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Dissection Frontman Jon Nödtveidt Commits Suicide

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DISSECTION frontman Jon Nödtveidt has committed suicide. Nödtveidt's death was confirmed by the Swedish distributor Sound Pollution, whose staff has worked with DISSECTION throughout the band's career. A posting on the Sound Pollution web site, reads: "RIP Jon Nödtveidt 1975-2006. Condolences from Sound Pollution & Black Lodge."

Nödtveidt formed DISSECTION in 1989 and released two full-length albums with the group — "The Somberlain" (1993) and "Storm of the Light's Bane" (1995) — before he was convicted in Sweden of felony murder of 37-year-old homosexual Algerian Josef Ben Maddour in 1997. He was released from prison in 2004, at which point he restarted DISSECTION.

DISSECTION announced in May that it would split up imediately following its final performances in support of its recently released CD, "Reinkaos". The band was subsequently forced to cancel its two previously announced appearances in North America (Sept. 1 at the House of Blues in West Hollywood, CA and Sept. 6 at B.B. King Blues Club in New York City) after Nödtveidt was denied legal entry into the United States as a result of his conviction.

DISSECTION's most recent album, "Reinkaos", was released in May on The End Records.

No further details surrounding the circumstances of Jon Nödtveidt's death have been released at this time.

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. Terminator writes:

i hate reading stuff like this. RIP Jon.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 2:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. PopNFreshthePirate writes:

I've only heard a tiny bit from Dissection, but no one likes to hear stuff like this.

RIP.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 2:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. Lividius writes:

I just heard, what a terrible waste of talent! It makes me so sad, Dissection is my favourite band since The Somberlain. Rest in Peace!

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 3:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Donnoj writes:

This seems very strategic, not just purposely.

The other band members won't likely give up what's going on either. Too bad.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 3:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. CaptHowdy writes:

Sounds like it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 3:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. Red_Chord writes:

Man, I hate that when people are so depressed that the only solution they see is to kill themselves. What a waste of talent, what a waste of life. I just hope that he is happier where he is...RIP and my condoleances to the family and friends

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 3:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. slayerdisciple writes:

damn
RIP Jon

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 4:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. whomever writes:

Let us all take a moment to reflect on...well whatever it is we need to reflect on......

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 6:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Grim Reaper writes:

RIP Jon

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 7:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Scorched_Earth writes:

Going with Whomever on this one...little hard to know what to say about this...seems like a strange individual...

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 7:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. morbid_princess writes:

Hmmmm i was just really getting to know Dissection and now he's gone... Hmmm too bad...waste of talent...
RIP Jon...

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 7:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. kale writes:

I find it hard to mourn the suicide of a murderer... musician or not.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 8:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. i agree with the person above me writes:

i agree with the person above me

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 8:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. godlike writes:

guess I am gonna have to third that motion....if thats possible... whatever I feel the same....

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 9:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Thrash Banger writes:

Wow....I did not see this comeing

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 9:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. satanica writes:

What a retard. Anyone can write better lame metal lyrics than a band named dissection! Rott in hell you untalented glam poser!

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 10:08 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. Night_terror987 writes:

damn this sucks!

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 10:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. D00ML0RD writes:

This is a good time to mourn the loss of his and Vlad's murder victim.
Josef Ben Maddour was shot in the back of the head. Vlad is still in
prison having been convicted of killing at least one other person.
R.I.P. Josef. . One of your killers is on his way to Hell.

# Aug 18, 2006 @ 11:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. slayerdisciple writes:

u can show some compasion DOOMLORD, i can see where kale is comin from but bein a human being and a dissection fan i still show compasion for a man who has died

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 1:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. he wasnt depressed writes:

this was his plan all along, you can see it... check the last few interviews and the dvd that just came out...

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 1:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. Ealdorman writes:

SATANICA.
Its easy to call a dead man "retard".

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 2:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Red_Chord writes:

It easy to call a living human being a retard as well, look at this : Bin Laden is a retard. Thank you !!!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 7:49 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. IcedGardian writes:

Honestly......i really love storm of the lights bane, but that never blinded from the fact that jon was on the human level a idiot with his rightwing convictions.....i dont mourn for a murderer and a person like that

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 10:45 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. metalmayhem writes:

this is very strange. definitely seems like it was kind of planned....he gets out of jail, releases a cd, says he's done w/ the band, and then committs suicide??? he was an awesome musician, definitely one of a kind and this is a shame, although as bad as it sounds it is almost a fitting end for such a troubled individual...the only good that you can take out of this is that his music will be here forever. RIP Jon..... and Satanica, your statement is ignorant especially considering that your handle on this website is taken from a Behemoth album, and Dissection and Jon were immensly influential on Behemoth's sound. Nergal has even been quoted as saying that they are his favorite band so get a clue you ignorant idiot. real cool talking sh** about someone who just passed away. some people never cease to amaze me w/ their ignorant bullsh**. agree w/ doomlord also, he was a criminal and will burn in hell, but that is what he wanted unfortunately.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 10:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. metalhead644 writes:

yea unfortunately doomlord does make a good point... he was an amazing musician, one of my favorite, and his music shall be missed greatly

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 11:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. evildollie writes:

satanica your the retard and if you really had nothing to say why go on and say it? ... no one should commit suicide whether it was planned or not so it sucks it doesnt matter whether he was talented or not which he was:( the uk can be such a b**** at times it wasnt fair to deny him entry... xXx <;33 xXx

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 12:03 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. GothicKid writes:

there alot of dumbasses here, why insult a deadman, dont people have the balls to say stuff to peoples faces if they could? satanica is just a little p*ssy as well as other f*ckers who insult the dead.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 1:04 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. GothicKid writes:

evidollie, i think you mean US.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 1:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. Sad to Say Your a Sad Cliche writes:

You know it's easy for some of these douchebags to get on here and say like yeah im glad this happened im not gonna mourn the death of a murderer. We dont care if you mourn him if you do great if you dont o well its your life but calling him a retard and a waste of talent isnt gonna do anybody any good. What pleasure do you get out of calling him retarded oo you can make fun of a deadman i bet you think your big and bad now. O yeah and Red_Chord they cant prove bin laden is still alive

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 1:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. godlike writes:

I think metalmayhem needs to find another forum to spew his/her bull@#$%!!!!!...Last time I checked this was a Forum...which simply means that anyone (including idiots such as yourself) can post their personal feelings about whatever the subject may be.....am I right or am I right..?---yeah I thought so....
And since when is a singer a musician...? everyone has a voice....a real singer just has a talent for using it to sing......not that growling,screaming and moaning like your constipated sh@t....

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 1:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. nightsblood writes:

"a real singer has a talent for using it to sing." Godlike are you a metal fan? If not, what the f*** are you doing here? You just told metalmayhem to "find another forum to spew his/her bullsh**" and then continue to post your own uninformed opinion. I don't really care, so please don't respond. I just wanted you to realize what a hypocrite you truly are, but I am certain you are too simple to understand this. Its a shame that EVER FORUM on this site, including one to break the news of a metal musician's death, turns into a weakminded opinionfest between a bunch of emo posers who would rather watch wrestling than go to an actual metal show.
Hail Jon Nodtveidt and the mighty Dissection!
You have left us a legacy that can never be broken. 666

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 3:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. KORNDOGG writes:

I AGREE WITH POST 18, THAT f***ER IS IN HELL NOW!
KARMA IS A b****, HE TOOK SOMEONE ELSES LIFE AND NOW HIS OWN!
SOUNDS LIKE THIS GUY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABORTED AT BIRTH!

YEAH I KNOW THATS PRETTY HARSH, BUT COME ON EVERYBODY THE DUDES A MURDERER!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 3:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. KORNDOGG writes:

You know what, let me explain with my caps off!
It doesnt really matter if he made the greatest music ever heard to man. This guy was a waste of skin and talent, he probably was a great musician, that doesnt take away the fact that he killed a man! Just like every person who murders someone, they should recieve the death penalty.

He should have been executed along time ago. So the way i see it, he got to live longer than he should have!

Rest In Hell- with your 666!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 4:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. metalmayhem writes:

godlike, when people are saying things like he should "rot in hell" and showing no compassion whatsoever for someone who has just died, that is ignorance, am i right or am i wrong? say whatever you want on this site, everyone has the right, but if it is ignorance that you're speaking someone should call you on it. i dont even know why you are so p***ed off cause i wasnt half as critical of that IGNORANT p***y as i could have been.....

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 4:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. metalmayhem writes:

by the way, he was also the lead guitarist which makes him a musician and you an idiot b/c you are obviously completely oblivious to dissection's music, so why dont you go ahead and find a place to post where you are properly informed so you're not spewing anymore bullsh** about a subject you quite apparently know nothing about.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 4:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. metalmayhem writes:

sorry i had to call you out godlike, but anyone who's a fan knows that he is also the lead player....like i said, if you dont know about the subject, than maybe you shouldnt post an unwarrented attack on someone who was simply voicing another opinion...

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. godlike writes:

ooooops...this wasnt the Lance Bass came out of the closet Forum....Fu@$..... that was my mistake.....I was reading the whole thing wrong....

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. godlike writes:

oh alright....I thought that this was all just opinions....I was voicing mine....I feel that you--- metalmayhem were acting like a D#%k towards Satanica.... wasnt that just Satanica voicing an opinion..? am I right or am I right....?

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. metalmayhem writes:

dont get embarrassed godlike, just b/c you tried to comment on a band you've never heard before, we all make mistakes, but only some of us learn from them....but im sure you probably wont cause you seem to be exactly like the person you described in your first post. the guy that goes on forums and "spews" idiotic bullsh** that he/she knows nothing about......goodluck godlike

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. godlike writes:

who said anything about being embarrassed... I was being sarcastic..a smart a$$....whatever you would like to call it....obviously its hard to tell the difference with such a simple mind

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. metalmayhem writes:

again, to answer your question in post 38, all opinions are welcome, but to disrespect someone and i mean anyone, that has just died for whatever reason is just plain disrespectful. if you knew anything about their history you couldve seen this coming ten years ago. his opinion is fine, but it is an ignorant one, and im sure most people would agree w/ me.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:19 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. godlike writes:

actually I do.....but I just felt that you were being harsh on Satanica about where he got his handle etc......afterall its just opinions.... just FUC@#$ relax....was I asking to meet you on the local street corner for a game of throwdown...? once again...I was voicing an opinion...(that is a thought or an idea about any given subject....)

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. metalmayhem writes:

maybe you werent embarrassed but i think you may have missed the point....and i it is almost an oxymoron, i mean you referring to me as simple minded. you have no idea about the subject on this message board and you attack me to defend an "opinion" that you, yourself knows absolutely nothing about...what is your deal dude??? Is it not simple minded to defend an opinion, when you dont even know what the subject pertains to?

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. metalmayhem writes:

alright godlike, i am plenty relaxed and i cant remember the last time i had "a game of throwdown" so that wasnt really what i was getting at.....maybe you should just tone down the personal attacks, b/c although i was admittedly critical of Satanica, i did not attack him in anyway......although this is getting retarded and i could really care less, so f*** it......who cares

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. godlike writes:

I still was under the impression that we were still talking about this idiot/murderer from Dissection that did the world a favor and offed himself....

