album coming.. just as long as that bass player stays off his surf board, frigging loser.
You guys baffle me. i swear its a trend to hate metallica, if they release 10 Kill Em' Alls they are just another thrash band getting no where. I have my much Respects for bands like Tankard and such, but Bands who dont experiment.. dont get anywhere.. Its funny. Metallica have been innovative through out their career's hence why you guys expect so much from them. we wont be talking about metallica with all this Hyper if they were to release 10 Kill em all's, Ride the lightning and master of puppets.
Im glad this is how it has turn out, because it has made us understand that those albums were true CLASSICS.
so losers like you, your kinda wasting your breathe in slating them!!
Yes im not a fan of whatever they released over the Mid 90s till present. But who cares, all i have to do is whip out Ride the lightning and it makes me headbang. the end!
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Then again, there aren't many thrash bands whose experimentations went well. Metallica had the 3 classic albums in a row and didn't change a whole lot. I think I could handle 10 RtLs haha. But I agree, all the Metallica hating on this site is ridiculous when you consider it's coming from the fact they were once awesome.
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post#18 says "Now, if Rick Rubin can still make Slayer as heavy as they are today, then maybe he can work a miracle out for Metallica" damn dude but sorry to enlighten you, slayer is the new metallica and this trend is starting to affect real good bands wtf is going on with eveyone sucking, oh and now anthrax wll get corey taylor from sh!tknot to do vocals what the hell, can anyone tell me whats happening to these once great bands turning into pure crap?
they were great when you were sh1tting in your diapers...and having your mom wipe your mouth cause u were too retarded to eat properly....FACE IT PEOPLE...SELLOUTICA IS DEAD...THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PUT OUT MEDIOCORE CD'S CAUSE THE STUPID TRENDYS WHO HAVE EMBRACED SELLOUTICA WILL SUCK IT UP THROUGH STRAWS IF NEED BE....WHAT METAL NEEDS IS FOR NEW BLOOD TO BRING FORTH EXCELLENT METAL TO THE MASSES AGAIN...
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Too many people (myself included) take it personally that Metallica have released several terrible records for 15 years.
Granted, their "evolution" has lead to a deadend but by going back to their signature tuning, permiting guitar solos and putting as much distance between themselves and St. Anger as possible (the band are now using the familiar: "We HAD to make that cd" phrase) they allow for a little hope.
Metallica lost me with Load and I've never looked back.
But they have it in them to make a good record. I know this because I still get goosebumps from Call of the Ktulu, a mild rush from the first solo of MOP's title track and Dyers Eve still sends my feet into double kicks. I can not argue with music that causes an involuntary reaction.
Whether they make a good record is another rmatter. Buried Somewhere within their aging minds lies the sincerety, anger and sense of purpose of old. Like a muscle the band has allowed to atrophy. I'm crossing my fingers but not holding my breath.
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quoting remembermetal here......
"But they have it in them to make a good record. I know this because I still get goosebumps from Call of the Ktulu, a mild rush from the first solo of MOP's title track and Dyers Eve still sends my feet into double kicks. I can not argue with music that causes an involuntary reaction."
some people just cant let selloutica go....they want to hold on to it for some strange reason...they lost millions of fans over the yrs due to sh1tty cd's, lars suing every1 he can, kirk always looking gay, and james.....well, i wont smacktalk james....he just needs to smack the rest of the band into some fukin sense and then make an album that destroys anything they have recorded to date..until then, selloutica will continue to drown in their own useless music that has become a mockery of their former selves...all selloutica do is talk, talk, talk about how this cd is gonna kik a$$, our next cd will kill all...whatever u pansy a$$ has-beens..retire b4 u die onstage trying to relive your old glory, which by the way, you have have destroyed....true!!!
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nope...but thats a damn good song!!!!.....old skool thrash...talk all the smack u want...i dont care...everything metallica did after and justice for all never compared to the the 4 cds..as muscicians age, their music does too, but to sit there and continue to hype everything that you know sux is bs....so, continue to smacktalk me...i laugh at it...but i laugh even harder at SELLOUTICA!!!!...for they are the downward slide of life...but, they all have huge pockets loaded with money....lol....!!...
