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Vinnie Paul: "I Will Never Talk To Philip Anselmo Again"

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Johnson Cummins of the Montreal Mirror recently conducted an interview with former PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott. A few excerpts from the chat follow:

Montreal Mirror: The last time you and I spoke was right after PANTERA played in Montreal, the time Phil Anselmo made some white-supremacist comments from the stage. Your falling out with him has been well documented. Have you two buried the hatchet?

Vinnie Paul: "Nah, I will never talk to that guy again. That Montreal incident was only one of many other dumb incidents he's been a part of, and I'm sure he will continue to do. I just hope a lot of people know that he was never speaking for the band when he opened his mouth. I really have no use for him and just keep my distance — I'll just leave it at that."

Montreal Mirror: A lot of people are wondering when you are going to get back behind the drum kit again. Any plans?

Vinnie Paul: "I definitely still have a passion about it, but running this record label has been really busy and it's ended up being great therapy for me. Thanks to people like Zakk Wylde, GODSMACK, DISTURBED and Sammy Hagar — those people have really pulled through and helped me get playing again. When the right situation comes along, I'll know it, and I'll be back behind the drums again."

Montreal Mirror: You were in a dark place for a long time after Dimebag's tragic death. How did you get out of it?

Vinnie Paul: "Me and Dime did everything together from day one. When it happened, I didn't think I was really going to be able to carry on. There were several times where I would just wish I could die in my sleep. It was just that miserable. When something this tragic happens, you feel totally out of control and totally useless. You never get over it, but you have to learn to dig deep inside and learn how to cope with it. After a period of time, I could feel his energy, and I just know he wanted me to keep going, and I had to do everything I could to keep going. I also felt I had to do everything I could to make sure his legacy lives on forever. If the roles were reversed, I would be the guy in the sky pushing him on.

Montreal Mirror: Do you have any particular memories of Dimebag that stick out in your mind?

Vinnie Paul: "There really are so many. I remember the last time I saw him. We used to have a code word, which was 'Van Halen,' and that just meant to let it all hang out and have a really good time, because we both thought VAN HALEN were just one of the most kick-ass bands ever. He was warming up on his guitar before our show like he always did, and putting chapstick on his lips like he always did before a show. I just went up to him and said, 'Van Halen,' and he looked over at me and said, 'Van fucking Halen,' and we high-fived each other. I didn't know it, but a minute and a half later I would never hear from him again."

Vinnie Paul has lined up the following in-store appearances at Steve's Music locations in Canada:

Jun. 03 - Toronto, ONT - 415 Queen St. W
Jun. 05 - Ottawa, ONT - 308 Rideau St.
Jun. 06 - Montreal, QUE - 51 St-Antoine St. W

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. BLACKDOG writes:

Look's like the reunion will never happen.Anselmo's a heavier version of AXL.Talented yes.Likeable well...... He's talented.No denying it.

# Jun 4, 2006 @ 11:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. RememberMetal? writes:

Who is surprised by this?...

The things Anselmo said about Dime in interviews were terrible. Anselmo blames the media, but Vinnie apparently has the audio of interviews with Anselmo where he would tear into the Abbots without even being provoked.

I'll always respect Anselmo for his immeasurable contribution to metal but the guys an a$$hole.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 12:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. VO writes:

After the recent viewing of Pantera behind the music, this is just a bright light being shined on the truth. From a fan's perspective, Phillip has never been the same Phillip we all liked and enjoyed since the Far Beyond Driven album. He was at his career best when Vulgar was released. The first sign of change was his inability to speak! This guy hardly ever spoke clearly from '96 to the end of Pantera. Vinnie has every right to feel the way he does, Phillip stoped being the man and friend he knew and respected. Phillip's changes were so obvious and it even seeed to affect there approach to the power groove they were famous for. It seems to me once he got into the harder drugs..there sound and song stylings seemed to go more with his inability to be the singer they once had. Listen to Trendkill and Steel. Both of these recordings seem more intent on working with his insane approach verses, Phil complementing the tracks. Don't get me wrong! Every Pantera recording has somethin to hold on to but vocally Phillip really changed after Vulgar. The drug's simply ruined his style! Yeah, he had an intense approach to vocals but his intense went to insane and it appeared to hurt the band some. Even more so live. It also seemed like he may have put together those other side band's because maybe even he knew he was not giving Pantera what he had before. As fan's, we don't have to believe all we read. Be a bug on the wall and think some. We will never know it all because only Vinnie and Phillip know what we don't. Regardless, to everything The work they did in Pantere will musically define there careers forever!!