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. nightsblood writes:

Too bad Jon didn't take godlike with him.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Emperor4Ever writes:

It really is pathetic to come in here and read everyone B.S.ing about B.S. The story is simple, Jon Nödtveidt, singer & guitarist (for all you stupid f***s that forget he really is a musician) was awesome for the music that he and the rest of the original members of Dissection put out. But in 1997 him and friend Vlad decide to murder Josef Ben Maddour for the main reason of this homosexual inquiring about occultism trying to convert to a Satanist and they simply got disgusted, they got high & drunk, beat him, tortured the guy with a taser & then Jon shot him in the back of the head while he was trying to escape. Take it how you want, I don't really care. If you take it as them just killing the guy cuz he was gay, then it was a simple case of homophobia... which lets face it, most heterosexuals would probably take offense to a homosexual coming on to them, such as the case with Bård Eithun in 1992, and the end result... murder. Although, a bit of a preposterous way of handling it, most heterosexuals would probably have taken offense to the guy and would've probably done something about it, most likely less brutal, but nevertheless, they handled it the way they did. People continue to praise Eithun for his efforts in Emperor and his newly found efforts in Scum, as do I. He's a terrific drummer, as is Jon Nödtveidt is an awesome guitarist/vocalist with Dissection. Lets try to remember Jon Nödtveidt for the good that he did with Dissection and bringing the Swedish black metal scene right up to the level of the Norwegian black metal scene. You are gone but not forgotten fellow brother in metal. May Jon Nödtveidt rest in peace. And chances are I won't be back in here to read any comments to this because its pointless, so for any criticizers, f*** off.

R.I.P.
Jon Nödtveidt
(1975-2006)

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. metalmayhem writes:

we were, but you attacked me b/c i was critical of his opinion....we can see who is simple minded here.....goodbye godlike, and once again, goodluck finding a place to post about something that you at least know a little about. b/c again the more you talk about this subject the more your ignorance comes shining through so do yourself a favor and stop posting, or dont and continue to make yourself look foolish.

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. korndogg writes:

POST 47 give me a f***en break!
You just explained the murder and torture of a homosexual like an everyday activity, like it is no big deal!
f*** YOU MAN, did he show compassion when he shot that guy...NO
so i will show no compassion for this waste of talent, i dont care how good of musician he was!

PS- mayhem shut up, hey godlike do not listen to this guys bullsh**, hes just attacking you the same way he used to attack me for stating my opinion!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 6:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. godlike writes:

Hey thanks Korndogg.........this is suppose to be all about opinions and like a$$ho#@s everyone has one.......I was only voicing mine and now mayhem went off on me and hurt my feelings....geeez thats not nice.....hahahahaha

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 6:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. KORNDOGG writes:

LOL!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHA f*** HIM!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 6:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. nightsblood writes:

Oh how cute... Two fags hooked up in a metal forum. :( I hope godlike doesn't get mad while f***ing Korndogg when he suddenly starts moaning Jonathan Davis name. You two a$$holes go arrange your gaydate on Myspace.
This thread should be used to honor the memory of this man's musical accomplishments or to express grief/sadness about his death. If you harbor negative feelings toward him that is your right, but you should not post them here in a public forum. This thread is about the man's death, not a criminal act he committed a decade ago. You may not agree with the choices Jon Nodveidt made in the course of his life, but the man lived by his own code and died by his code and I have a great amount of respect because of that. His ability as a musician and songwriter was simply amazing and will be forever engraved in the minds of Dissection fans for years.
Hail Dissection
Death before dishonor

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 6:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. godlike writes:

I guess I will be the first to apologize to the 10 or 12 fans of this idiot for their loss....

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 7:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. KORNDOGG writes:

You can apologize to 5 and ill apologize to the other 5!
cause you know its half my fault too! LOL!

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 7:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. godlike writes:

thats sounds fair enough to me...... hahahahaha
I just cant comprehend how these morons can idolize someone like this,..... Charles Manson was quite an acomplished singer/guitarist/songwriter and I dont htink he has near the following...

# Aug 19, 2006 @ 7:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. psythe writes:

lol, Korndogg, it's almost as if you have two personalities - one's an absolute idiot who types with his caps lock on and doesn't ever offer anything of use to the site, and another which is almost completely the opposite. I kinda wish you'd just stick with your latter self.

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 4:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. psythe writes:

As for Dissection, it's a pity they don't have Jon's talent anymore. But, the guy got what he wanted, and there's hardly anything more satisfying than that. Hope you're content, old matey. Found your inner peace at last, huh? I feel sorry for his girlfriend (though she's likely as crazed as he, in most aspects).

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 4:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Gallow writes:

RIP - Jon Nödtveidt. \m/

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 6:09 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. metalmayhem writes:

glad to see that you're still talking about me godlike......you can drop it anytime you want now buddy, or you can continue to obsess over something i said. you and korndogg are very good for each other though, i can see why you two would get along.....and psythe is totally 100% correct in post #57

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 11:42 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. metalmayhem writes:

oh yeah, and no one is idolizing this guy ( and i think your comparison w/ manson just shows your ignorance once again). all i was doing was voicing respect for another dead metal musician. there has been a lot of that going around lately, but your probably a big korn or a7x fan so you would not really have a care for someone that actually brought quality to metal, a genre of music that is right now completely saturated w/ half wit posers such as yourself.

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 11:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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61. metalmayhem writes:

word nightsblood, word.....its nice to know that there are a few true metal fans that actually post informed intelligent comments on this site. for the most part this is the best metal forum site out there, but it is people like godlike that ruin it for real fans of extreme music.....

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 1:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. Terminator writes:

metalmayhem--at least you're trying to take the high road and not stooping down into a big bash fest with these two. if you couldnt get through to them with your previous posts, you never will.

godlike--i realize that some of what you post is sarcasm, but on this particular forum about a musician who just killed himself, your "humor" is very unfunny and very tasteless. if those really are your opinions than thats fine. just try to post them in either a more educated and reasonable manner or not at all. the last thing that this site needs is another korndogg. and quit trying to nit-pick at metalmayhem. though he ragged on santanica with good reason, you just about blew a gasget on him. in short, this stupid argument has gotten really f***ing annoying and out of hand. LET IT GO!!

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 3:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. godlike writes:

Its gone..... I can only aplologize for the harsh if not assinine comments... Its quite clear that you all stick together and share the same views on these subjects.....Its nice to see that you welcome all opinions so readily
So just to clear things up...
I have been a metal fan for 30+yrs and I have never seen it in the state that its in now....you guys all pick on Korndogg for being a Korn fan...why..? It seems as if its not death metal or black metal or whatever you want to call it than its not worthy of the title of being metal... well that is WRONG...!!!! metal is metal no matter what genre of metal it is...and when this all started with Black Sabbath, Led Zep and Deep Purple etc....do you think they called each other posers and pu$$ies...I dont think so.....
And when Motorhead, Maiden and Priest came along did they get called idiots or posers...?
( Def Leppard I can understand being called names...but thats a different story altogether..)
at any rate....its all metal... isnt it...?
I see posts on other forums where some poeple are doggin on Vinnie Paul for jammin with and being associated with the likes of Disturbed,Godsmack,Mudvayne...etc....well what is that all about...? Its all metal...
but bottom line is.....its all just opinions.... and that is mine...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now ,as for this guy that committed suicide... I do feel bad for his family and friends...but I wonder if you guys felt so bad and heartbroke for the man he killed...?
I see the comments that this guy was killed for being homosexual and some of you think that is alright.......but isnt that being simple minded and idiotic...?
as for you metalmayhem....i can only offer to send you a few bucks to buy a drink.... I would do the same for nightsblood but he jumped in after it all started and that just isnt right.!!!! i didnt ask Korndogg to come help me...I am more than capable of taking care of myself.!!!!

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 5:24 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. kale writes:

that was inspiring....


you're a douche.

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 6:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. Cliff Richard writes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! OWNED!!!!!!!!!

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 7:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. godlike writes:

thats all you have to say...? WOW...the inteligence level you possess simply amazes me....
kale could you even understand anything that I wrote..?
Cliff Richard..hahahaha..do you even know who that is...?

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 10:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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67. roswell writes:

guys jon is dead just hope him to rest in peace hez gone n hez muzic has really impressed us so plz remember da good things he did in his life apart from his sins

# Aug 20, 2006 @ 11:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. Cliff Richard writes:

Gosh! Yes I do! I myself love a bit of Dissection and Deicide in between prayers. You c***.

# Aug 21, 2006 @ 5:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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69. godlike writes:

In between prayers for what..?..a life besides sitting at your computer ..and whacking off on your sisters panties..?

# Aug 21, 2006 @ 5:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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70. KORNDOGG writes:

Gosh, i love myself some sisters panties!

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71. Cliff Richard writes:

I'm an only child. You do know who I am don't you? Dear me. I wrote Wired For Sound!

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72. KORNDOGG writes:

No i dont know you, i do know that dissection and deicide are two of the worst bands in the f***ing world!

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73. godlike writes:

and I godlike, will second that motion

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74. godlike writes:

I must admit...Devil Woman was a cool tune....in the 70s..... and again when Sabbath( w/Dio) sampled it in the 80s

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75. -xxsarahxx- writes:

suicide is the worst way to escape the pain and misery of life.. im sure he had his reasons. RIP JON

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76. slayerdisciple writes:

2 of the worst bands ever? dont u think ur bein a little harsh korndogg?, ill admit im not a big deicide fan but ill never say they r one of the worst bands ever, however i am a huge dissection fan

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77. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

This might be controversial but this guy murdered someone i am sorry for his family and friends but it doesn't matter how good dissection are or how good a musician he was he should have been executed in the first place for his crimes maybe now he is getting the justice he deserved and did not get first time around.

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78. VICSTER writes:

Justice would be the following: A fag f*ucks him real good then he shoots him in the head. This b**** had a lucky escape if you ask me. I dont give a flying fu*ck how good of a musician he is. Why dont you f***ers defend Hitler while u are at it. Hope maggots are eating this sick fu*cks body as we speak. Mother Fu*cker!!

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 11:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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79. VICSTER writes:

And I blame his family for raising such a sadistic moron!!! Fu*ck them too.

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80. psythe writes:

Actually, Hitler was himself an amazing artist. A painter, not a musician, but nevertheless. And you've gotta give the guy his props; he took an impoverished, dying country in the midst of a devastating depression and gave it hope, gave it something to fight for. He united an entire country towards his end. One hell of a charismatic guy. Excellent leadership skills. Not to mention all the groundbreaking medicinal knowledge that came from Nazi scientists - of course, the means was terrible, but the ends has surely saved millions of lives...

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81. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

What the f*** was i thinking JUSTICE ? actually i hope he is getting a$$ raped eternally.U put this guy on a pedestal then i guess u wanna rape him to.Good ridance to this sick f*** lets hope he is re-incarnated as a homosexual like the one he murdered then i guess that would be some real irony.i think we should spit on this f***s grave not worship him.i guess u guys wanna bukkake- gangbang his corpse.oh and before any f***ing moron cuts back at me check my name recognise it from a death metal bands famous song f*** u all who celebrate this convicted murderers life i just wish he'd killed one of your relatives lets see u sing the same tune then..........later

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 11:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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82. psythe writes:

lol, that was brilliant, Spirit - after all that hyper-angry ranting you signed off by saying "..........later" hahahah, loved it.