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I thought Through the Never is a f***ing beautiful song, and I think people opinions here sometimes are ridiculously childish. If Through The Never had been the last song on AJFA you'd probably be all praising it. I'm still bemused at the "Selloutica" thing, they don't owe us to stay in one musical direction, just like we don't have to buy their albums. Something tells me you're just a little hurt.
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No, it's gonna suck. Their drive is gone. They don't have to play to eat anymore. That's why they'll never make another MoP or RtL. And it is a trend to hate Metallica, only because Metallica has made a trend of making sh**ty albums. Has anyone heard Metallica live lately? Hetfield can't even sing the damn songs anymore! He sounds like a dying dog. And check to see if Lars has kept up on all his fills. They're too damn old to even play the old sh**. What the hell makes you think they're gonna write something like that again? They tried to be "heavy metal" again, and St. Anger is what you got. Now you want more, and Metallica is going to keep trying to be what they can't be. Important and refreshing. You're all suckers. Metallica HAD my loyalty, even after Load, Reload, and S&M. But St. Anger was it!
And if Through the Never was the last song on AJFA, it'd sound shxttier because there'd be no bass mixed into it, because that's how Metallica treats the new guys. And if it were track #10, I'd turn the CD off after Dyers' Eve.
Your heroes are shriveling up and dying and no matter how much you argue, it's not going to change anything. You all know they don't have the chops anymore, and it's hard to not see that. But I guess when the only albums in your collection are Metallica records, I imagine it's pretty hard to know any better. :)
Yo man. CrawfordTexasJingojango, lets not go into thrash collections here ok, im a collector of old school thrash albums, its safe to say, when you do a review on these albums, Metallica will always come close to the Top with their 4 classic albums. even black album was a good heavy metal album. a lot of so "called" thrashers are faggot narrow minded pricks anyway, its like yeah im so "COOL" all i listen 2 is thrash lmao..
Yeah so do i:D but i love a bit of variety. Metallica dont have to make every album that sounds like Master of puppets or ride the lightning, if they wanted to, trust me they could lol, because they have done it, so im sure they know the formula, but that would be boring... i love all this Hype about the New album.
again Cynic, i agree with what you said. Metallica are not my fave band, but they have my respect ALWAYS. not many bands can put out what they did in the 80s lol. that deserves respect for life!
through the never is good, dont tread on me is good, my friend of misery is good...but selloutica is no longer the powerhouse they once were...the band let lars go out and make a laughing mockery of themselves..."WE R FROM THE STREETS, AND ALL THAT CRAP, was said yrs ago...well, they turned their backs on the streets by suing every1 that lars could sue...even a lipstick company...over a word he stole in the 1st place...all you loyal fans can stay loyal...no disrespect to you...just pure disrespect to selloutica..
old skool thrash, u say u love all the hype about the new cd....well, when it fails, dont come on here and begin to talk sh1t about how much u hate selloutica then....cause u will be hypicritical...u loyal fans say all us haters will look like fools...well what if its reversed and you loyal selloutica suckups are the fools??!!.....we hate the band cause they have continued to sell crap...
if through the never was on ajfa, then i would still like the song....U R CORRECT, I HAVENT BOUGHT ANY CD AFTER BLACK ALBUM CAUSE THEY ALL SUCKED MAJOR DONKEY BALLS....and i dont expect them to stay in 1 musical direction...just lars need to stop suing people for stupid childish reasons...what a punk b1tch he is...THATS WHY I CALL THEM SELLOUTICA...NO OTHER REASON BUT THE LEGAL BS LARS HAS COST TAXPAYERS OVER THE YRS....FUK LARS AND HIS ENTIRE FAMILY...
Don't get me wrong. I agree with the point that Metallica deserves our respect for making a handful of great albums, but, on the other end of the spectrum, what have they done to KEEP that respect? They think they can release shxt just because they struck gold a few times in the '80s. They've done a lot more to deserve disrespect. I'm not gonna suck their asses just because they wrote MoP. That was mostly Cliff anyways. Three good albums compared to seven sh**ty ones? It's a dumb argument.
And, for the record, they can NOT still do it. They lost their chops when they released "until It Sleeps" as a single. If you think they can still do it, go see them live, or download some newer live shxt. It's a travesty. They're getting too old, and you all know it! Your heroes are dead. Just because they're making a heavy album doesn't mean it's going to be a good album, or even a mediocre album!