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 4:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. LuNaTiQuE writes:

\m/

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 5:00 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. psythe writes:

ahhh, to waste such talent with such a personality. Anselmo, you idiot. and what's this white supremacy BULLSHlT??! bloody dookhead!

the "van halen" code's pretty cool. they sure were an awesome band.

but who can blame Vinnie? I wouldn't speak to Phil either. I'm still excited for when Vin gets back behind his kit. rock on, brother.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 6:37 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. relentless austin writes:

the sad part is that phil seems to be in denial about the whole thing

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 11:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. Tyrant writes:

Yeah , Anselmo is talented no doubt, but almost everyone here is right, the guy is just an a$$hole... I wonder what made him do all that Down and Superjoint sh*t... which none of it was really bad...but IT'S PANTERA for God's sake. What would possess a man to even think about creating material without the likes of Dimebag and Vinnie? I like that brother hood factor about Pantera. It shows how close they were, i mean, they were brothers, and they treated everyone else like brothers. This band was awesome. No arguments about that...please.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 11:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Azazel_Begotten writes:

First off, f*** Phil Anselmo for that sh**talk in Montreal! Being Black and Mexican, it offends me...

What Vinnie said was deep, real deep...I remember I heard when Dime died, I was sad, even now, its been over a year, and every time I think back to it, I tear alittle...But its good that Vinnie is moving on...

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 1:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Gezis writes:

It should have been you Phill!!!!! It should have been you!

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 2:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Scorched_Earth writes:

I have to say I don't really know Pantera's music, I wasn't listening to metal much after Metallica and Megadeth's first few records, but I have to complement Vinnie. I have seen him address Anselmo's (does this guy really think he's Anglo with a name like that?!??) comments and I genuinely don't think he supports feels the way Anselmo does. Being African American and a metal fan back in the 80's/90's, the last sh** you needed to hear was some of the shxt that idiot said (and it was SOOO misguided).

My condolences on the loss, of course, what happened was so sad.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 2:55 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. silent_assassin666 writes:

dimebag's loss f***en suks and i think phil completely disrespected PANTERA by making those bullshxt comments.... that just makes us(not whit fans) feel like sh** AND im sure the rest of the band doesn't wanna loose those fans for some dude thats full of shxt....... sure he has talent but c'mon.... well i can't wait for vinnie 2 start playing again and PANTERA will always live on.....
i love damageplan its f***en awsum.!!!!!

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 3:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. Thrash Banger writes:

Let me just say, That I'm sick of all this post-Pantera Abbott/Anselmo, who did what B.S.
O.K. Phil F**ked up, HE f**ked up big time and what he said in the Metal press and onstage was ugly and he more than likely, deserves a crowbar to his balls for it.
But Pantera were 4 guys, not one or two, but four awsome musicians
The Abbott Brothers would have been nothing without Phil and Phil would have nothing without Dimebag and Vinnie.
Whats also a F**ken shame is that Rex Brown never gets any credit for all of his impeccable Bass playing
Is this what Panteras going to be remembered for?
After an icon was brutaly murdered all anyone can do after that is b**** and cry about what an a$$hole somebody was and sh*t all over the legacy of a flawless band?
This isn't right and this bad blood needs to stop flowing, who else has to die onstage?