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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83. VICSTER writes:

psythe- LMFAO, yea man, HITLER was the sh**. (NOT)

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 11:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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84. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

Just to add hitler was a c*** but DR Jozef Mengele used to help old ladies across the street and help out at church fetes.Charles Manson was just misunderstood.Ted Bundy just couldn't find the right woman.Jeffrey Dahmer was just mal-nourished and hungry.The English wanted to help slaves find work and a new start in the Jamaicas.The Romans just raped and pilliged when they had no other choice as did Gengis Khan lol later..........

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85. psythe writes:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should have a Third Reicht (sp?) every second month or something. I in no way condone the evils of the holocaust. All I'm saying is that while Hitler may not have been a good guy, he WAS good at what he did. Brilliant, in fact. And that you can't deny.

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86. VICSTER writes:

Yes, he was brilliantly insane psythe.

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 12:12 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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87. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

true......but he was still a c***

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88. psythe writes:

I suppose you could argue that he was mentally disturbed towards the end of his life (I believe he poisoned himself, his wife, his children and their dog...). Look, I think the guy's as much a c*** as the next person does. But you've got to respect the guy for his achievements, which, let's face it, were a sh**load higher than anything you guys have done. Or myself, for that matter. You don't have to like a guy to respect him.

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89. godlike writes:

Once an individual (any individual for arguments sake) takes another persons life shouldnt they lose all of the respect points that they have earned..???...no matter how they earned them..ie...music,politics etc....

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psythe- I am sorry but i do not have respect for murderers. I dont care what kind of achievements he has. Call me crazy.

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91. morbid_princess writes:

Hmmm believe me it was funny to read somewhat of 40 posts of people fighting...listen i liked Dissection, and yes so sorry he commited suicide but yet I can't deny that he was a murderer, whether homofobic or not I don't care we could've killed a motherf***ing cow; it would've make no difference when it comes to the brutality of the act. I don't think I should worship the guy or anything really, I'm sorry for his death AS A MUSICIAN not as a human being. People who were talking about the respect for the dead well...he didn't DIE on natural means he made a CHOICE, so I believe people are as free to argue that as if with any other comment at all. About the Hitler thing that psythe was talking about, I think it's true, the man was more of an a**hole when it came to human rights; but the man was a genius. Take for example the simple fact that he was small; dark-haired and dark-eyed, that he was born in Austria and yet he convinced everyone that the tall, blond and blue-eyed were the perfect race. Yes I know that in general also black-haired ones were "admitted" but he wasn't even german...yet he controlled the german people...and psythe is right to respect a man you don't have to like him.

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92. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

psythe buddy i respect your point of view its true he came from nothing to rule a great country and re-unite his people and conquer 2 thirds of the world.Murder one person history calls u a murderer murder a million u are a revered conqueror its just i cannot respect the most evil man in history coz if he had his way i probably would be typing german here and you with his help would probably be speaking Japanese.AUF WIEDERHSEN/ARRIGATO later ................lol

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93. Diamond Oz writes:

Well on the Hitler thing I will say he deserves props for rebuilding Germany and his art, that doesn't excuse genocide of course but it's exactly the same as Charles Manson. He was a great songwriter/lyricist/singer and his religious views are pretty cool too. I believe in them but that doesn't excuse muder (which he never did anyway) or racism.

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94. godlike writes:

Hey now, I brought up the Manson reference and got dogged on because it had nothing to do with the subject....and by the way, Manson didnt kill anyone...his"family" did, he just convinced them that he was....well......GODLIKE...and they believed in him....just as Hitlers followers looked up to him as well as some of the fans of this "great" Jon that took his own life.......doesnt it make you wonder what the "great" Jon thought of his fans....????

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95. VICSTER writes:

post 91, i dont have to like or respect him. And why should I? A whole nation stood by him and blindly followed. Never questioning his motive. Was he a brilliant man? Perhaps we should ask some of the Holocaust survivers. I am sure they are gushing over his greatness and his achievements. I understand that you are not defending what he did, just pointing out some of his better qualities, for a lack of a better word. but you have to remember that all those "traits" are what made the man complete. So taking all this in to consideration, all his "good traits" and " bad traits" the bad overweights the good, and at the end of the day he is still a killer. So no, I would say that I dont have to respect him or the fu*cker that shot himself.

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96. KORNDOGG writes:

VICSTER, godlike, and Spirit thats what the f*** ive been talking about! Im glad someone else has the same opinion on a good for nothing murderer/satanist!
I hope hes getting f***ed in his homophobic ass, maybe just maybe all the rest of these satanists will pop their self in the head and go visit him in hell.

PS- and i mean that!

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97. Diamond Oz writes:

In all fairness godlike, Manson did kill a couple of people but none of the people that he went down for. Sorry by the way, I didn't see that you'd brought up the Manson incident.

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98. godlike writes:

hey its not a problem...I am not gonna call you a fag or a poser....hahaha
But I will say that I agree that Manson had some unusual views of the world and he was a great musician...but am I not gonna call him a great member of the human race and mourn for him when he finally dies.... cause as I said before...I think once you take someones life..than you lose all credibility...no matter if your Beethoven, Van Gogh,Ghandi or Yngwie FUC#KIN Malmsteen....your a murderer and thats that....end of story...

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99. lorlor writes:

OMFG Post 84............ LOL! That is some funny sh*it right there!

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100. godlike writes:

By the way it was post #55 and then all hell broke loose.....which brings up the fact that I still have gotten no reply to post 63..other than some idiot calling me a douche...(which is quite original material.) that guy seems like a real Einstein....

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101. lorlor writes:

Hitler was insane, and very much a psychopath and sociopath. Just because he was "brilliant" and an artist doesn't mean crap. He may have rebuilt Germany but take a look at how he went about it.. omfg! A man's life is judged by his most influential acts. Sadly for Hitler, his were all EVIL acts. Same with this guy who killed that dude, and now has killed himself. When you have a stain like that on your life, that is what stands out, and that is what defines who you are and how you are remembered!

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102. KORNDOGG writes:

Yep, he will not be remembered, not by me anyways!
i have already forgot his name, f*** him!

# Aug 22, 2006 @ 6:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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103. nightsblood writes:

What about all the good things Hitler did??? Just kidding...
Anyway, there are probably more emo fags on this thread than at an A7x concert.

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104. KORNDOGG writes:

Well, if would leave there wouldnt be one would there?
Go jack off to the satanic bible you worthless waste of skin. You are probably part of the reason this world is so f***ed up, if you c***sucking devil worshippers would just quit acting like your f***en vampires and when you die you are going to party in hell!

Maybe i should blame your parents for not kicking the sh** out of you when you started having animal sacrifices in your dark and lonely basement!
Heres a hint - get a life, a friend, and a girlfriend, and probably a job! Then quit trying to scare people by saying your a satanist. Then get some help, from a therapist!

If none of that works, then blow your f***ing brains out and go join your f***ing role model in hell!

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105. morbid_princess writes:

To post 104 i don't know who you're talking to but about the devil worshippers I do agree. I mean, i like black and death metal eventhough their lyrics can be "satanist" every once in a while... really I don't care about that much I mean personally I don't believe the Devil is my lord and saviour and I don't wish to party in hell. For the people who believe in all that well...fine it's a free world and you can believe anything at all (as ridiculous as it might be...) but in general I think you shouldn't take metal lyrics so seriously sometimes... I can't deny there are some hell of a lyrics... but there are also the ones that doesn't seem to be very elaborated. They weren't meant to be serious and you shouldn't take them that way. As for the people who really BELIEVE in the devil being your god well...no comments at all... silence explains more than words....

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106. Diamond Oz writes:

Yeah I'm with ya there godlike. As I said, I base alot of my views from Mansons but that doesn't mean I justify murder or racism, I don't feel there's any need for either.

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107. DISEMBOWLER writes:

SHUT THE HELL UP EVERYBODY, THANK YOU....DISSECTION WERE GOOD, AND IT SUCKS THAT HE KILLED HIMSELF, YEAH OK BYE................

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108. psythe writes:

y'all have me wrong - I'm not saying that his achievements in any way make up for the millions that were slaughtered under his regime. Hell no. Respect the man for his achievements, hate the man for what his followers did. And were ordered to do.

And if the Roman had their way, we'd be speaking Latin. And if the Islamic extremists had their way, we'd be speaking Arabic. And if the British had their way we'd be speaking English...

Murder isn't justifiable, not at all. But it seems to me there's only a handful of people throughout history who HAVN'T murdered somebody, through direct action, accident (manslaughter, but still a death), through ignorance (whether intentional or not), through "the State" (ie capital punishment), through impurity of mind (ie imagining murdering somebody), or through sheer dumb luck.

But I think it's time to let the Hitler thing rest. I never really meant it to become this huge debate - just wanted to suggest that there's a little bit of good in every man. We ARE all human, after all.

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109. VICSTER writes:

Alright, this is getting outta control. Forget Hitler and lets get back to the topic at hand. I just want to ask, how is it possible for a man to commit murder and only serve 7yrs in prison? And what is wrong with u men? If a gay man came on to you, can't you just be flattered and say no thank you? Why must you fu*cking flip the fu*ck out?

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 8:44 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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110. Cull the religious writes:

Actually korndogg satanists are not responsibe for all the s**t in this world, the religious are. Take your president, he decided to invade Iraq because, and I quote "the voice of god told me to". INSANE. 90% of wars thought since time began have been because of religion. I am not a satanist myself, I am an atheist. Satanists have done some pretty f****d up things, but the religious will be responsible when nuclear wrfare engulfs us all. Im now off for a marmalade sandwich and a cool beverage. Good day.

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111. nightsblood writes:

In response to post #109. Jon was sentenced to ten years for a lesser charge of murder and possession of a firearm, as he did not pull the trigger, but was present at the crimescene. He was released after seven years on early parole. 90% of the dumbf***s on this thread don't even know what they are talking about so it is understandable to be confused.

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 11:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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112. VICSTER writes:

thanks for calling me a dumbf*** post 111. But if you are a guy, can you at least answer my question in post 109? I would appreciate it. thanks for the kind words tho.

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113. nightsblood writes:

I thought I did answer your question? Or at least the only one that pertains to the topic.

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114. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

nightsblood are u in denial do you want to come out of the closet live on the internet.later............

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 2:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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115. VICSTER writes:

nightsblood-have u ever been propositioned by a gay man and what was your reaction, or what would your reaction be if and when u are? This question applies only if you are not gay yourself.

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 2:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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116. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

Ok you f***ing insecure so-called hetero-sexual p***ies leave it to SPIRIT to get the ball rolling my response would be "sorry my a$$ it to hot to be f***ed by anyone in this lifetime male/female sorry b**** but u are just going to have to content yourself with jacking off at the prospect of reaming my ass.lmfao lol............later b****es lol.........

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117. metalmayhem writes:

just checking out the posts on this topic again, and i have to say that i am very surprised to see that godlike and korndogg are still putting in their two cents. This is a subject about which either of you know nothing about, so why continue to post?? i mean, i dont care, go ahead continue to voice your uninformed opinion. however, the more you post the more you look like idiots. neither of you have ever heard of this band or their lead singer/guitarist, so why keep up the bullsh** guys??

