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Cradle of Filth Frontman Explains New Album Title

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The following message was posted on CRADLE OF FILTH's official web site:

"Seing as the title 'Thornography' for the new album was released without our knowledge a few days ago, CradleOfFilth.com asked the band direct for an exclusive explanation as to what it means."

Commented frontman Dani Filth: "This title represents mankind's obsession with sin and self. The thorn combines images of that which troubled Christ, the crown of thorns, thus intimating man's seeming desire to hurt God and also, of the protecting thorn and the need to enclose a secret place or the soul from attack. An addiction to self-punishment or something equally poisonous. A mania. Twisted desires. Barbed dreams. A fetish. An obsession with cruelty. Savage nature. Paganism over Christianity. The title can also represent a sexual attraction to religious iconography as in the case of the 'possessed' Lourdon nuns.

"I like the title because to me it invokes images of a darker, sexier pre-Raphaelite scene wherein Sleeping Beauty's castle is won and she is awoken by a poisonous kiss. A darker adult faerytale."

As previously reported, "Thornography" is scheduled for release on September 19 via Roadrunner Records. Songtitles set to appear on the CD include "Libertina Grim", "Tonight in Flames", "Cemetery and Sundown", "I Am the Thorn", "The Byronic Man" (featuring guest vocals from H.I.M.'s Ville Valo) and "Temptation".

The follow-up to 2004's "Nymphetamine", "Thornography" was recorded at Lincolnshire, England's Chapel studios with producer Rob Caggiano (BLEEDING THROUGH, ANTHRAX).

"I'm not saying it's 'experimental,' but we're definitely testing the limits of what we can do," CRADLE frontman Dani Filth recently told Revolver magazine about the new CD. "This is our sixth or seventh record, so we're trying to spice things up to keep the marriage going!"

"We were hungry to write again," Filth added. Once we finished all our tours [in 2005], we spent the summer just writing. Nobody really throught about where it was going, which is why I think it's really fresh sounding. A lot of the songs are really rhythmical — thrashy, almost — but they're all also really catchy."

Source: Blabbermouth

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1. The omen writes:

Thornology? this is total crap. COF lost touch they have always sucked and they make me want to puke. Whats with H I M on one song too that is stupid. Listen to real black metal (darkthrone emperor burzum immortal etc)

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2. FromMyGraveToDanisEnslave writes:

Mr. The Omen... I command you to take that back! I have all their albums and no one... and I mean no one talks like that about Dani Filth! Oh, and by the way... Cradle don't actually consider themselves "Black Metal" so unless you knew more about them you have no right to post sh*t about Cradle of Filth! I like Burzum and Darkthrone too, though it doesn't mean you bag out Cradle of F*cking Filth!!!!!!!!

# May 2, 2006 @ 1:18 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. a midnight castle, the eerie song of wolves writes:

I am actually very anxious about this forthcoming Cradle OF Filth release. Nymphetamine was an odd album name (but the content was not as bad the album name). Also the featuring vocals of Ville Valo is quite concerning... I can only hope that this album sounds as spectacular as their others (especially Vempire) or else I might forsake my Cradle Of Filth obsession... Sorry Dani...

# May 2, 2006 @ 3:39 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Azgaroth writes:

Thats actually a good Album Title. Definetly Cradle of Filth material

# May 2, 2006 @ 6:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. lordpaco18 writes:

cant wait, need some more cradle

# May 2, 2006 @ 7:16 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. dbag hater writes:

i smell a sell out a coming

# May 2, 2006 @ 7:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. jim writes:

the album actualy sounded ok until the bit about the fella from HIM doing guest vocals...

# May 2, 2006 @ 7:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. The dark lord 666 writes:

i was thinking abou geting some darkthrone wat should i get?

# May 2, 2006 @ 9:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. BodomFan writes:

if your wantin some good Darkthrone, then grab a copy of "Sardonic Wrath". It a damn good album for any new Darkthrone fan

# May 3, 2006 @ 10:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Happysatan13 writes:

I personally really enjoy Darkthrone's Plague Wielder. Really basic, a little slow, but does not have the drudging effect on you that most black metal albums do when then lower the bpm. Then again, they didn't lower it that much...

# May 4, 2006 @ 3:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. mike pooplogs writes:

Cradle of sh** is the f***in gayest band in the univarse. F***in gothic sh**

# May 4, 2006 @ 7:09 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. kingpin writes:

f*** you cradle is the best there is. theyare not gothic u retard.

# May 4, 2006 @ 7:59 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. mike pooplogs writes:

f*** u fat sh** . Cradle of sh** is f***ing goth emo fag gay b**** a$$holes who f***in do satanic rituals. they are gothic u f***in rejects

# May 4, 2006 @ 8:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. The dark lord 666 writes:

Thanks for the input guys i will check those out.