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 5:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. ??? writes:

What would happen if Dimebag wasn't shot but instead died of alcohol poisoning because he drank black-tooth grins like a fish

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 6:36 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. BLACKDOG writes:

At the rate He's going He'll be a parody of himself before it's over.A friend of mine met Phil This was dureing the vulger display period.He was a complete prick.He was supposed to be interviewed for a local mag(artvoice I think).He did not do the interview because he was talking to a couple of 16yr old girls at the time.He was apparently seriously rude about it too.It's really sad to see him go down the road he's on but nobody made him do it.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 6:40 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. bradispissed writes:

i have this dream where i run up on stage during a pantera reunion and get punched in the face by phil...


since i was a kid i've always wanted to get my a$$ kicked by that bastard

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 7:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. OTISLIVES writes:

phil eats balls.....thats all i gotta say

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 8:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. BLACKDOG writes:

BRAD.Although I can't get behind the idea of getting my a$$ kicked by anyone.There is something cool about that.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 9:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. psythe writes:

yeah, if someone was gonna slap me down, he'd be shortlisted for the job.

# Jun 5, 2006 @ 10:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Eric G writes:

First, I give much hats off respect to Vinnie for finding the strength to carry on with his life. In short my brother was murdered 10yrs ago the same way and it still feels like it happened yesterday. It brings tears to my eyes when I think about the connection the Abbotts' had as well as when I listen to not only the D-plan cd but all of Panteras' stuff. Nothing in that genre will ever top what they did!! But like they say it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch and I fully agree with Vin's decision to sever ties with phil. Being African American myself and being involved in the underground metal scene since '85 as well as punk I can honestly say that I had only one experience with rasicm all those years and it wasn't from any band or members from bands. I would never listen to any band or follow them after making white supremist/racist comments. Racism, racist comments and racist people don't belong in metal cuz I feel it is possibly the greatest music out there. It can't continue to grow with (little) phils' out there.
Once again much heart felt props to Vinny for being strong and keeping Dimes' legacy alive...I can't wait to hear what pounding drum licks Vin comes up with next!

# Jun 6, 2006 @ 9:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. kingster writes:

look everybody phil anselmo did hairoin that's a serious drug.He said bad thing about dime but man thats the past man. these dudes toured over 10 years together they were the sh** and everybody knows that the bottom line is barry the hatched and everybody get along. they are the best metal band ever.....

# Jun 6, 2006 @ 10:50 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. psythe writes:

Eric G, I agree!


and "barry the hatched"?? what is that, a really bad superhero??

did you mean "bury the hatchet"? because that would make a LOT more sense.

# Jun 6, 2006 @ 11:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. BLACKDOG writes:

As another fellow African American I also agree with you Eric(We or atleast I tend to catch more sh** from our own for listening to Metal than any other group).I just refuse to acknowledge ignorant people.So I can still listen to PANTERA but not because of Phil.I treat it like someone else is singing.Yeah sure he was on Hairoin & yeah that could have possibly had alot to do with it but you still have not heard anything about an apology.Not that you could expect one from him.If he ever get's his act together he's got ton's of sh** to answer for.

Stay strong Vinnie & R.I.P Dime.

# Jun 6, 2006 @ 11:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. ZAKKe writes:

I do not blame vin what Phil said was f***ing wrong and becuz of what he said someone died wait no not someone a metal f***in god
well anyways i hope that vin does find the band to play in it would be pretty f***in asome if he could play for Black Label Society
f*** YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R.I.P. DimebagDarrel

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 12:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. jsbelway6 writes:

my comment is f.... all you who put down phil. we really dont know what went on with phil and the abbots, i saw them, met them and no bad words were exchanged. i am saying shut the f... up, they gave us music that inspired,and drove us to the persons that we THINK WE ARE. speaking as a TRUE fan of pantera,,dont judge people till you meet them and truly know.