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 3:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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118. nightsblood writes:

This isn't the dating game Vicster. This is a metal thread. Read your own words on Post 109.
Do you honestly think I would be a Dissection fan considering their frontman was involved in the murder of a fag, IF I were indeed a queer myself? Don't misinterpret me, I think the murder was senseless, but I don't personally know any of those involved, so I don't give a f*** quite frankly. I think the biggest loss was that Dissection had their musical career shortened at its peak, rather than the loss of some polesmoker wannabe Satanist.
Dissection is the most hated band in the world, according to Jon's own words. They are not an accepted band, specifically by mainstraim life loving emo c***s like yourself. Damn, there are some smart people in here...pfff

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119. VICSTER writes:

Ouch nightsblood, that really hurt. U cut me really fu*cking deep. You know I must admit I dont know anything about this band or this sick f***. Nor do I really fuc*king care that this dumb sh** killed himself. I dont feel sorry for the band that their career was cut short. As far as I am concerned, GOOD, thank u lord (althoght i dont believe in him) for saving us from hearing some more crappy a$$ f***ing music. And who says I am EMO? U just talking out of your a$$ now. It was just a f***ing question b****, why are straight man afraid of fags? what is so f***ing hard to understand?

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 4:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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120. nightsblood writes:

FINALLY!!! Thank you Vicster!!!Somebody has the guts to admit on this thread that they don't know what the f*** they are talking about!!! A victory! Have fun with you uninformed opinions! Later f***heads.

# Aug 23, 2006 @ 4:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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121. VICSTER writes:

nightsblood- LMFAO !!!!

# Aug 24, 2006 @ 8:22 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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122. godlike writes:

Just havin some fun metalmahem....is that a problem..? check out my posts on the forum about that other idiot that supposedly committed suicide.... yeah these dipsh*ts are definatly some very important role models for the younger users of this site....
the aforementioned comments are only the opinions of the writer...

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123. DeathCrush writes:

Sure are alot of trolls in here.

Anyway i will say this of Jon..

He was an excellent musician who at a very young age made a very stupid decision. But he served his time so weater you think the punishment fits the crime or not isn't/wasn't your decision because i am willing to bet none of you here are judges in any country.

I found SOTLB by accident and absolutley loved it i spread his music to many many people. So I waited 11 long a$$ years to hear Reinkaos. Yes i was overall disappointed...with only 2 songs worth listening to. I am not upset or even sad over his suicide. I am just very very disappointed in him, even mad at what he did. But the guy wasn't right in the head to begin with. I followed all he said about not playing anymore...how he was musically tapped....and was moving on to different things. So at that point i kinda gave up on him anyway and figured he would just fade into obscurity.

....Disappointed as a serious fan...

# Aug 25, 2006 @ 12:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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124. VICSTER writes:

I must admit the bashing on this site is very entertaining.

# Aug 25, 2006 @ 9:33 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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125. Maria writes:

I saw Jon with Dissection last year in Czech and it was the evening of my live. Jon´s been always on in mind with his great feeling for the dark music and I´m f***ing sad since last week..and also lost my platonic love...

# Aug 25, 2006 @ 10:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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126. uNDerTOw writes:

For anyone who may not under stand they should refer to the DISSECTION web page.

Thrive in Hell JON

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127. uNDerTOw writes:

Weather Jon chose to live longer or not, Dissection had completed Jons objectives to the satisfaction of himself and the new lineup, which was chosen on strict beliefs with a direction and an end in mind. Dissection was a finished ''project'' and despite the conclusion John had planned for himself, Dissection was a finished deal.

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128. consuming impulse writes:

R.I.P. Jon
It's a shame. It's a big loss and metal too. A bunch of people are n00dz so you wouldnt know Dissection cause you listen to too much Korn and Lamb of God that you don't pay attntion to real metal.

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129. consuming impulse writes:

*A bunch of people HERE are n00dz

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130. consuming impulse writes:

satanica, eat my bleeding d***.

DISSECTION>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;>;you

# Aug 26, 2006 @ 7:21 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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131. gumball writes:

No pity for people who end their lives.
Justice for the Algerian man, perhaps?

# Aug 26, 2006 @ 7:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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132. aphex writes:

RIf***enP man.
At least, you're far away from those goddamn f***ers who theorize about you, now.
Thanks for your music, THAT is all there's to say, I guess.

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133. chicken liverr.. writes:

damn..
RIP your music you will remembered..

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134. Resternak (www.canserberia.com) writes:

DAMN, its so sad, JON 4ever in our minds, RIP

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135. jordan writes:

I went through and looked at all these peoples interested and yet hilarous comments. First of all, Dissection was a great band and if you dont like them then thats ok go somewhere else and listen to something else. Second, murder is the nature of the beast, let the killing hand do its thing. I respect Jon for his life and actions, and mostly for his music. If you are so anti murder and anti metal and all that, then go back to church and pray to your "god." Of course on every forum or chat or anything like that on the internet, there are pecker leaching mud sharks that have to leave rude and nasty comments to stir up some commotion. That is normal. We all are born, we live, and then we die. None of this sh** matters. Just give up and live. And for Jon and Dissection, let the beauty of death set in!

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136. B Hughes writes:

Jon rip. respects given to those who loved him and knew him.

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137. hellofromthegutter writes:

I Jon him for what he's done, and I could care less if he says he's changed.. He killed an innocent Algerian man, unprovoked, and him having "changed" isn't going to revive him.. f*** Jon Nodveit, I hate him and always will. He even chose to kill himself, his death was noone's fault but his own so I don't see why he should be mourned.. This message should be in honour of the innocent man he killed, not Jon.. He's not even a talented guitarist, either..

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138. hellofromthegutter writes:

I hate* Jon (typed my 1st post wrong)

# Aug 28, 2006 @ 5:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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139. Maha writes:

Reign in chaos Jon.

# Aug 28, 2006 @ 6:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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140. Maha writes:

Oh, and Jon once said in a interview that a true satanist ends his life when he feels that he has achieved everything he wants in life, and should do so while young & strong. Thats why Jon decided to end his.

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141. CN writes:

Dissection was a f***en badass band and Jon was a great singing and guitar player HAILZ TO JON FOR SHARING HIS DARKNESS WITH US. LONG LIVE DISSECTION 218

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142. Blackgoddessarise writes:

I was in two minds about why Jon killed himself. I thought it might have been a sudden fit of reactive depression based around the poor critic/fan reception of "Reinkaos". I notice Set Taitan has stopped trying to look like Mini-Jon and has legged it back to Aborym where he belongs.
Then I remembered Jon's speech from Wacken 2005 - "No Remorse, No Compromise" - and his triumphant expression when Dissection shredded the Scala in London December 2004 (even the mighty Watain couldn't blow them offstage). This is a man who knew exactly what he was doing and didn't give a toss what anyone else thought about it. He kept his head down and did his time, then ended it when he was ready. We/you can b**** and moan and troll and flame forever about whether or not he was a bad man (probably) or a bad musician (certainly not). In fact, let's. Chaos and Left-Hand-Path power comes from conflict and negativity.
I suspect he's looking down, or up at all the confusion and vitriol his death has engendered and is laughing his ethereal arse off. Stir it up, b****es!

# Aug 29, 2006 @ 5:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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143. Blackgoddessarise writes:

By the way...

Post 108 " And if the British had their way we'd be speaking English..."

What's that you're typing there sunshine? Martian?

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144. Graveyard Disciple writes:

Read a few of these comments and I will state that I've never heard these guys, but to mourn and celebrate a murderer who killed himself just seems ridiculously insane. A lot of people are telling non-fans thats "he's dead you should respect him" I just want to state that great musician or not the guy killed himself and to respect a guy because he's dead is ridiculous. I'm gonna check out some of Dissections music and if I like it I'll give the man respect for making good music and being a good musician. As far as him as a person I can't respect the guy , he murdered someone, took another life for no good reason and then took a cowards way out. I think the people that are on here attacking the man and his fans are just plain ignorant, and I don't mean by calling him a murderer, thats just facts. I feel sorry and sad for the people who were close to him and his fans because they lost somebody they cared about. You can call me whatever you want, disrespectful, ignorant etc. It's all just opinion.

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145. psythe writes:

lol thanks for picking up on my point, Blackgoddessarise...

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146. shredher writes:

RIP, he WAS a great GUITAR player,...

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147. hellofromthegutter writes:

He really wasn't a good guitarist.. Alex Skolnick and Jeff Loomis are/were great guitarists.. Aaron Jellum of Laaz Rockit and Ron Jarzombek were/are great guitarists.. Jon was just a failure as a person and a horrible guitarist.

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148. Blackgoddessarise writes:

Hehe no worries psythe. I can see your point though given that this is an international site and I suspect a lot of people are not typing in their home language, just using English for the sake of convenience. I'm just a filthy Brit Pedant :-)

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149. slayerdisciple writes:

he wasnt a horrible guitarist, hes no Alexi Lahio or Steve Vai but he was no Dave Navaro neither he was alright

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150. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Um...He was imprisoned for killing a gay dude...Why did he kill the gay dude?

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151. Azazel_Begotten writes:

hellofromthegutter, So he killed the guy just for being gay? WTF?

If his music is good thats cool, but I can't respect a guy who kills some dude based on discrimination. I mean, if he can get respect after that, he might as well have killed some dude for being black or something.

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152. Blackgoddessarise writes:

Azrael_Begotten: You've summed up the whole thread there. I think it's possible to respect someone's artistic output and still think they're a prat. Look at Burzum. People still buy the albums but nobody gives a toss about reading "Vargsmal".
I feel really sorry for Jon's family. They've had to put up with a hell of a lot, and this will just hang over them for the rest of their lives.

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153. slayerdisciple writes:

Azazel_Begotten where u been? yes it is hard to respect him for wat he did but i respect him as a musician

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154. Johnny Top writes:

Dissection was a cool band but the recently released"come-back" album got some bad reviews, at least he doesn't have to read them anymore now, suicide is for the weakest of minds, as macho as Jon tried to be in his looks and attitude with all the satan crap, he really turned out to be a complete whimp, F*CK suicide, F*CK idolising this loser!

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155. ! writes:

one less swedish fag on the planet. rot in hell, you will.

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156. Balan writes:

For all you out there who can't respect a fallen individual, why don't you shut up and keep your peace. For crying out loud, don't judge a man for any reason, because judging is wrong, in any case of the matter. If you disagree, keep it to yourself. Respect, people, give some bloody respect! Respect isn't something earned...its like common courtesy...how would you like it if you died, and people shamed you? Think for others, not yourself. If anybody wants to know why the world is in a sh**hole right now, its because of poeple like this: dimwitted, ignorant people who thrive of the suffering of others and fail to show compassion to his fellow man. Not religion, or money, or politics, but the plain outright fact that humanity is an ignorant race (I speak for us all, we are all imperfect), and we cause the downslides with our shameful attitudes. This is not opinion, but fact. Keep your mouth shuts if you can't give proper respects. Murderor or not, we are all human. Ignorant comments like the one's I hear on this board to a man that just died -and I disagree on some of the things he did, but I am a forgiving person- are a pet peeve of mine. Crap like that triggers my anger. Suppose I start a forum on Katrina victums... are the rest of you dingbats gonna crap talk them as well? You know what, do something constructive for the time. I actually knew the man, and how human he was, and for that, he is to be mourned and respected properly. Go somewhere else if you can't act your freage and give proper respect!

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157. Balan writes:

oh, and for those now internationally gifted with english slang, 'freage' is another way to say 'freaking age'. There, you are now one step further away from being dumb, because you now know something! By the way, thank you all on this list who actually posted decent comments. RIP Jon!