You can't teach old dogs new tricks.
Old doesnt even come into the equation, Exodus are old, testament are old, Onslaught are old, so are Xentrix and Sabbat, but they are f***ing thrashing today, so it doesnt matter if ur 20 or 50. and by the way dude, lol wouldnt i hate metallica by now?? St.Anger, load, Reload are not good albums. but i dont hate them..
What about bands like Anthrax and Kreator? through the mid 90s they released rather poor records, dont see u guys dissing them?? its because Metallica created so much respect, that u guys think they are like gods, and expect them 2 create a mind blowing thrash album every time.. its stupid. u need to look out the circle lol.
"What about bands like Anthrax and Kreator? through the mid 90s they released rather poor records, dont see u guys dissing them?? its because Metallica created so much respect, that u guys think they are like gods, and expect them 2 create a mind blowing thrash album every time.. its stupid. u need to look out the circle lol."
well, anthrax never really was all that good, overall..good thrash jams, but musically scott was better in stormtroopers of death...WHO REMEMBERS THEM???...since anthrax was never mentioned b4 thats y we havent talked smack about them....
LISTEN TO LIVE METALLICA! DOWNLOAD FEST 2006. Tell me they can keep up. They fxck up Orion, Battery, Damage Inc., and Disposable Heroes. They can't keep up with it! They think they still have their youth. The only songs they played decently were Fuel and Nothing Else Matters because those songs are for tired biker grandpas who think they're still the shxt. I'm not a liar. Just because they wrote the songs doesn't mean they can still play them. That was 23 years ago! Let it go! Look at the big picture. The only reason they haven't put out all bad albums is because since 1990, they haven't even released an album but every 6 or 7 years! It's like they do that so people forget how bad they're getting! Okay, so if I've gotta suck their asses because they wrote RtL (thanks to Mustaine), then what do I do about the last 17 years of sh**? Out of the 25 or so years they've been around, all but 6 of those years has been impressive. Fxck that. You guys can sucker up to it all you want, but I don't even have the slightest bit of faith over this new record.
And the reason we're not slamming Anthrax or Exodus or Kreator is because no one gives a shxt about them. 85 albums, all sound the same. So what. Not worth my time. Like picking your favorite spaghetti-o out of a big a$$ bowlfull.
Another thing, if emo is screaming about women and being angry over loud nonsensical music, doesn't that make St. Anger emo? I mean by YOUR standards. Wouldn't that mean METALLICA IS NOW AN EMO BAND? Unless people are just hastily labeling things that are new so they have a carefree reason to dislike them. But to me Metallica is no better than the Used. I'd say they're no better than MCR, but that's an insult to MCR.
I think ive proved my point without saying anything lol
And the reason we're not slamming Anthrax or Exodus or Kreator is because no one gives a shxt about them.
That should technically mean you care about metallica, damn.. they must be happy, that such people care so much about them =p. i just enjoy their 80s music, i'm not expecting much from metallica, who can? lol. you are stupid if u do. but if a nice heavy album pops up on the way, then GOOD!..
as for SOD, lmao, were you trying to prove yourself with SOD?? anyone who was a fan of Thrash in the 80s would know that band lool.. there nothing unique , nuclear assault did it, anthrax, harter attack, all did the same.. SOD just made it sound like a joke, which infact was !!.
No, what I meant was that you can name all the sh**ty hairthrash hasbeen bands all you want, and it doesn't fxcking matter because we weren't talking about them. You can't change the topic so you feel on top of it. And now you're trying to tag me as "giving a sh**" about metallica just because I don't give a sh** about kreator or anthrax? What fxcking sense does that make?
Look, I understand because if someone like me came on here and owned my grandpa's favorite band ever, I'd be burning a bit, too. I would be trying to shift things to make the person look like they're saying something they're not. It's okay. You'll all see for yourselves when this rancid pile of sh** is released and you all waste your money on it. I guess I'll see you guys when that happens, so I can issue you all a nice hearty "told ya so". Like you haven't been warned. Only a dumbass will buy this shxt after so many years. You're a damn fool to expect anything sweet. How many chances have they had to release somehting sweet only to release garbage? You all should know better by now, and I don't feel sorry for you. You're all fxcking suckers and you're the reason why Metallica is rolling around in money. Because all you will buy anyting with their name on it. Lunchboxes, shot glasses, shirts, posters, clocks, action figures, belt buckles, bumper stickers, lighters, etc. You idiots deserve to be robbed of your money by four old farts who can't do anything else with their lives. I will continue to laugh at you and I can't wait to hear from all of you when this album comes out because it's going to be shxt, and every shxthead on the planet is going to be buying it. But what sucks is if 4 trillion people bought Load, it would still suck just as hard.