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 1:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. jsbelway6 writes:

i had to write again, just because i cant believe all the people puttin phil down. didnt anyone appreciate the music? did you hear the pantera kerry king demos? if you are a true fan of pantera and dimebag, you'd know, they were like brothers...the music showed it, the shows ,showed it,,,be a true fan. we are not in there war, until we really know,,shut your f..in mouths and enjoy what was left for us to enjoy,,,,,bye

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 1:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. Tyrant writes:

Man... JSBELWAY6 is p***ed !!! Yes, we will appreciate what Pantera did for the metal world... The reason Vinnie doesn't want to associate with Phil is probably because Phil severed the brotherhood, and at the worst time he could have. Can't blame him.

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 10:38 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. Turk writes:

Phil did not sever the brotherhood. Keep in mind that he was not allowed to go to the funeral of Dime. That is some bullsh*t right there. At one time, they were liek brothers. My father didnt talk to his brother for 15 years, but they finally got together, and it drew them closer than ever/ Some people simply need time, and the pr*ck who killed Dime stole it. But, Vinnie and Phil should be men and end this. I am not sticking up for Phil, but I am not a moron. This is a problem between both the Abbots and Phil, and both are equally responsible.

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 4:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. BLACKDOG writes:

I think we can all agree that PANTERA's split was a tragedy completely regardles of why it had to happen.Just as Dime unfortunate & unimely death was an even bigger tragedy.I'm sure there's all kind's of stuff that the fans are unaware of and we should all keep this in mind(two sides to every story).I just hate that it all turned out in such a f***ed up way.The chances of a reunion have gone from highly unlikely to flat out impossible.

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 5:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. CFH writes:

lets not loose focus on the real crime to the brotherhood of pantera wich is avenged 7 fold doing a sh**y cove of walk. this is bullsh**.

# Jun 7, 2006 @ 5:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. leelee writes:

RIP Dime... Can't wait to see and hear Vinnie playing music again.. They should set up a tribute/benefit concert tour with all of his friends, Zakk Wylde, Jerry Cantrell, Eddie Van Halen, ect.. that would be bad azz
fck Anselmo.. he's an azz.. a great singer but he stuck is foot so far in his mouth there isn't any way to go back and make amends with Dime.. Vinnie maybe some day.. maybe not...

# Jun 8, 2006 @ 5:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. ??? writes:

i agree with jsbelway6 after reading this letter:

Philip H Anselmo; On Behalf of Darrell Lance Abbott-Pt. I
I’ve been stumbling around in a coma of loss. No truer lyric has been written than “You don’t know what you’ve got, ‘til it’s gone.” To explain my side of things with the hiatus of Pantera, please give me a moment and think about what I say. Think.

# Jun 8, 2006 @ 10:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. ??? writes:

I joined the band in late ‘86/early ‘87, and the chemistry clicked like a vice grip, we hit it off like four bad mother f***ers could. Perfection. Dime, Vince and Rex could play f***ing anything. You pick the style, they could pull it off. So in reality we had to find out where our musical hearts lay strongest. After short deliberation, our intention was to be the most devastating ‘hard core-heavy metal’ band in the world.
You know, when the so called heavy metal press first got wind of ‘Cowboys from Hell’ they were absolutely unsure what to think. More bad reviews than good at the time. The Reason? They had never heard a band quite like us before, and I can’t blame the press or anyone for not hearing the full experience, but there were flashes in songs like ‘Primal Concrete Sledge’, and “Message in Blood’. Once again as I have said before, the press remained basically unimpressed, BUT, with the heavy metal audience, the phenomenon of Pantera had already begun. Slowly but surely, the fan base grew larger and larger (the best fans in the world I say still!)