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158. metal_fiend writes:

hello all,
just a comment about the satanism debate.... I understand you have your reasons to to call ingrained animal instincts satanism. But in actual logical fact thats what they are, animal instincts.... Why not call yourself mammals.. I know most of the pathetic excuses for human beings out there are too mammals, they can barely be called their former selves. But they are the materialistic blind ones. When all this sh** crumbles and you have to truly revert to your animal nature will you still call yourselves satanists.. or will you call yourselvs animals with a right to kill or injure your oppressors.. Something to ponder perhaps... By the way I just found a new band, ORIGIN they f***ing rule..

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159. Fronk writes:

So, Jon killed a gay guy. He's a homophobe. So, if South Park were right about Hell and Satan, does that mean Jon will kill Satan when he gets to Hell too? Who knows.

I heard somewhere(not a reliable source) that the gay guy was trying to come on to either Jon or Vlad. Still, even if that is the case, it still doesn't justify killin the guy.

Oh well, what's done is done. I feel sorry more for Jons family and friends. Screw him. He's dead. His problems are over. I read that he performed a ritualistic suicide. With candles, the satanic bible and all that mumbo jumbo. But with a gun! I would've imagined he'd use a sacrifical blade or somethin'. Anyway, it's the death of DISSECTION which saddens me, not Jon's death. Remember DISSECTION. Forget Jon.

DISSECTION FOREVER!!!!!! and weed.

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160. metal_fiend writes:

balan,

i didnt know Jon, nor hav i heard dissection's music... I do not agree with what he did to that gay man but i understand that we all make mistakes... I agree wholheartedly with you, about our race being disgustingly ignorant and the unbelievalble lack of compassion being show in the world right now.. obviously Jons beliefs had little or nothing to do with his death... I believe with any suicide, whether it be ritual or not, the person must have a lot of pain, anguish, depression and so on to do such a thing. The person has made a choice, and should not be shamed for this choice.. To all you idiots that have shamed him, why just not say anything at all, tis much more respectfull, and alot less hurtfull....

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161. Terminator writes:

metal_fiend, balan-- i agree with both of you. i have zero respect for jon's actions in killing a gay man. i never knew jon, but he may have been a descent person, this event is all i really have to judge him on. and to everyone who has ripped on jon for committing suicide or for being a satanist: personally, i am an atheist. i am also pro choice, that means i believe that if someone wants to end their life, then fine let 'em, thats their choice and there must be substantial reasons for them to take that course of action. if someone has no more desire to live, why should they live? and who are you to tell them that they must LIVE? or that they must die for that matter? and some of you are getting on him for slaughtering animals for a religious purpose? tell me, how many millions of turkey's are slaughtered each year for christmas? and potatos brutally murdered for jewish patoto pancakes (or whatever those things are called)?

psychologically, depression is no different than terminal cancer in my book. however, even this theory has exceptions. terrorism suicide or any other suicide that inflicts physical harm upon another individual that doesnt want to die or be harmed is 100% unacceptable. even if killing is a natural instinct, the fact is is that humans do not depend so heavily on the laws of nature for our existence anymore. yes, they will always be with us and we will react according with those laws, naturaly, but we have evolved and, like us, so have our laws. our laws are now based more on ethics and morals than survival. our lives are more controlled, so to speak. murder is wrong to me, but death is not (yes, i know that is a bit hypocritical, especially since both are natural and i am a naturalist). death is one of the primary necessities in surviving the species. without it, our earth will become over populated and a mass extinction could occur. death is nature's "immune system" i guess. so maybe jon did do us a favor, maybe his life is better now and maybe his friends and family are both understanding and devastated. bottom line is that even though he is dead and dissection is disbanded, dissection's music will forever live on. thus the "godlike" power of music. it is immortal, something most people wish to achieve in someway shape or form and the basis by which most religions were founded.

sorry everyone, rant over.

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162. psythe writes:

Eternity would be a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there...

loved your point about turkeys, Terminator, that amused me no end.

And Fronk, I believe that the shotgun etc etc (ie how the suicide occurred) was a tribute to a certain man from a certain band (cough-Mayhem-cough...).

And yes, Death is as much a saviour as any other.

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163. Bijay writes:

extremely shocked by this news.......RIP Jon and condolences to his families and band members.

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164. Balan writes:

Another note, we are ALL murderors. I'm willing to bet that with proper inspiration, any one of us would snap and kill someone, or whatever your methods of mayhem may be towards that person. The thing is, none of us has done the act yet...I know I could, with proper motivation, and I'm aware of it. It's something I deal with. Personally, I believe everyone, whether Satanist (I've been there. I still have copies of the Coroner's version of the Cthulu Mythos that still fascinate me for research purposes) as well as Christianity (That of which I am right now, which may surprise some people) and other religions of the sort should all be given equal respect. Personally, I have one philosophy: "It is better to believ in something that strives you to higher ground, than to have never believed at all' (no offense to atheist). Maybe Jon had a touch of mystism or satanist to him, but that doesn't mean we treat him like so many people have. Often, people aren't naturally dark and crazy, but are driven there. I know, I've been treated like crap all the way through high school and on, simply because I was different. Jon was certainly human, and sometimes, though headstrong he may be, he often fell into pits of depression, and of course, we know where the end of that road is. Personally, even though the man looked strong and proud, even to the point where he said he was gonna do it (which he did) in a serious manner, he still couldn't hide the fact that deep inside he had pent-up rage in him. He needed help, and I understand that. I never held anything against the man, and you know, a grudge is the biggest waste of emotion and willpower when its easier to say 'awww, forget it, it doesn't matter'. Hey, if you hold a grudge against him simply for his religious beliefs, what do you have to say for yourselves, hmmm? Judging by the size of this forum, i assume there are people that do care. I can't understand why those who can't mourn the man properly even bother posting...ha, lol, sorry. I blathered too much. It's just that stuff like this peeves me. Oh well, gotta jet.

RIP. Jon Nodtveidt. Hviss lyset tarr Oss...will the light ever take us...

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165. Terminator writes:

balan-- i know you meant no offense to atheists with your "believe" comment, but just because i dont have a diety doesnt mean that i dont strive to be the best person i can be. i have morals and ethics and i dont need a faith to give those to me. i am content with my beliefs and i know who i am. it is my personal ambitions and life goals that make me strive to higher ground, so obviously i disagree with that statement.

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166. slayerdisciple writes:

^^ agreed, a religion doesnt make u a better person

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167. Oppression is the holy law/ In God I distrust writes:

Religion is hate
Religion is fear
Religion is war
Religion is rape
Religion's obscure
Religion's a whore

There is no f***in' Jesus Christ
There never was a sacrifice
No man upon the crucifix
Beware the cult of purity
Infectious inbecility
I've made my choice. Six six six

FU.CK SATAN
JON IS A LOSER

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168. Lutt_Ziffer writes:

JON, may you rest in anti-cosmic chaos...
We will miss You ! MLO...is the f+cking LAW !!! -666-
...and by the way: F+CK THOSE HATERS OUT THERE ! Stupid motherf+ckrs,
why don't you try to stick your face in your a+s...see if it fits, a+sholes !!!

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169. WInterEveningStorm writes:

Like many others I speculate if this was all planned somehow. It´d be well nigh impossible for Dissection to reestablish their authority within the scene at this point in time, and "Reinkaos" confirms this, if nothing else. If this was indeed the final act of a greater scheme to attain martyrdom, well, it makes sense to wait until released from prison to gain maximum effect! If not, perhaps he found that too much has changed and what he once had can never be reclaimed. Being the perfectionist that he was, that might have proved too much. No need to talk trash about people who can no longer defend themselves, regardless of whether you approve of his actions. Those who do show true colors, and really shouln´t be taken seriously. Personally, I don´t give a rat´s a$$ about an Algerian fag, but I wouldn´t kill him either. Unless he made a pass at me, of course ;-) . Let´s enjoy the legacy Nödtveidt left us with "Somberlain" and "Storm...". After all, metal is all about the music. Nothing more, nothing less. Cheers, Jon, and save a seat for me.

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170. Balan writes:

I agree. With what you say. But am a disbeliever in religion, but certainly not Jesus Christ. It is historical fact that he died for me, and I respect that. If someone gave there heart to me so I could live and they pass on, to deny them at least the respect wouldn't be anything less than an ungrateful spit in the face. The reason why people hate religion is because of stupid terrorists who kill in the name of God, Jesus, or Allah, which is stupid: God doesn't ask us to kill, and those who believe he does are suffering from what philosophers describe as 'agnosia, or the blinded eye', where they believe they are doing God service, but in truth, they cause suffering, which he does not like. God is no criminal, nor is Jesus...it's those who go in his name and pretend to be holy when in fact they are the wolves in sheeps clothing. I differ from most Christians because I remain open and as biased (neutral) as possible. If not anything else, I believe because it strives me to be a better person, and thats that. My best friends are all metalheads who could give twice a flip about my beliefs, but thats because I don't run around saying you have to believe in this or that...stupid freaking humanity and its bloody religion and ignorance causes wars (thus, you see some rude comments on this list, and I quote: 'Lookee, some religious fag...' ...As if they couldn't get any more immature...) and twists the minds of people (which is the real reason why Jon committed suicide, because he was in need in the mental department, not that he was dumb or anything). Here's a fact, and thats that God himself is dissapointed in religion and the world today, and I quote: "Oh my children, for you have dispersed among yourselves...". Clearly, he disagrees with this whole stupid 'Jihad' (holy war) as much as the next person. Oh, and for the guy who posted the Slayer tune: I agree with the religion is hate and war and such, but don't rap on Jesus: Slayer obviously doesn't know that Jesus Christ and the crucifixtion was actually a historical event, so I disagree with them blaming Jesus, cause he has done absolutely nothing, plain and simple. Poeple just blame him to justify themselves...but I don't. Watch now, a whole bunch of anti-religious freaks (who are another problem) are gonna rap me now, lol. I betcha Jon is probably somewhere laughing his a$$ off. Hey, he's probably grateful, since when does a 'believer' stick up for the man, hmmm? Like I said a few posts ago...some ignorant people should do something more constructive instead of posting stup[id insulting comments and hampering God. I for one, am smarter than that.

Balan (the icy claws at your back seek to comfort but only tear...)

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171. kev74d writes:

I normally don't post a comment after 20-30 or so have been posted. But I read "most" of the comments here and I don't know what to say. People are strange. People require alot of attention. So much that they get off the subject of the topic at hand.

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172. Azazel_Begotten writes:

slayerdisciple, I know its been awhile since I last was here...I've been having issues in real life that needed my attention (Oddly enough, a friend ov mine has been planning suicide, and right now, he's in some mental facility for his clinical depression. Now I've been helping his mother/godmother/grandmother out in the house since he's been committed)...RIght now, I'm trying to get back to my normal posting...Anyway, I understand he's a good musician, but he's still f***ed up for killing a random gay dude...

Hey, where are all the people I remember posting with? I know RememberMetal? and Psythe are now mods...Congrats to you 2...Anyone know where BLACKDOG has been? Or Zos Kia Kultus/War Ensemble? sh**, whatever happened to LordAgony? Is he still being lame and posting obsessively about how he hates Korn?

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173. Hilbrandt writes:

Suicide in metal is a perfectly normal thing, its very logic that a music genre that can be so dark en agressive is often played by confused and angry people who realise life itself is pointless.
So get over it, it will happen again.