old skool , ok ok....u have proven nothing yourself...so what if sod was a joke band...U R CORRECT...THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY MEANT IT TO BE...BUT I FEEL THEY WERE BETTER THAN A LOT OF 80S THRASH BANDS....WE ALL HAVE OUR CHOICES AS TO WHAT WE LIKE, AND WE CAN COME ON HERE AND DEBATE ALL DAY....IT SEEMS THAT WE, THE SELLOUTICA HATERS, HAVE SET YOU OFF ON THIS QUEST TO PROVE SELLOUTICA IS THE BEST....DAMN, R U THAT FUKING GAY FOR THE BAND OR JUST SUCH A LOYAL FAN THAT NO MATTER WHAT U WILL DEFEND THEM IF THEY SH1T ON THE SIDEWALK AND RUB IT IN YOUR FACE..DUDE, NOONE CARES ABOUT THE 80S ANYMORE...WE R IN THE 21ST CENTURY...80S THRASH CAN STILL KIK A$$, BUT U R TAKING THIS TOO SERIOUSLY..U LOVE THE 80S THRASH...OK...SO WHAT...I LIKE MOST OF IT TOO...BUT IM NOT SITTING HERE MAKING IT ALL LOOK LIKE THERE IS NOTHING BETER THAN 80S THRASH....JUST SAYING THAT SELLOUTICA IS DYING AND WHEN THE DAY COMES I WILL THROW A HUGE PARY TO CELEBRATE THE BURIAL OF CRAPTALLICA, PUKETALLICA, SH1TALLICA, OLDTALLICA, HASBEENTALLICA, ETC, ETC, ETC....
LOL yup :D Znowhite are awesome, but vocals aint as strong as detente. ive got Znowhites org pressing of Act of god,
come on man, did u also think u were going 2 catch me out? lol. Im a CD collector for a lot of thrash bands lol so theres not much point in testing me
Who cares if i buy it? if its sh**, its sh**. goes into my collection lol. also if u read, i did say i dont expect much from metallica, but it doesnt give me the right to diss them so highly. i enjoy my music, but at the same time.. i will check out bands from the past and see what kinda albums they are releasing, and metallica happens to be one of them. ,lol mate, if u wanna be bitter and twisted about metallica, go ahead man... im sure they dont give 2 sh**s what u think lol!.u aint written anything too memorable :P
To CrawfordTexasJingoJango, I sam them last year playing the entire album MOP and they did it without a mistake and they playd every song faster than the last 16 years. If you only see them live on the internet it's not the f***ing same. You really don't know sh** how they are live today.
i loved that album..act of god....EXCELLENT JAMS!!!!...U R CORRECT, THEY DONT CARE WHAT I SAY...AND I WILL SMACKTALK THEM TILL THEY DIE 1ST OR I DIE 1ST...i wasnt testing i was asking...c u take this too seriously...relax out man..we all come on here and voice our "OPINIONS"...
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I just don't get it. I think their should be seperation between respecting a persons music and respecting a person. Didn't like Load? Fine, but don't come on here spouting "Lars is ghey lol!!111". We all know Metallica have sucked hard the last 10 years, I don't think anyone's disputing that. But that doesn't mean I don't hope the next album isn't enjoyable, what sort of damn masochist wants that? Chance of it being an classic? Bout 5%. Chance of it being good, worth my money to buy? Bout 40%. Chance of it being average-to-bad? 55%. Chance of it being any worse than St. Anger? Zero.
Point is I think metal is in a terrible state today, the number of real new artists I like can be counted on both hands. I don't see why I should not be looking forward to, or be insulted for looking forward to my favourite band of all time (tied with Cynic) new album. If you really don't like them, how bout the day it comes out you go buy a Rigor Mortis album, then you'll be happy as hell.
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I've agreed with Cynic to one extent or another over a great many things..but his statement in post 82 (especially the brilliant percentages) rings most true.