# Jun 8, 2006 @ 10:13 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. ??? writes:

The LP that I believe was the first ‘true’ Pantera LP was our second major release ‘Vulgar Display of Power’. As a band, our brotherhood and obvious originality and musicianship cemented us as one of the most feared and loved bands ever to step on a stage. That, is what we all lived for. We figured as long as our awesome audience was moved (head banging, skanking, stage diving, of course) we would play for us and them. Of course we had a deep connection with both our music and our audience, and we were also very different, image and attitude wise… It was extremely rare to see a lead vocalist or anyone with a shaved head unless you looked deep into the underground with bands like the Cro-Mags, Agnostic Front, Rose Tattoo, etc…(I didn’t mean to leave anyone out). The difference between us and these great bands was the fact that we also had an insanely great guitar player who was respected alongside the best of the best, and a rhythm section so unique and tight, goddamn they were tight, tight is and always will be the word. I guarantee throughout our 17 year existence it would be extremely difficult to have one memory of Rex or Vince messing up or playing a part wrong ever. That to some people may be amazing or impossible, however I mean what I say 100 times over. They were the best damn musicians I’d ever seen or heard. Period.

# Jun 8, 2006 @ 10:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. ??? writes:

With ’Far Beyond Driven’, our 3rd major offering, going to #1 on the Billboard top #200, it seems appropriate to say that some Rock Magazines were taking notice, one way or another. Guitar magazines throughout the world were right on the money by calling Dimebag the best axe man of the time. That was absolutely true and within his lead style, influenced by the likes of Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhodes, Ace Frehley, and himself (it’s true, I believe most all great lead guitar players have their own style to hear and influence. By god Darrell had that type of talent and then some). His rhythms he came up with, in ways, probably became even more influential. His influences were extremely varied and unique from guys like James Hetfield (Metallica), Kerry King and Jeff Hannemen (Slayer), Judas Priest to Motorhead, AC/DC, ZZ top, Robin Trower and even some of the ultra underground bands I would play him. In all honesty he preferred a more accomplished guitar player than some of the rawer sloppier stuff that I adored, but what he did love about the rawer stuff was its all out assault on the ears. Bless him, he did love that. Within his style he commanded and demanded the best out of himself, and all of us around him. So I will say to everyone in Texas that ever called me a friend, and especially all of my brothers that helped work with us as Pantera on the road crew; I love all of you. To the fans in Texas, and the rest across America and the world, beware of the sh** you read in rock magazines. When these pathetically titled ‘journalists’ (not all of them, but a lot still), had finally caught on to the fact that we, Pantera, had beaten all the odds a band could, and the press had no choice but to build us up until it seemed that they were all of a sudden desperate to make us supermen in the magazines, it was an assignment. It wasn’t true to them, they were getting paid for it. We weren’t supermen, just a great band. During our whole career, there were always those interviews where you could tell that the ’journalist’ didn’t know sh** about our band, using wrong facts, whether they made us look good or bad, not knowing a thing about our characters, our musicianship, or our careers; asking the same questions, or as ’journalists’ love to do, just plain making up whatever they wanted. For every ‘journalist’ out there, these facts may or may not fit in with the way you personally do your work , but I know and so the f*** do you that this load of bullsh** behavior, that thousands of fans read on a regular basis, is absolutely irresponsible, and it’s obvious that you truly don’t care about your responsibilities to the fans, or how many lives you truly destroy. It’s all about what sells magazines, isn’t it?