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174. Kailen_falter_rules writes:

haha, this forum is funny i have not laughed this hard seince blue collar comedy tour. lol lol lol. i swear, someone should start a soap opera forum, imagine the possibilities...lol

oh...rip Jon....i think he would laugh with amuzement if he saw this forum....

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175. Balan writes:

Oh, one last thing. For you, godlike, whoever you are...don't ever dis Jon like this again: 'I still was under the impression that we were still talking about this idiot/murderer from Dissection that did the world a favor and offed himself....'

Understand? Go off and get carpal tunnel somewhere, its probably what your best at, oh, and thank you Emperor4ever for setting the story straight to those who didn't know. Oh, and for the record, Jon wasn't quite satanic...he was a reader of a Grimoire, an ancient book of spell, demons, and such. Modern version goes by a name you might know: the Necronomicon (Chtulu Mythos to some, which I still have coroner copies of). SO he was more into mystism than anything.
Okay, have fun ranting away. Nobody is listening by now....

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176. slayerdisciple writes:

dude that sux man bout ur friend, no Zos Kia Kultus doesnt seem to get on his comp. anymore hes not answerin myspace, blackdog still gets on, havnt seen LA in a while, and rulin kmadd seems to occupy himself with bashin a7x

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177. BLACKDOG writes:

Still here Azazel.Although not posting quite as frequently.How you been man ?

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178. psythe writes:

Havn't seen Spirit Of The Elder Gods in a while either. He almost became a regular. And Brad comes on every once in a while to pay everybody out in his usual original way and tell us about a few bands we've never heard of.

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179. Horrorscope66 writes:

Karma brother Karma

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180. Azazel_Begotten writes:

First off, Who is Red Devil? And why is he spamming like he's got OCD?

Slayerdisciple, I actually miss Zos Kia Kultus. Yeah, I'm told my friend is doing better in the mental place. kmadd bashing a7x huh? Okay, I'm gonna be honest, when I first heard A7X and saw that one video, I was under the impression they were some more scene kids or something, but I saw the video for "Seize the Day", I'm gonna be honest with you, I like the guitarist's skill he showed in the song, though I do think they're trying to be another G&R...

BLACKDOG, My god it has been forever and all kinds ov sh** has been happening...

to the both ov you, I have a new forum site up and running called Youth-Ink (Online Community sh**) I would definitely love to see the both ov you on there, as well as anyone else from here who gives a sh**

http://www.youth-ink.tk/

http://s9.invisionfree.com/youth_ink/

use whichever URL, it takes you to the same place. Feel free to join and post whatever. I even have a Pr0n section and a Death/Gore Section. And feel free to add your own individual touches to my site. And I can never have enough members to the site. Its got moderate success so far. And I'd definitely LOVE to see you guys there

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181. BLACKDOG writes:

OUTSTANDING ! I just might stop over Azazel.....On another note HOW THE HELL DOES THAT RETARD KEEP GETTING IN !!!!!!!!!! BAN THAT MAN PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Sep 6, 2006 @ 10:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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182. psythe writes:

Deathbringer's working on it, but he's a busy man. For the meantime, we'll be deleting his posts, so just ignore them. Pretend like they aren't there, because they won't be, before too long.

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183. thisguy writes:

HATRED IS A WEAKNESS, AND YOU BECOME THE VICTIM! THIS 666 STUFF IS GETTING OLD....you need to stop wearing your black uniforms, dressing all in black..., and wearing make up just to "try" to scare people away...its very ignorant, i feel sorry for people who want attention dooing that. also, first of all...to all these devil loving guys/girls in here, just """""STOP"""""" take a look at what your getting yourself into. one day we will all be judged. just make sure your correct in what your believing...if you've convinced yourself that you cant possibly be wrong, than so be it, its your choice. you know, i think than satanists have a hatred towards god that doesent make any kind of sense...this is common sense....(why would any person want to believ in a beast surrounded by flames who is full of hate?) then again, some people choose to do so...again, lol its not my problem, its yours...check yourself. and for that guy killing a homosexual, yes, it was wrong, but havent you ever thought that he had this thought pounding into his head everyday...( youve killed a man...youve killed a man) alot of people cant live with those thoughts. mayeby he commited suicide because he couldent take it anymore. the path that leads before you is your choice and dont say i didnt warn you. and about hitler, why respect the man? hese a monster...many of you could say, that he accomplished many things, but in all fairness, he murdered familys, that is a man that should be forgotten. alen schwatznek, he invented an artificial heart, hese a good guy...check him out. so ill leave it at that. later........

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184. coco writes:

so ppl mourn the death of thios sh**ten musician with no talent. in case you did'nt notice he killed a fag.

dissection is like the SLAYER=S-HIT of black metal...........

listen to dimmu, cradle o filth and children of bodom

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185. coco writes:

but he got me respect, wanna know why?

BECAUSE HE KILLLED HIS PATHETIC EXISTENCE DAT GIVE A BAD NAME TO SUCH A GENRE AS BLACK METAL..........

he did us a favor........(and don't f*** with me, cuz i had heard this band a lot of times reinkaos is da worst of all black metal).............

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186. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

pysthe buddy speak the devils name and he shall appear i am always keepimg a watching brief when one of you pions says some dumb a$$ sh** that needs my wisdom and guidance i will be there like an elder gods should be later...........

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187. Diamond Oz writes:

Let's all just calm down and a have cup of tea or a pint yeah?

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188. coco writes:

i'm goint ta tell you, that i got homophobia, but i would not go this far......

his death mark black metal great upcomin success, and the dawn of a new legacy has started.

simply cuz the closet fag killed himself(yesssssssss)

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189. slayerdisciple writes:

coco how do u call reinkaos a black metal album? that may be the st. anger of black metal but The storm of lights bane is the master of puppets of black metal, dissection are gods

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190. Jon Nödtveidt writes:

Too many haters in here ... I'm outta here!

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191. Azazel_Begotten writes:

For some reason, a guy who posts under a username as gay as 'coco' gets to say he hates Homosexuals?

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192. slayerdisciple writes:

seariously dude, if anyone on this site is gay its that fag and red devil

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193. coco writes:

azazel azazel azazel.......i supposse ye know the true meanin of that gay a$$ name don't you......

yeah.....i'm talkin about yours so i'll tell you what it means(but i'm pretty sure your gay a$$ knows that)

Azazel:
According to the Book of Enoch, Azazel was one of the grigori (also known as "watchers"), a group of fallen angels who mated with mortal women, giving rise to a race of hybrids known as the Nephilim. Azazel is particularly noteworthy among the grigori because it was he who taught men how to make weapons of war, as well as teaching women how to make and wear cosmetics. Eventually, Azazel's teachings created such iniquity that God decided to destroy all life on Earth with Noah's Flood. Micheal Knibb lists the translation of his name as “The evening of God”. Other lists translate his name as arrogant towards God; the combination of azaz [as a negative partivcle] and El 'God'. Azazel is believed to have two other names in the Book of Enoch which are Rameel ('morning of God'), and Gadriel ('wall of God') this is based on those names haveing the same titles and functions.

now check this one out:"as well as teaching women how to make and wear cosmetics"

so therefore he was draq queen transvetite fag who wears maybelline........

so therefore coco thinks you should take that comment up your candy culo, cuz you just got yer draq queen a$$ own.....WAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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194. coco writes:

hahahahahhaha.......that was hilarious...

oh and slayerdisciple yer name depicts your gay a$$ taste in SLAYER=S-HIT so shut the f*** up......you "azazel anal probe" buddy......

hahahhahahhahahahhhahhaha..............

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195. coco writes:

and by da way if you don't like my name then call me lloyd.........

your f***in asses knows that.......sheesh

by da way all of dissection albums sucks orangutan tits

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196. Anti-Slayer writes:

Lol, oh man that was hilarious.

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197. Anti-Slayer writes:

Oh and Coco, by my name you can tell i don't like Slayer, either. They blows so much ass. As much as this crappy a$$ "black metal" sh**(Dissection).

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198. Anti-Slayer writes:

But i'll tell you some true black metal:

Cradle of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Immortal
Bathory

try those.

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199. budac12 writes:

Cradle of filth... Dimmu Borgir... what´s up with you f***er?? DIssection is black metal no bullsh** you a$$hole. What a shame Jon killed himself instead of you "Anti-Slayer".

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200. slayerdisciple writes:

Immortal and Bathory maybe true black metal but Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir arnt dumbsh** (however they are awesome) go kiss lloyds a$$ some more, and lloyd (yea we know ur name) because i like slayer that judges my character now and means im gay? if anyone is gay its u cause all u talk bout is suckin d***s and transvestites it kinda makes us wonder if those turn u on, and reinkaos was the only sucky dissection album (r.i.p. jon)

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201. Terminator writes:

how can you talk about black metal without mentioning Mercyful Fate/King Diamond and Venom?!? without them, there never would have been a dissection, not that i like dissection's music, i dont.

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202. slayerdisciple writes:

ur right terminator except about king diamond i think it was just mercyful fate but we arnt talkin bout the orgins of black metal were still talkin bout dissection

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203. Blackgoddessarise writes:

Just got back from seeing Enslaved supported by Zyklon, 1349, and Insomnium. As you can tell from the name, I like CoF. However, symphonic hammer-horror BM such as Cradle, Dimmu and Graveworm hold a very different place in my heart compared to bands like Satyricon, Darkthrone, Emperor, Enslaved, Mayhem, early Dissection, and Watain. Some music is good music. Other music is a spiritual experience.

I'm with Diamond Oz. People should stop being so aggressive and join in the tea drinking. Mine's milk, no sugar.

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204. Blackgoddessarise writes:

Interesting. Coco and Antislayer appear to be posting from the same IP address.

# Sep 8, 2006 @ 9:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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205. Azazel_Begotten writes:

coco, are you aware ov how many people have pasted that same info on Azazel? Like I don't know already...Why do you think I chose this name idiot?

And so what, if you wanna use a phrase saying he taught women how to make cosmetics, what about teaching man how to make weapons? So what, does that make him bisexual then? You're also ignoring the part that says he mated with mortal WOMEN?

coco, I don't know why you're talking about Black Metal when you obviously know nothing...

Terminator and slayerdisciple got the story right...

Don't get me wrong, I love CoF and Dimmu just the same...And though they are Black Metal (CoF being Melodic Black, and Dimmu being Symphonic Black), they definitely aren't the core bands you should thank for Black Metal's existence. They are only responsible for making Black Metal more popular for you mainstream types who look at the NEW Headbangers Ball, and shop at Hot Topic and buy the 'Metal For the Masses' compilations sold by the Century Family.

coco, like I've told the mortals before you for years on end, speak what you know kid.

Hey, can anyone tell me if this coco character is an alter ov that Timmy person that we all knew and loved back in the day?

Now, mind you, I have yet to hear Dissection, and I will not judge the man's music by his actions...But he did kill a gay guy for no reason, and I don't like hearing that...And just so you guys know where I stand...(I'm saying all this as a somewhat heterosexual, multiracial Black/Mexican/Shoshone Indian/Whatever else is in my bloodline MAN) I see all people as my equals regardless ov Race, Religion, Sexuality, or Sexual Origin and whatnot, so long as they are good people...I believe Metal should be the place where no one should worry about whether or not the music is against them due to their individual diversities. I mean come on, Rob Halford ov Judas Priest is openly gay...'Nuff said

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206. thisguy writes:

i feel sorry for the guy. i really do........