Though I wouldn't call Metallica a favorite band of mine (too many let downs for entirely too long) I still admire them and their their first 5 (particularly the "holy trinity") albums. I refuse to come into this new album closed minded.
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Anything of their first self titled or Freaks EP brandedcfh420, but particularly 'Wizard of Gore', 'Condemed to Hell' and 'Shroud of Gloom'. Sort of death/thrash but also really melodic in a powerful energetic way (not the cliche Gothenburg way). Cheers RM?, sometimes I feel like I'm speaking at a wall in some threads. I pretty much grew up with loving Metallica, and have learnt at least half their catalog on guitar so even a bad album would give me a little nostalgic joy.
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Rigor Mortis are kick ass. their self-titled album is by far the best.
Cynic made some f***ing awesome music, Borderline with Death/Jazz. prog, very sweet.. Although, my fave band of all time is Death, i owned everything of chuck schuldiners.
Still doesnt mean i dont like metallica:P, why hate, and remember metallica for the poor albums they have done? why not remember and respect metallica for what they did for thrash!!!!!...
Hey did anyone else hear the song that leaked last year, Im told there were two but I only heard one of them (it was like 10 Minutes long). It was not a terrible song, parts of it were alittle too much like st anger for my tastes, but some parts made me hopeful, I read somewhere that a second new song was played live and im curious to hear other peoples opinions about that one.
Cynic, they were alright I guess, not my fave but a couple of my friends really dug them. I did like veil of Maya and Im but a wave to.
Im perosnally looking forward to the new Metallica album, if for no other reason than pure curiousty of what it will sound like. Like almost everyone else on this site, I loved 3 albums from Metallica, and the others had their moments (even St anger had a few) but for the most part, were a bit of a let down.
so Im going to hope for the best (Justice/Puppets/lightning) and prepare for the worst (reload/st anger).
But if its old school thrash your looking for wait until the new Municipal waste comes out in July.
Word!
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Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me,
Callin me, all the time like blondie
Check out my chrissy behind
It's fine all of the time.
What else is in the teaches of peaches?
Like sex on the beaches. huh? what?
f*** the pain away. f*** the pain away.
p.s. it will be load with shredding. no massive improvements mixed in a sour batch with james adopted stoke inflicted elvis impersonations.
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I didn't like Cynic the first time I heard them, took me a couple of spins and I was hooked. Oh, and I hope Municipal Waste make the small leap to a more thrash less crossover sound cuz I'm really digging their stuff. Oh and Old skool thrash, yep Death is probably my second fav behind Cynic and Metallica.
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I heard that one of the dudes from Cynic went on to write theme songs for televisions shows the only one I can remmebr was "that 70's show" but i think there might have been others. when that CD came out my friends forced me to listen to it over and over. Damn thats starting to seem like a LOOONG time ago.
Death was pretty good. I did like Human, I forget the name of one of their songs but it had this wicked guitar part during the chorus that sounded alot like Maiden (my Favorite).
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Death are one of the most important metal bands period. Way ahead of their time, the same can be said for Cynic. God, I'd love to hear a new Cynic album...
Opeth are and for 10 years have been, an absolute favorite of mine. I discovered them and Porcupine Tree when I was forced to find alternatives to Tool--who continue to release about 2 albums every ten years.
Wait a minute...Metallica thread...uhm "Go James!"
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O-Matron, you're probably talking about the song Lack Of Comphrehension (one of the greatest songs ever! The riff that comes at about 2:25 is the most head banging-est moment in metal, the power of the drums is insane) - American melodic death metal before Gothenburg did anything.
Opeth (despite being around for a while) are one of the few bands from the current big players in metal that I have a huge amount of respect for. I wouldn't say they're any where near my top favs but a band with such a unique idea and originality in a world full of clones and stale subgenres is a beautiful thing. The same can be said for Mastodon.