# Jun 8, 2006 @ 10:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. ??? writes:

A month has gone by since we, his former band mates, his current band mates, his friends and fans around the world, have lost Dimebag. I can’t necessarily speak for them, but for me, it’s the first thing that comes to mind when I awake, if I sleep at all, still. It is also the last thing I think about as I lay down to rest. God damn it still hurts me. I want to be there for Vinnie Paul no matter how long it takes. I want to be there for Rita if she’ll have me. I want to be there for the Kat and the rest of the crew as well, people that have been a part of my life for 17 ½ years. Once again, I’m hoping my biggest hope; that they realize that the bad stuff written about our bands and ourselves was coerced nonsense made to sell magazines. Bare with me, please. I beg you all. By the way, all of the level headed fans that write in and offer support, that in itself is the best therapy I’ve received yet. I have considered retirement because of a broken heart, but also in my heart, I cannot let my fans down. As the days go by I realize that I’m at war with some things inside of myself, that I don’t mind sharing with you: I always, truly always, no matter if it was my own dreams just coming to the surface, if we, just the four of us, were to sit in a room together, we’d have been laughing, crying, and laughing again. The weight of the world would be lifted off of our shoulder as we hugged each other. Play together again? I have a suspicion that our fans would demand some type of reunion. My god I thought of that so many times and because what our fans wanted, they usually got. It may have taken a little longer, but think about how long it took the original Black Sabbath to play together again!?
Then in one night early December, 2004, an event changed the entire year and our entire lives into one of the cruelest sort. Some mentally disturbed individual …crushed the dream. He took one of the most talented, extroverted people ever to grace this earth. I’m crushed for the loss of my friend that I loved, for Vince his brother, for Jerry his father, for Rita his life companion, for all of his good friends, for every music fan that was inspired and loved his playing; especially those who were lost or were injured that night we lost Darrell. None of what I have said will ever bring him back, and it hurts so bad. I add very humbly in hope that no one else out there ever has to go through something like this; Keep your loved ones close.
Yours Truly, I can take no more at this time-
Philip H Anselmo

# Jun 8, 2006 @ 10:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. RememberMetal? writes:

To the person posting the pleasent reminders that Phil Anselmo does indeed have a heart and that I'm sure he'd give up anything to bring back Dime. Thanks.

It doesnt change the fact that Anselmo was vicious to the Abbots who stood by while Anselmo destroyed himself and postponed Pantera for his various side projects.

I don't claim to have all the facts or even many of them (but enough of them to draw logical conclusions) but it's pretty clear where the --brunt-- of the blame for the grudge between the abbots and anselmo should go.

# Jun 9, 2006 @ 1:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. ??? writes:

I agree but Phil gave an apologie after his overdose and and Dime wanted to accept it but Vinnie didn't.So as Phil's withdrawal grew Vinnie's anger grew also.And after Dime's death to releave the pain Vinnie put the blame,anger,and grief on Phil. And knowing the media takes of on this sh** they made a half-truth story with missing sides fueled by rage and greif.