# May 5, 2006 @ 6:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. Red Devil sux ass writes:

What a wreid creature and What the hell is HIM doing on COF album man that sucks.

# May 5, 2006 @ 6:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. mike pooplogs writes:

Red devil is f***in gay. u f***ing trying to b cool filling half the page. But yea slayer f***in sucks sh**. f*** YOU if u like this gothic sh** band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

# May 5, 2006 @ 7:44 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. mike pooplogs writes:

f*** u fat sh**!!!!!! Go eat your own sh** gay devil. Also im the black devil

# May 5, 2006 @ 8:29 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. cradle of filth writes:

Eh dont make fun of our band u sh** heads. f*** u if u dont like us. Anyone going to buy our new album.

# May 5, 2006 @ 8:32 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. Shadows writes:

This is just sad.

And by that I mean the comments here.

# May 5, 2006 @ 8:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. L.A.A writes:

the only one with sense on here is Shadows. Red Devil is a c***-sucking son of a b**** like the rest of you fags who come on a bands news forum and complain like f***ing emos.get a f***ing life!!!! if you dont like the music keep it to yourself. Slayer is awsome you blood red c*** devil.C.O.F is one of the best bands ive heard.

# May 5, 2006 @ 10:37 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. filth fucking rules writes:

Cradle of Filth is the best mother f***ing band in the f***ing world any of you who dont like them eat f***ing sh** you f***ing non believers and if you have a problem you have a problem f*** off you f***ing c***s. p.s. d*** licks.

# May 6, 2006 @ 9:15 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. the war in iraq is pointless writes:

L.A.A i know red devil personally and he does like cradle of filth, he was talking crap about the fact that HIM was there. that because red devil has an immense hate for him. but he's definitely a fan of COF. geesh, red devil you seem to be the next big a$$hole after coco. now metal underground has to suffer the wrath of a second crazed menace.

# May 7, 2006 @ 12:04 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. the war in iraq is pointless writes:

Actually, third to coco and lord agony. you know i wonder why COF is compared a lot to Dimmu Borgir?

# May 7, 2006 @ 12:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. slayerdisciple writes:

some of yall gettin offensive because of wat someone says on the internet, yes cradle of filth kicks ass, no im not excited about Ville Valo bein on the album, and Red Devil needs a life considerin all the spam he posts

# May 7, 2006 @ 1:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. slayerdisciple writes:

wtf ur a f***in dumbsh** that was the gayest thing anyone couldve ever said, how old r u 8?

# May 7, 2006 @ 1:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. the war in iraq is pointless writes:

Hey, Red Devil if you hate HIM then why don't you go and bash them instead of slayer, man. We got enough with this Coco/Lloyd dude. Man, i could actually imagine if Lord Agony and Coco were on the site at the same time. S-hit that would be double the terror. And red devil please, you're just a stupid piece of sh** trying to be like both of them. You're not as bad as Coco and Lord Agony and you're not even an a$$hole like you're trying to be. Oh, but you can keep on spamming, you little b****. I could care less, Coco and Lord Agony are the real motherf***ers that this online site ever known.

# May 7, 2006 @ 10:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. the war in iraq is pointless writes:

COF IS THE f***IN BAND EVER IN BLACK METAL, YEAH! i miss lord agony. And what what Coco/Lloyd said about leaving this site sucks. Man i'm going to miss him too.

# May 7, 2006 @ 3:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. mike pooplogs writes:

f***in cradle of sh** is the gayest band ever u f***in gothic emo fags. That band is so f***ing gothic sh** . i f***in hate gothic bands and people. When the singer screams he sounds like a hawk

# May 7, 2006 @ 7:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. cfhdon writes:

the comments are real pathetic on this lame site, im leaving too, so f*** u, u closet EMO f***, obviously ur favorite band is Hawthorne Heights Mike Pooplogs, aka 28yr old petafile VirGIN. Stop talking about EMo on a damm metal site u c*** sucking b****. I hope someone curbs ur fagot a$$ at ur favorite hangout, the Mall u b****. May U all go TO HELL>; MY last POST so i got rant a little. 666

# May 7, 2006 @ 11:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. All Against All writes:

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkkkkkk yyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuu

# May 8, 2006 @ 6:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. All Against All writes:

you all may rot in hell fa**ots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# May 8, 2006 @ 6:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. All Against All writes:

red devil is fukkkkkkkkkkiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn fag!

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33. Azazel_Begotten writes:

Red Devil, that post was SPAM

Deathbringer's gonna delete that post...No one should be able to post that same thing repetitively on one post...

And YES I'm anticipating the new album...