Yep it was Paul Masvidal (my hero) who composed music for television and movies, him and (the legendary) Sean Reinhart now play in a pretty crap Radioheadish band called Aeon Spoke. They're reuniting for a tour and a few shows (a bit like Atheist did) but I don't think a new album will surface though we can hope. I just read on their website they're letting a fan at each of their shows come on stage to sing the growl vocals for Uroboric Forms - pretty cool huh? By the way for all Cynic fans who want to pretend they never disbanded, listen to the band Exivious they're basically a (pretty awesome) band who have no qualms about being a Cynic clone. Unfortunately they only really have two songs from their 2001 demo, which can be downloaded here - http://www.exivious.net/
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Hey Cynic, I was wrong, it wasnt off Human, it was off Individual thought patterns, and the song was "Everything is Nothing". But "Lack of comprehension" was also one that I liked alot, sheesh Im going to have to dig up that one, (I think I actually had it on cassette if you believe it). Thanks for the input! Ill have to check out Exivious, and Opeth.
ok one question guys do u even look at the things they put up about these things. ok they say there goin to bring the sound back. they say they are make fast songs. they say there goin back to there roots. who the f*** say they cant. its not hard to go back to the things they all ready started with and make it happen again. i mean think about it. it has to be better then st anger on the count of it has solos and a good sounding snare again. it has have more engery then both load and reload compobined cuz they said the music is fast(i think they should no) it has to have a good bass sound simmiler to burtons cuz rob is somewat like cliff. he is diffently better then jason. and most of all it has to have the feel of the old stuff. idk about u guys but this album is goin to kick ass. this is there comeback. they r due for an other good album. i trust thwm when they say it will be good again. if u guys want to bash on them then do it somewere esle no wants to here about it. let the true metallica fans support metallica and the f***in a$$holes stay away from metallica
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I'll probably reserve my judgment (and my $) till I hear a couple of songs - I'll probably download it, and if it's worth a crap, then I'll go buy it.
I swear to god, though, if I hear a "hell yeah" or "yeee-haww" I'm going to throw it in the trash straightaway, and to hell with the $15 for the record.
... I wonder if you can take a cd back to the store because it sucks so bad...
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In some way I think it'll be analogous to Slayer's Christ Illusion. We might hjave a few 'Eyes of the Insane' but if we're lucky there will be a 'Cult' or 'Jihad'. Not only because of the paralellisms of playing their two defining 86 albums through in concerts.
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ok, I don't like Load that much, and I'll give you all a MATURE and LEGITIMATE reason: the album just lags. It sounds unfocused and uneven in some places, and it sounds like they are going in a million different directions. I just couldn't get into it. Despite all of this, the album contains some of the best lyrics James had ever written. You see? Didn't that sound a whole lot better than "derrrrrrr metaliica r seloouts. dey hav sukked sins da blak allbumm. derrrr im a retardd".
well, did tommy go dyslexic while typing that?....lol.....jk....all records b4 load were good....after that they all blew....they wanted to change their sound...cool, but its not just that that has made millions hate them people....its the way that they have become,....lars is the biggest piece of sh1t on this planet....their music went to sh1t so he had to recoup their losses by suing every1 he could find....then he cries like a little b1tch when the stones punked them out during the photo shoot...boo hoo, u whiny a$$ turd....thats all we r saying here...well, at least me..if the next cd is kik a$$ then cool...but im not betting on it!!!!!!!!!!!
yes i can....i can "accept" change...did you fail english class?...whenever any band begins to do what metallica did, i have nothing for them...even lars realized what he was doing was bad, thats why the lawsuit against napster was dropped....but it was too late by that point...he had already shown how they trully felt about the fans....screw them over every chance they have gotten...
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Post 112
Bullsh**.
Fans that consider Metallica's last few years evolution rather than devolution are either hearing impaired or in denial. Some of my favorite bands have changed drastically or gradually and I still love them.
Why I hate Metallica's later output.
1.)Sub-par lyrics after Black: Compare MOP to St. Anger. Indisputable evidence of degradation.
2.)When James started saying "YEEeeaaAAAhh!!!" and "Whoooa-OOOOH!"
3.)Similarly-Observe James' clean vocals in "FTB" or "Sanitarium". Compare to anything from Load forward. Now pick the corn out your teeth. The Sincerity is GONE, possibly somewhere in Arkansas -- put up a Wanted Alive poster + reward.
4.)Verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/BIG-FINISH-CHORUS/fade...yawn
5.)Kirks neutered or absent solos post AJFA/Black. If you get goose bumps from any of Kirk's work on St. Anger consider the fact that Kevorkian is out of the pen.