# Jun 9, 2006 @ 12:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. MastoDom writes:

You know… I’ve read all of this sh*t. Hears how I'm calling it…
Phil, you made your peace with yourself. You should be sitting at the Arlington Cemetery everyday talking to Dime’s headstone for forgiveness. (I agree that Phil didn't need another outlet.) Down was okay, Stupidjoint sucked in my opinion. Maybe he was on pain killers, who knows. Yes he’s said some stupid sh*t from time to time. Look at MTV’s night out with Pantera, they were ALL partying it up. Some more than others…Just cause you don’t shoot up or snort up and your vice is drinking 24/7 doesn’t mean you aren’t a addict too. Lord knows Dime loved the drinkie poo. And “Yes” I've had L4/5 Disk Herniation and then Surgery. It any a fun fu&kin thing to go through and I couldn't feel my legs before the surgery. So if you haven't lived through the pain and being doctor drugged up before you get it fixed, then you don't know d***! Now, I recall Rex playing in Down and in Crowbar. Or are you people missing the facts here? Rex to me didn’t do any interviews about anything, supporting or otherwise through this breakdown of Pantera, now did he? I also haven't seen crap from him since Dime's death. So are you all missing something? Rex is a drunk! His face is caving in just as bad as Rick Hunolt's from Exodus' is. Christ people wake a F up!!! ) Also I know Vinne and Dime were more then fair when it came to all of Phil’s outside albums. Gee, lets see here:
Phil was in Pantera, then formed Necrophagia in 1998 and released 4 albums and 2 live DVD’s with this band he played guitar in. Then in 1999 started another project called: Viking Crown with his wife and ex-bassist from Necrophagia which did two more albums and Phil pulled the plug on it in 2001. In between 99 and 01 Phil did the STEEL
Album with Pantera. Then the whole band took a year off, Apparently, Phil threatened to
Quick Pantera if they didn’t give him the time to continue his side projects. He then released, "Southern Issolation" with his wife it was an EP. Played Drums in Eyehategod for a spell, Plus we’ve got both Down CD’s and of course Superjoint. So, Phil I have to say is one busy mutha-fukka!!! You have to give props for that. He’s done nothing but give us music.
I want to see something from silent Rex showing that he didn't pick a side. Of Course he did, he was as fu&ked up as Phil during this time frame he did the whole Down thing with Phil, so if this was all about Phil doing Down, how come I don’t remember Rex sitting with Dime and Vinnie, saying we are waiting on Phil? The Steel tour was awesome, just would have picked a better band other than Morbid Angel to open for Soulfly because Morbid sounded like a$$ playing. There's more to this issue with Vinnie then anyone is letting on. But I hope in time Phil and Vinnie mend the fences, even if it's just to be friends on some “new level”. Oh, and the "Van Halen" thing comes to mind here so don't forget that whole karma connection. Look at all the back and forth yacking that Dave was saying and vice versa from the VH camp, even Sammy launched in on that one. Yet, Vinnie considers Sammy a friend. I've got the bootleg VH concert of RFK in D.C. to prove Sammy bad mouthing DLR. So Vinnie take all the time you need to heal and deal. But you all have too much history with Phil to let it end this way, you both need to communicate over this all !!!! Your TRUE fans expect it and you don't want us picking a side. We cherish you both for what you gave to Metal (A kick in the sack and didn’t sell out like Metallica did) so don't make this a stain on our tighty whitey's....

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39. MastoDom writes:

I stand corrected, Rex is now in Superjoint. So he's chosen a side.

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40. RememberMetal? writes:

superjoint is dead

# Jun 11, 2006 @ 7:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. jon writes:

just bury the hatchet , its such a shame that sh*** like this happens

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42. ???? writes:

vinnie just drop it i kno phil has done sum reli bad things but be a man and forgive him

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43. bradispissed writes:

lol rex never played in crowbar


that was kirk

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44. bradispissed writes:

f*** nevermind i stand corrected


he filled in on lifes blood in the downtrodden or on the downtrodden or whateverthef***...good cd though

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45. ronnie lee page writes:

i just wanna say that i'll forever mourn the truly tragic and irreplaceable loss of Darrel..His breathtaking guitar heroics and amazing contribution to metal music is without parallel in modern times..Dime was a rare diamond of a guy with a great personality and was a supremely gifted guitarist..I'll forever miss him for the sheer joy he gave me when he was around..Darrel RIP in heaven above..

Pantera is my all-time favourite metal band, no question...Pantera definitely kept the banner of Metal flying highest on the hill and none of their peers, before or after them, came even remotely close in terms of their musical brilliance and artistic integrity...Pantera has my greatest respect and admiration for never compromising with their musical direction and intent...Metallica's overall legacy, for instance, isn't worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Pantera's...bottom line is Pantera made the some of the most authentically hardcore, heaviest, yet melodic and memorable metal music in recent memory..

As for Phil, from what i've heard, read or seen, i can honestly say i'm not a big fan of his personality...Phil has done and said plenty of downright ludicrous and terribly mean, hurtful things over the years...but that said, i will never deny that i loved him as frontman/vocalist for a band (Pantera) i love with my heart n soul...I felt gutted to see Pantera lose momentum after all their terrific albums and shows, and then shockingly disband....a great loss to us all that count ourselves as their true n loyal fans..and i agree with you guys that say only the band itself, Dime, Vinnie, and Phil know exactly the personal issues and the consequent bad blood between them....so my comments about Phil are based mainly on what i've actually heard him say or know for sure he did...i sure wanna see him ditch his dangerous drug dependence and get a grip on himself...i hope Phil continues to sing with whoever he wants to hook up with but at least he takes care of himself and rocks as hard as only he knows how...I reckon he was perfect for Pantera and i'll always admire and remember him for his part in making Pantera awesome..