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207. Blackgoddessarise writes:

Good skills Azazel. I agree with everything you say apart from CoF not being symphonic BM - they use real orchestras as well as keyboards - how much more symphonic do you want?!? :-)

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208. Horrorscope66 writes:

Tell me the BNR pages are not lost forever?????????

Overkill is the blackest of black metal bands.

Stryper was almost on top when they released 'Against the Law'.

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209. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Blackgoddess, thanks for the suopport

But CoF, though they use alot ov orchestras and such, they don't really use them enough in their albums to be Symphonic. They also use more choruses than anything...And their guitarists' instrumental styles make them more melodic than anything, though I will admit, one can put them under symphonic, but thats only if you base it on the songs that are symphonic specifically...

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210. Balan writes:

I said it before. Who cares if he killed? Who cares if the man's black metal (whether he is/was/ever was/etc) was crappy or not (not Storm of the Light's Bane, mind you). This is a site where Jon Nodtveidt should be properly mourned with respect, love, and compassion. Hey, it ain't f***ing manly to beak off about the man, but it sure as heck IS manly to open up and give proper respects. I'm still seeing disrespectful people on this list...Forgive people...forgive, forget, and love! For f*** sakes, is that too hard a concept for you to get, or are you all brainwashed by your own pathetic antic's? (I know I'm not one to completely stay on topic) Can we stop talking crap about the man now? Seriously, this is stupid. Grow up and go somewhere else if you aren't gonna show proper respect. I said it before, I'll say it again...The ignorance of mankind is a problem, and this bloody forum is testament to it, the true reason why this world is in turmoil...plain and simple. People on this list are part of the problem, which I don't plan to be one of...

Oh, and why are you talking about COF and Dimmu? Those are both the biggest sellouts in blackmetal. Don't even get me started with Satyricon's newest album either....

R.I.P. Jon Nodtveidt...he's probably laughing at you right now.

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211. Dude_wheres_my_car writes:

Whoa dude, am i in the wrong forum or what? this is funny

whats COF or dimmu?

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212. slayerdisciple writes:

Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir, biggest sellouts? Cradle maybe but not Dimmu Borgir

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213. psythe writes:

I would agree that Cradle have stepped a long way from their Black Metal roots, but I'm not quite sure how Dimmu Borgir have 'sold out'? Enlighten me, please. I havn't listened to the new COF material, but on that thread there's people saying it's a return to form of some sorts?...

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214. psythe writes:

Azazel - high five for not being homophobic, hahah. The way I see it, we're all born equal, and that doesn't change because of who you are as a person. Perhaps for what you've done as a person, if, for example, you've murdered somebody purely for their sexual preference being different to yours...

# Sep 10, 2006 @ 12:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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215. Azazel_Begotten writes:

psythe----
After almost f***ing a transsexual, it really made me think about the concepts ov sexuality...I had to do a lot ov questioning and self-searching, then I joined a TG (TransGendered) Site to figure mtself out and learn about TGs, and thats when I figured it out (Plus I made a whole other bunch ov new friends since I was the only Straight/Normal Guy on the site that had no other reason to be there other than to learn sh**). But I learned that sex is between your legs and gender, between your ears, Male and Female doesn't just mean what parts you were born with, but also what your brain chemistry is like (TGs are literally Female brains born in Male bodies and vice versa. So there's a whole other concept ov Sex and Gender that needs to be better understood). But after I figured my sexuality out, I became content. Basically, you can be heterosexual (which means you like p***y), but you can also be someone that likes p***y, but prefers masculinity. But I'm basically a straight man, and I love women and the feminine form (I sure as hell don't like men or masculinity). But I also figured out, people have to accept MtF (Male to Female) TGs as women as well (since its been proven that TGs are born with female brains, just in Male bodies), so I accepted MtFs as women too (because its true). So in summary, I love women, and I'll date/f*** MtF TGs, because they're women too...

(I know its complicated, and I'm not expecting anyone to get it. But if you get it congratulations. If you don't get it but wanna figure it out, you can go to the site I went to when I had questions--- http://www.tgguide.com/ ---and go to the message board section)

psythe, I have no beef with anyone for their diversity, I just really hate rapists and pedophiles/child molestors...I had to talk to a lot ov rape victims...Not intentionally, I'll be friends or something and then they tell me sh** in confidence like "What my dad did to me when mom was gone...What my ex did last time I wanted to break up with him...What some random guy did to me when he laced my drink with date-rape drugs...". Sometimes I get tired ov hearing new stories like that, especially since I have 2 rape stories ov my own. No I was never raped, but 2 girls I was really close to were raped, the first girl died from the ecstasy that the guy slipped in her drink at a party...He was stabbed to death a week later. And the other girl was raped by her ex because she left him for me...He died too...Gotta love Karma

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216. Terminator writes:

i dont know what to say azazel--sh** my life seems simple. sounds like you live in hell. sorry man.

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217. psythe writes:

Rape is bullsh** and should never happen. It's the one crime I'll judge someone on - other than that, if someone's a criminal I get interested about why they did what they did. Rapists just disgust me. My ex was actually sexually abused, and f*** does it do damage to a person.

As for what constitutes femininity/masculinity, I was aware that there was more to it than merely having a set of testicles (speaking for myself only, obviously, I bet there's heaps of people that would read what you said and have no clue at all). Contrary to popular belief, sexuality is a spectrum; some people are closer to the homosexual tendency than others, some more heterosexual, but nobody is (as most will claim they are) completely straight, nor indeed completely gay. All I can say is that, in a world where understanding sexuality is almost taboo, congratulations for going the hard yards and learning for yourself who you really are.

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218. Blackgoddessarise writes:

Balan - It should be impossible to sell out in a genre that runs on self-determination, elitism, and subversion of the norm. Satyricon are untouchable in this because they have stayed true to their ideology and have kept their kvlt credibility while demonstrating to a massively wider audience that they are not only damn good at what they do but also have done it on their own terms with no compromises. I suppose your BM band are so leet and kvlt that your releases are recorded on a dictaphone in a tin bath in your mum's basement and released in hand-crayoned limited editions of 1, because the world's not ready for your Nordic Wrath?

Burning churches is all very well to get you noticed, but once your genre is known it's time to start undermining the system from within and that's what Satyricon, Darkthrone, Emperor, Cradle (to a certain lesser point), and Mayhem do. Even uberundergrounders like Gorgoroth understand that to get the message into the slaves' consciousness it has to be heard. How can you be elite if nobody knows who you are?

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219. Blackgoddessarise writes:

"But if you get it congratulations."
Azazel - It sounds like you're the one who deserves congratulations. There aren't many people as openminded and caring as you out there. Respect.

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220. BLACKDOG writes:

As usual azazel you've proven yourself wise beyond your years and in that quite impressive.It takes alot of gut's to look into that simply for the sake of personal info.That is seriously admirable.Most people would simply denounce it and be as ignorant as possible about it.

When it's all been saide and done at the end of the day you are into what you are into.As long as your dealing with a like minded individual and knowones being hurt then thiers nothing to be ashamed of.Unfortunatley alot of people don't see it that way but that's there problem.Perfect example.A friend of mine and his girlfriend are swinger's.They don't bother anybody and other than that have a pretty normal everyday life besides the fact that they don't have a problem with shareing so to speak.

Recently someone took it upon themselves to out them .So now my friend and his now fiance had to hold off on wedding plan's because they had to move.Not to mention file sexual harrasment charges against her employer etc.This beg's the question what for ? They were not bothering anyone & in fact they were extremely picky about who they did this stuff with.They arent the type you hear about that go to parties and thing's like that.

The world is full of all kind's of different people.Alot of the people in the world and this country especially need to get over it.

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221. Azazel_Begotten writes:

OKAY! TO ANY MODS READING THIS, I MADE A POST RIGHT AFTER PSYTHE'S AND IT JUST DISAPPEARED, AND MAKING THE USUAL LONG a$$ POSTS I MAKE IS NO FUN WHEN IT JUST VANISHES. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME ITS HAPPENED.

psythe---I REALLY HATE RAPE. I even support the execution ov rapists...

and yeah, I was glad to figure myself out...

BLACKDOG---Thanks again and I totally agree with everything you've said. And the bad part was that I was 15 when the TG thing happened. I didn't figure it out until some time this year when I turned 17.

The swinger's boss thing is f*cked up. Mind you, I'm really REALLY MONOGAMOUS, and I tell you, they must be really secure about their relationship, because 'sharing' my woman would just feel wrong to me on so many levels, that I'd have to fight a boss or two (4LL 7H3 G4M3RZ got that little one-liner). But even though its definitely not my thing, I can't tell them what they can't do, especially if they are both consenting...Like Scat fetishes, I wouldn't do it, but I can't set people on my PERSONAL LIMITS...

Can we legalize gay marriage already? Goddamn...And if a Transsxual wants to put 'female' on the form, intstead ov 'male', let her do it!

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222. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Terminator, life sucks for me alot lately. I used to wanna die, but every time I do the wrong thing, I think ov my girl, and I don't do it...Or I just feel mounds ov guilt...I remember this year, early morning the eve ov my 17th birthday, I was about to kill myself and jump off some building, and I saw my girl in my mind, and I got down from the edge...That moment was intense...

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223. BLACKDOG writes:

Damn dude I'm glad something pulled you back....On another note I agree I could not share my woman either.Don't know how anybody could.I guess the lizard braine has to kick in sooner or later.

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224. Terminator writes:

ahh...love being a teenager. i respect you for struggling through all of your hardships. one would think (or hope) that the future has brighter days ahead. and believe me, i can understand wanting to commit suicide, i almost did myself. i had no friends and no girlfriend, and i was stuck in a sea of depression. my family was there for me, but it didnt seem to matter. i was stuck in the middle of society, i could relate to every group, but i didnt really fit in with any group. then i started getting into ancient history and music and picked up the guitar and my life has been much better ever since. hang in there, you're not alone.

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225. Azazel_Begotten writes:

BLACKDOG and Terminator---Thank you for your support...Terminator, I totally know what its like to feel completely alone, then Stefanie came into my life...(For the record, all my depression and suicidal tendencies shouldn't put me under 'EMO'... :-P)

thisguy---Why are you on this site? You've brought no useful input...

You know, I'm starting to think maybe his death wasn't out ov desperation or depression, from what I've learned about him, he was all about cyclic phases ov life, maybe he wanted to die in order to be reborn and try again in the cycle, or next life. Or he could've done it to break the cycle somehow...

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226. psythe writes:

I'm actually not particularly monogamous. I have no problems with sharing/swinging/whatever. Probably couldn't explain why, but there you go...

I'm not a fan of suicide, though, so I'm glad you guys didnt go through with it - it's not that I think it's the cowards way out or any of that bullsh**. I just think the potential loss of a person's capabilities and capacities and all the rest of it to the world is immeasurable. Each and every human has so much to offer to the world that when somebody commits suicide, all I can think is "what a waste". Who knows what they might have done for us all? Or we for them?

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227. BLACKDOG writes:

I never saide I was monogamous.I just saide I don't share.Call me an Evil Male.But my woman is my woman I may cheat here and there like most guy's but I'm not married either.In the imortal word's of Gene Simmons"It's a dirty job but somebodies gotta do it."

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228. SyphilisOminous writes:

Longlive Jon! Rest in Peace, metal scene lost another great musician!
Dissection is pure cult! Damn I missed their last show...

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229. coco writes:

(sob, sniff, boo hoo, wah, goo gaga).....

WAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA........what a marvelous tale of pathetic Emo lifes,

(sarcasm)WAAAAAAAAAAA........I WANNA DIE I GOT NO FRIENDS OHHHHHH WAH(sarcasm)

ah shut da f*** up you faggy emo douches, nobody hear wanna hear your whining, sheesh.....

azazel, i'm gonna tell you this, bro, i don't give a f*** if i'm offendin you , and it not my intention, but...............YOU SHOULD HAVE JUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!! for sh** sakes why are you still alive makin a fool out of yourself and come act like da goddam victim here.....

why...........wait wait wait wait hold on a second, psythe considering the fact dat you and i have gone thru alot of conflicts in the past when i first got here, you remember those days don't ya, when we fought in S-HIT(slayer) threads, so i believe we already got a history with each other but i never thought i'll see you as an administrator(and a damn bad one).........

so i just want to congratulate you for bein the newest member of mu.com staff on behalf of every one(not me......)

but anyways, i could'nt come here for the past few days cuz i had sh** to do, but once again azazel i suggest you shove that.......

"coco, I don't know why you're talking about Black Metal when you obviously know nothing..."

part wayyyyyyyyy up yer ass, dude....here let me show the black metal bands i know.

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230. coco writes:

true black metal bands unlike the sh** that is dissection......

aura noir
babtism
.....and oceans
burzukh
echoes of silence
carpathian forest
behemoth
goatwhore
hate forest
gorgoroth
khold
marduk
krieg
mystic circle
dimmu borgir
mercyful fate
primordial
satyricon(somethin like that....i forgot how to spell it)
ragnarok
old man child
nocturnal mortum
limbonic art
horde........

that not the only thin i know but i gotta go, later emozoids, wahahhahahhahahaha........

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231. psythe writes:

Coco, we didn't fight in the Slayer threads. I was trying to get you to post your comments in a dignified way, and to justify your arguments - THAT'S ALL - I don't care what your opinions are. In fact, I like it when people have opinions different to my own, because then we can debate and argue, and a lot of knowledge is thus shared, and wisdom gained. THAT is what I was trying to get you to facilitate. Unfortunately, you insist on merely posting such senseless quips as "Slayer = S HIT! You all suck some sort of long, hard object etc etc" - and you can't even have the self-pride to spell your mindless rantings correctly, or use any sort of accurate grammar whatsoever. THAT is the only 'beef' I have with you, Coco.

Just in case you didn't get it, I don't care what you think of Slayer (or any other band). Post respectfully and I'll treat you respectfully. Post like an idiot and I have no time for you.

That goes for everybody, obviously.

# Sep 13, 2006 @ 9:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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232. coco writes:

no fear, da man hasn't gone yet.....i went to tag some graffiti in da school backyard outside with some friends, cuz it was free period, nobody caught us by i swear it gonna be da first controversy goin around da school year......

but anyways, i was gonna go on , but i don't feel like it right now.....i had to remember more.....

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233. coco writes:

hey we were, postin at the same time, how was i supposed to know.......

hey, i know that cuz of my spelling ppl think that i'm an immature internet troll, but no, (although this place is definitly a haven for trolls)...............

by da way, i don't have any beef with no one either, i might probably sound like this cuz i had mature a little bit in that sense, but i bash SLAYER=S-HIT just like any other fag here who talk sh**, of course my post were extreme that why we had these flame wars alot............

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234. coco writes:

i bash alot of bands here just like, lord agony bash korn, rulin kmadd bash ax7, timmy bash whoever they were, red devil bashing the entire site(the latter is definitely someone to get rid of).....

but anyways in order to stop these wars i'll just stop bashin the legends(accordin to ya'll and bash non-metal crap like ax7)........

oh by da way what do you think of the black metal list? true black metal unlike dissection sh**ty lyrics........and so that why i see august 16 as black metal indepence day wahahhahahaha....oh sh**

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235. coco writes:

oh and by da way, i post with anti-slayer(a friend of mine) in the library once in while, so we ain't da same you blackgoddess kunt.....go rape jon nodveit coprse..........

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236. Spirit of the elder gods writes:

^^^^^^^^^^^^ LMFAO !!!!

# Sep 13, 2006 @ 12:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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237. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Okay, coco, its not a matter ov you being offensive...Its just that you have useless posts that I don't have time to read due to your loads ov netspeak and useless meaningless chatter

# Sep 13, 2006 @ 5:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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238. Azazel_Begotten writes:

All you have been to the site, is another Spammer...And any fool can list off a bunch ov bands they don't listen to in order to get some kind ov Metal 'cred', I don't know...And Behemoth isn't Black Metal, they're Symphonic Death Metal. I should know since I'm a big fan ov theirs. Mind you, they were Pagan Black Metal when they started out, but they're Death Metal now...Just so you know...

I must say, you think tagging random places is the sh** huh? Dude, I'm an underground professional freelancing grafiti artist (if you wanna be politically correct), I'm known for my work around here, mostly on lots and buildings here, and I got some local fame and recognition around here. What do you normally tag in that sh**hole anyway? I leave my mark ov the crew I'm with, and I have a nice little signature with it...I take pride in my work. And another tag artist here wants to work with me this weekend...

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239. Kristy - w1kd writes:

I wanted to make something clear.....few of you think he commited suicide caz he was depressed? You obviously never listened to the Reinkaos album {the lyrics tell it all.} Jon did not kill himself caz he was madly depressed. It was his destiny. He completed everything he wanted to in his life time, an he felt it was his time to rest an devote himself fully to Lucifer/Leviathan faith. Jon was a true satanist, he preformed a satanic suicide ritual. I guess some of you will never understand. You all should be celebrating his life, not his death. He will always live on.


- Kristy
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240. BLACKDOG writes:

I don't get why someone would be involved in Satanism inspite of all of our debates.However I do believe Kristy has a point.even though I'm not a fan of this band perse.With the exception of the murder he commited.He still lived atleast twice the lifetimes of the rest of us and he did it on his own term's.You gotta respect that much atleast.

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241. BLACKDOG writes:

Then on the other hand he did kill someone for a reason that was less than good.Hard to respect that.In fact it's impossible.

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242. slayerdisciple writes:

lloyd, 1 dissection isnt even true black metal they r a blackend death metal band, 2 u forgot 3 of the greatest black metal bands ever (emporer, darkthrone, mayhem) other then that u have a decent taste in black metal, 3 u type the most rediculous things and u dont back up anythin u say (in fact i agree with everythin psythe said), im all for bashin a7x tho ill see u in that worthless bands threads

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243. psythe writes:

I believe that Kristy has a point that has been made countless times throughout this thread. I kinda wish people would stop making that point... And apparently it was Jon's weapon, but not Jon himself that slew the poor individual - I think we should stop bickering over that, too, since that point has also been made a number of times.

Coco, it was a good list, but listing names doesn't really prove that you know anything other than how to google search or whatever. Not that I'm saying you had to do that, just saying you didn't really prove anything. I personally havn't listened to much Dissection (a few songs, that's all), but I don't dislike what I've heard. I'm more of a Black than a Death Metal fan. I like atmospheric stuff, mainly.

As a mod, I suppose I shouldn't really be saying this, but I don't really care what people do to the Avenged Sevenfold threads. If you go overboard (like Red Devil) I'll probly still have to delete your comments, but other than that, bash away. You won't find me on there.

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244. coco writes:

azazel, it not really like a passion with graffiti........ i just paint offenses and insults to places and ppl in those tags.............. like ANARCHISM and intentionaly vandalizing school and houses

onto the list, i don't give a sh** about bein believed or not, what i put in those are bands that i know and heard of, like behemoth, and mercyful fate, two of my all time fave black metal bands.

yo, tell deathbringer to dis-ban me, i don't want to be banned anymore, cuz i'm a good kid.

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245. slayerdisciple writes:

good kid? yea right

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246. Azazel_Begotten writes:

psythe---
you said "And apparently it was Jon's weapon, but not Jon himself that slew the poor individual"....What do you mean? Did it accidentally go off or something?

coco---
Advice on tagging: Out ov courtesy for the people in the area (Just plain respect), Keep the tags on PUBLIC Property. Don't go and tag houses (Unless its your own).
Advice on ANARCHY: The true meaning ov Anarchy is the ability for the people to govern THEMSELVES without Authority. In other words, instead ov having a law that says "Don't kill", man can live on his own without needing a law to tell him he can't kill, because his own morals should tell him so anyway. Everyone thinks that Anarchy just means chaos, when all it means is that there is no government. As in a place where everyone lives in peace because they are all enlightened and wise and intelligent enough to live peacefully with one another without the need for government, since they already know right from wrong.
And I'll take your word for it, if you say you listed the bands you liked and you actually are true in that. But please remember, this site is a pretty nice site, where everyone has their own opinions, and no one needs the drama you bring whenever you post insults to others. This site isn't like other online communities where people bash each other for the hell ov it. The site is predominately a mature group ov people that don't need to put others down. We all pretty much have our own lives (like you do), and we don't have the time to act immature and talk sh**. So I ask, please, be grown-up about sh** around here, if you have an opinion on a band past "They suck", then so be it. Try to add more sense to the site, rather than posting useless rants and sh**talk that seemingly reduces the site's average IQ points as a whole. Try and be the good kid you said you were...Thats my 2 cents in on that.

Best,
Carlos

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247. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Kristy - w1kd---
I had a feeling it wasn't depression...If you may recall a post I made earlier, I said I thought that Jon probably died to see something in the afterlife...

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248. psythe writes:

Azazel - apparently someone got hold of Jon's gun and shot the guy. Thus making Jon an accomplice to murder (or something), not a murderer. I'm only going by what I've read above.

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249. Azazel_Begotten writes:

psythe---
OH!!!! THATS IT? Dude, thats f***ed up! I thought he killed the guy himself or something...Oh well, then he was a great guy then, I listened to some ov his music...Great sh**

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250. ....... writes:

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251. Anti-Slayer writes:

Tagging to us is vandalizing the school and houses properties, destroying places for the fun and thrill in life, risking our lives with cops and such but overall we're nice kids.

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252. Anti-Slayer writes:

My name's Harold "f***head" Ferne. go to www.mysp.com/imalittlegirl

# Sep 15, 2006 @ 9:18 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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253. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Its not smart to make pointless risks....

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254. psythe writes:

I personally am against un-professional graffiti. Professional graffiti, which is USED by businesses and sh** is fine, but graffiti that is just there because some poor kid can't afford a paint canvas and wants to take a shot at society is just annoyingly arragant and ignorant. Sorry to those who'll disagree with me, but I'm not a fan.

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255. Azazel_Begotten writes:

psythe, I'm gonna be honest, I like tagging, public property is fine by me, its just when you tag private property, its like making a personal attack...I remember last summer, I wanted to impress Stefanie, and I wanted her to know how much I loved her, so one night, I used my red and white paints, and did her name in hearts...She loved it...

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256. psythe writes:

Oh, if it's on your own property, go right ahead. I just don't see the benefit to anyone in disfiguring public property - and vandalising someone else's property is beyond not cool, glad to hear you're above that.

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257. Azazel_Begotten writes:

psythe---I tag parking lots and public places like that (Public lot was my canvas for Stefanie's tag)...Bus Stops/Buses, Subways/Subway stops, Schools, sh**ty playgrounds...Me and my boys never did anything like hit some random person's house or something, we try to keep our sh** honourable...

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