6.)Lars' turn signal sounding snare on St. Anger
7.)Laugh with me as Metallica try to make "Fuel" sound potent. Purposeless rubbish.
You get the idea...
Listen Tommy, you're a good kid and with time we might have you spelling "accept" correctly. But don't condescend to me about what I do and do not like/understand.
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Post 117, Your right and I'm wrong.
I'm sorry you had to hear more of my dumbass b****ing, but you are truly right. I am just very narrow-minded, and I can't except change. The comment I made about my fav bands changing yet I still loved them? I was being a HUGGGGGGEE hypocrite. Well, not like that's a new thing right? I really like peanut butter on pancakes. Pancakes are really rad. That is all. I hope i didn't get all up my own a$$ and preachey. Its something i prone to do, seeing as im such a blowhard and all.
WELL WE ALL KNOW THAT RM DIDNT POST IN POST 118, CAUSE IT WOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED...GUESS LIL TOMMY BOY DIDNT LIKE THE SPANKING HE GOT FROM RM, AND TRIED TO POST SOME STUPID POINTLESS REBUTTAL LIKE THAT...COULD BE WRONG, BUT WE ALL KNOW IT WASNT RM THAT POSTED IT!!!!!
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If by can't accept change, you mean can't accept boring music then yes. Can't accept change? Worst. logic. ever.
And lyrics on Kill Em All bad?! I can't even be bothered. For me, you can't beat AJFA in lyrical quality, the rawness and truth of the lyrics...
"I Can't Believe the Things You Say
I Can't Believe
I Can't Believe the Price You Pay
Nothing Can Save You
Justice Is Lost
Justice Is Raped
Justice Is Gone
Pulling Your Strings
Justice Is Done
Seeking No Truth
Winning Is All
Find it So Grim
So True
So Real"
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i wanna believe that this album will be great, but after i heard the voltourus live i am kinda frustrated... Anyway i hope metallica trully lives to the hype with this new album... But i cannot blame them for anything because they have made music that trully enspired generations of musicians. So,keep on metallica, and thank you for your beautiful music(including St.Anger Load and Reload),
Maybe I'm in the minority but I like all all the Metallica stuff. St. Anger is way different but it has it's moments. Ever since the Black album, it's been trendy to diss it and the Load and Re-Load albums. Personally I like them. I'm not afraid of having songs be a little melodic. Not everything has to be bone crushing to be good. I like a variety and Metallica has a lot of variety in their tunes after all these years. I have no say on the new album, because I want to hear it first. I don't condemn or praise anything based on speculation. Everyone wants their favorite bands to stay in the era that first got them into the band in the first place. It's the same with every band.
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Tommy had to say PWNED after his own post.
I almost fell out of my chair. Classic.
Tommy, relax...You call my post long and then you fire out 4 --within a half hour-- back to back. And you call ME the hypocrite, I havent laughed this hard in a week, thanks man.
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f*** you guys your f***ing retarted St. Anger was Amazing! you guys hate it because its not that gay scream sh** they play now a days like Trivium and As i lay dying gay stuff like that sh** is horrible metal has gone to hell and i think Metallica is gonna bring Real Metal Back!
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Refute is third grade or so, nothing BIG about it.
We are off topic though.
You believe that noone can possibly -hate- the recent albums by Metallica unless they are sheep or fickle. Correct?
Sheep would be the ones who continue to buy Metallica albums 15 years after they stopped enjoying the music. Fickle people wouldn't HOPE for Metallica to make a good album, they would latch onto a new band and FORGET Metallica ever existed.
Do you believe that the songs "Master of Puppets" and "St. Anger" are equals? If so, I am utterly at a loss.
I'm not getting into a name calling contest with you, I'm challenging your viewpoint, you are within your rights to challenge mine.
Is there any chance you will respond to the claims/points I made in post 114?
If you need me to list 10 or more bands that I like that have changed alot over the last 5-15 years I have no problem being that guy....
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Metallica is the kings of all thrash, Master of Puppets is the best album of all time, and if people want to say they sold out or whatever than be it St. Anger was a nice change from everything they did, i liked it and i dont care if anyone say dude it sucked or uare a idiot for liking it, i liked it. I cant wait to hear the new album coming out this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will buy it!!!! METALLICA RULES!!!!!!
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As i've said in the past post about hammett, im really hoping this lives up to the hype