I'm dying to listen to Damageplan's debut "Newfound Power"...i haven't been able to find it in stores and buy it yet...i've read some online reviews, but nothing beats hearing and deciding for yourself...i reckon Damageplan must be different to our Pantera experience but excellent in its own right....btw i think SJR is great stuff...and i'm not one of those taking sides or anything..i just hope Vinnie carries on and shows us what he's still got to offer, and Phil does his best....Rex is never forgotten for his ton-heavy thunderous bass lines for Pantera...and God bless Darrel's soul forever..


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46. cfhdimebag writes:

i dont understand why people sit here on the f***ing internet and talk badly about phil or anybody in pantera, whats over is over, phil seems so truly sad that he was an a$$hole about the whole situation, but thats because he did heroin because his back hurt. not that thats a good reason to do heroin in the first place but we dont sit here and say bad sh** about other musicians who have done heroin like nikki sixx, kurt cobain, layne stanley, no we f***ing idolize those guys but when philip h. anselmo does it everybody f***ing makes him a target, but give the guy some credit he appoligized a million f***ing times, he is ovbviously sorry to dime and vinnie for what he did, i dont know why vinnie just cannot except his apoligy, if it wasnt for phil pantera would not have been as good as they were in the first place, so get your facts straight before you come on here and bash phil just becuase of some of the sh** you here, and think of all the things phil has done good instead of judging him for all the bad things he's done, --PEOPLE f*** UP-- plain and simple. RIP Dime.

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47. MEATAL fan writes:

I'm probably gonna get flamed for this but I think Phil needs help with his problems, not rejection. Have you ever met a junkie??? The say ------up stuff! I'm sure the dude feels absolutely terrible about Dime, ESPECIALLY after what he said. Just a sad situation all around.

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48. Bourney writes:

who cares about dimebag. let him rest in peace. all you obssessed fans going "dimebag this, dimebag that". It should be "who the hell is dimebag" anyone who would like to have seen any of the crappy bands dimebag was in. should see a mental therapist, coz there is something seriously wrong with u.

UP THE IRONS

# Jun 19, 2006 @ 4:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. dotdotdot writes:

Alright, all of you who are just flipping out because this guy wont forgive another guy... let them work it out man, nobody gives half a f*** about some punk 13 year old's opinions! Pantera is one of the greatest metal bands of ALL TIME, and if you are going to f***ing, bagg on people because they do drugs then go f***in ahead! Bag on Kurt Cobain! Bag on Jimi Hendrix! Bag on SLASH man, you need to get over yourself, Dimebag is one of the Greatest guitar players whoever lived, I am not taking sides here, but in my opinion Vinnie needs to forgive Phil for being a b****, because its SUCKS man, having thousands of people hating you... so all you punk a$$ kiddies who think you are hardcore, LISTEN to me. SO many great rock artists do stupid sh** they dont mean, Axl Rose... well he's just an a$$ who hasnt apologized but I mean think about it, Black Sabbath took forever to get a reunion... GnR will get one too... but Pantera's been robbed and you all f***in know that so just accept it. Remember Dimebag, love his art and know he's still here with us rockin... just out of sight. But also know that nobody gives a f*** if you think that Phils an a$$ and needs to die ok? Oh seriously the people who suck at typing need to get hooked on phonics.

NEVER f***ING FORGET THE GREATEST!

Dimebag Darrell.

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50. headbanger666 writes:

phil is a metal god so was pantera why is everyone blameing phil he did not pull the trigger? he got lost in the world of drugs and metal there are thousands of bands that say shi# about eachother and nothings said but now dime lost his life and u all blame phil thats fu$ked watch learn listen thats what vin rex and dime did not try to help they ran i love all the guys but everyone needs to wake up its not all phils fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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