# May 8, 2006 @ 10:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. mike pooplogs writes:

f*** uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. fags go to hell with ur fag band go f*** them.
im just kidding im only 12 . so u acually got mad and fell for it . But sorry i do like this band im just trying to piss u off. slipknot iowa forever. Im not emo dumb f***s

# May 8, 2006 @ 5:20 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. mike pooplogs writes:

cfhdon stop talking about ur self . hope u get tortured by gangstas tommorow f***. i cant understand fat sh**s that are 50 and still arent married!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# May 8, 2006 @ 5:33 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. Ramage writes:

to be honest, the album sounds gd, but the idea of the vocals coming from the FAG in H.I.M. is a little distressing, but i hope they take their songs back to the old days, with songs lik sleepless and nver more. btw, i swear if u associate an emo with CoF then ur a bit retarded (by a bit i mean alot). CoF are a gothic black metal band so f*** the emo's tbh. come on CoF dont let us down!

# May 9, 2006 @ 5:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. Azazel_Begotten writes:

mike, that made no sense at all...

# May 9, 2006 @ 10:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. flemflames writes:

=-

I hope it will be good... I "smell" it being good!

As for Ville on the album, I think it's seriously great... Ville can actually sing very well and that low voice would fit perfectly with CoF's darkening style. ONLY think of the voice of Ville... do not think of anything else related to him (HIM, Bam etc...)
What do you think now huh?

As for Dani not being able to sing: wtv! He does what he wants (growling, screaching...) but seriously he can't do that either... I have seen CoF numerous times over the past long years and Dani hasn't really improved with his voice. It sounds fvckin great on the albums but live he should just give up... it sounds pathetic.

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# May 10, 2006 @ 10:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. MorningOfDarkness writes:

I cannot wait for this album to hit stores. Cradle Of Filth is my absolute FAVOURITE! Good Job COF. And Mr. The Omen...your firts comment is completely retarted. You should talk about Mr. Filth like that. They RULE.

# May 10, 2006 @ 5:35 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. Cradlerock writes:

I like very much C.O.F I love dani filth.Cradle of Filth he is my favourite band 4ever.My album favourite cruelty and the best,midian f*** off ,I love black metal...
I wait for the next album you are the best.I like cradle of fear,f*** on,when I go for
a concert C.O.F in romania pls!!! for dani your best friend CradleRockxxx.

# May 11, 2006 @ 1:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. the war in iraq is pointless writes:

COF FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i can't wait that all.

# May 11, 2006 @ 3:23 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. Amyzing writes:

Im no expert or nothin' but realistically speaking i dont know any girls that would f**k a dude who listened to cradle of filth. face it losers chicks dont want to f**k you because your nothin but skid marks on the road of society. i wouldnt do you and neither would any of my friends. grow up.

# May 11, 2006 @ 8:54 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. slayerdisciple writes:

wtf? i listen to cof and have been f***ed, as long as someone doesnt make cof there life then it shouldnt even matter, how the f*** would they even know if they dont tell

# May 11, 2006 @ 10:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. nsbdkfhb writes:

Principle of evil made flesh was Honestly only their "real" black metal cd, if you look at "Real" black metal bands, Darkthrone,Satyricon,Immortal, 1994-1996 dimmu borgir, and stuff like that then youd all realize that, Dusk Wasnt True Black Metal It Was One Of Their Best Albums but it was more gothy and symphonic, but not growly harsh satanic blasphemy in the form of music. Now id say even Midian was streatching it (if i was as critical as some of you) but im not, music is music, if its good i listen to it. Some If Not Most of you are limiting yoursleves just cause Cradle (and Other Bands That you liked)Have Singles oooo big bad singles whatever shall we do, Who Gives A Damn like the songs are enjoyable,thats really all that matters. As for Thornography Featuring Ville valo it will be hard to swallow just the fact that hes on the cd, i dont like him and id prefer him not on it, but hey, give cradle a go, its not like they're trying to piss you all off and trying to make sh***y music. If your so called "True Black Metal Fans" Then You Were With Cradle From Principle, And Should Give a Sh** Of what record lable they're on or who they sing with, You Should Base your judgements on if the song is catchy and enjoyable or not.

# May 12, 2006 @ 10:40 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Amyzing writes:

its not a matter of telling its a matter of being a scumbag. i never met any lawers or doctors that listen to cof but i met lots of mcdonalds burger flippers and unemployed guys that listen to that crap. you can see em a mile away. and thats about as close to my crotch as any of 'em are gonna get. eewww.

# May 12, 2006 @ 4:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. Freeride81 writes:

You guys are nerds. all your names are like f**king zordon and azgaroth and s**t like that. you guys play too much dungeons and dragons. mike pooplogs is funny though . NERDS!!!!!

# May 12, 2006 @ 11:25 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Freeride81 writes:

You guys are nerds. all your names are like f**king zordon and azgaroth and s**t like that. you guys play too much dungeons and dragons. NERDS!!!!!

# May 12, 2006 @ 11:26 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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48. dani filth writes:

obviously it's gonna be one of the best albums cof will ever record
as for Ville, he's a great guy with a tremendous and different kinds of singing ability. I think it'll be something totally different than what you all sh**heads thinking about right now. COF has always been at the top of the bands of same genre, black metal and will always be.
I can't wait to an album hits the stores. those who don't like cof f*** you maggots i say

# May 14, 2006 @ 2:53 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. Maggot Carrion writes:

I think that Ville's vocals will be amazing, mixing with Dani's malicious growls and lycan throat extavaganzas. It's gonna be a really sick f***ing album, contrary to popular belief.

# May 17, 2006 @ 1:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. The Baron writes:

What? Are you deaf or just stupid? Since when were Dani Fag's vocals "lycan"? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! If you want real "malicious growls" and "lycan throat extavaganzas," then listen to "Nattens Madrigal" or "Bergtatt" by Ulver...if you can stomach real black metal. But then, anyone who niavely beleives that Cradle of sh**'s brand of metalcore in disguise (that's right kids, take away those "lycan throat extravaganzas", and what've ya got? Atreyu with keyboards, whether you're willing to admit that or not) is actually "black metal" would die of a heart-attack after hearing the opening riffs of "Hymne I--Wolf and Fear".

Don't even get me started on Ville's "amazing vocals".

# May 17, 2006 @ 4:30 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. KORNDOGG writes:

f*** CRADLE OF FILTH,I WISH THEY WOULD DIE SO THEY CAN BURN IN HELL WITH ALL OF THERE FANS

# May 17, 2006 @ 4:45 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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52. korn fan writes:

f*** yeah i agree

# May 17, 2006 @ 5:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. dark lord hu has a pet mongoose writes:

shut ur f*kin mouth u lil w**ker cradle r brilliant an y do people write comments for bands ther not interested in if ya dont like em then ignor em an dont say stuff bout em

# May 20, 2006 @ 6:28 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. idomyourmom writes:

you know of course that dani filth was caught sucking dave pybus' c**k by adrian after a show in atlanta. i havent been able to respect them since.

# May 21, 2006 @ 3:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. Guile writes:

COF is one of my fav bands along with Emperor, Immortal and all those fabulous bands, i think that Thronography sounds like a perfect title cradle of filth never disappoints with lyrics...if u dont believe me go read Cruelty and the Beast or Dusk and her Embrace Lyrics, i was a bit upset about Ville being on a song .,...that f***ing bam marguera is giving COF a bad name......but anywayzzzz COF is good,.....and all u f***s that are arguing and throwing trash at COF...get a f***ing life a$$holes!! why dont u go and read news on bands that u like instead of throwing sh**ty comments .....................losers.......
-----long live black metal--------------

# May 22, 2006 @ 12:20 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. Why, Dani??? writes:

Why does the headman of the most innovative metal band work with the gayest gay on earth, ville valo??? I have liked every CoF album from the beginning to these days, but a song with Ville Valo? Come on... Why can't they work with some good finnish band, like moonsorrow, satanic warmaster or dawn of relic?

# May 23, 2006 @ 3:30 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. Maggot Carrion writes:

In a rather late response to The Baron..
I never said that Villes vocals were amazing. I said they would sound amazing mixed with Dani's growls. That's all. And I agree with the whole Atreyu with keyboards comparison you made. It actually made me smile. I'm not closed minded to opinion, though our opinions don't exactly flow together haha. I can indeed stomach "real black metal", it's just I choose to listen to Cradle because they have some very pretty songs and to me there is no such thing as "real black metal". Metal is metal. It all has the same base.

# May 23, 2006 @ 12:51 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Crukus writes:

Dammit, i've never heard music from HIM but their poster's make the lead singer look like a c***ing Jew ! So HIM sucks, and craldle of Filth is spiraling into sh**ty mainstream ( i believe starting with Nymphetemine) others say Damnation and a Day, however i believe that reverse changing is neccasary, as for Dani's thought's his music is good but i dont want your music having catchy tunes, i wanna ponder, so quit the mainstream & money bullsh** and remain somewhat underground. Aslo. . . f*** ROADRUNNER RECORDS, theyre the ones that make cradle change lyrics and tunes simply for more money so more ears apply it!

# May 23, 2006 @ 1:27 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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59. Up Above writes:

T get to the point, i believe that this album can go either way whether its gonna be a Nymphatemine (sh**) or may be a damnation (good) many of my company siad damnoation sucks , but i believe some of they're heviest breakdowns, are within this album, although lyrically their peak is a few albums back . . . double bass breakdowns i think dominate in damnation ( especially on "the smoke of her burning" ) so to sum it up ,buy the album, if it sucks say so, if not don't complain.

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