Cradle of Filth's "Thornography" Release Date Set
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Cradle of Filth's forthcoming album, Thornography, will hit stores September 19 via Roadrunner Records. Look for it to include "Libertina Grim," "Tonight in Flames," "Cemetery and Sundown," "I Am the Thorn," "The Byronic Man" (featuring guest vocals from H.I.M.'s Ville Valo) and "Temptation."
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Please man.... this sh**'s on Roadrunner.... I'll grant that that's the label that weened me into the metal world (along w/ Epic and Maiden's label) but hell.... with the death of nu-metal, a label renouned for nu-metal can only falter as well.
Yet, on the up-side they've been trying to redeem themselves. For instance they've recently signed Zakk Wylde who has an album due out soon (check "www.theprp.com") and they put out the last Opeth album.... COF needs to get their balls back from the borrower.
That's all I can say.
Thinking culturally, nu-metal may have been the best damn thing to happen in a long time.
"Why?" you ask.
Because, nu-metal created an interest in the depths of metal, the HEART of it. And interestingly every sub-genre comes with it's own heart, it's own tempo, it's own anger towards that world that exists as we've made it. But nu-metal in and of itself quickly becomes boring - so you search deeper!
Pulsating, venemous, vehement, wrathful, sorrowful, shamed, saddened, apathetic and hardened, joyous and celebratory.... embrace the madness, accept what is yours - realize others feel the same.
So beautiful... so real.... so seperated from the fake sh** on the radio, the ego-centrists, the wiggers and gold teeth, the bling and dubs, the emo-pop-stars, the lonely country hicks.....
After all, the devil has always had the best, most inspiring music. - In the vein of A.S. LaVey.
Despite loving the old school of black metal and the accusations of blasphemy on the part of my other black metal friends, I have always loved CoF, because they have a wonderful sense of melody and progression in testing where black metal can go. CoF has been one of my three favorite bands (the others being Morbid Angel, and GWAR) for years, but I've always considered what they did to be teetering on the brink of the blasphemy that black metal purists have been accusing them of. I never had thought they actually commited that blasphemy, but they were in a direction that made it very possible since their second release under Cacophonous records. THE LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED AND I WILL NOT DEFEND THOSE f***S, EXCUSE THEM, OR EVEN TRY TO "STILL LIKE THEM"! This is bullsh** and must be stopped! Cradle has f***ed up more than that sh**ty excuse for a single "Mannequin"! Bam Magera was one thing, but this is just wrong!
If Cradle can even be saved, I propose an exercise in futility: A ban on this album, a protest to this iniquity, and a veto to its credibility! Do not buy it! If you want to listen to it, nows a better time than ever to use the wonders of piracy, an act I normally only believe in for the purpose of preview. should you decide to preview it, never, EVER download Byronic Man for fear of even a shadow of enjoyment, after which your soul would be forever tainted. Listen to it if Cradle redeems themselves. If not, keep the albums you have, but burn the possibilty of another Cradle purchase from your mind. Return to the old school, the new Dark Throne is great, as is Impaled Nazarene. But if Cradle are not redeemed then the purists were right all along and I will repent my iniquities!
What the f*** is wrong with a metal band including keyboards in their sound? Its not like Swedish "melodic-death" (which has got to be the biggest oxymoron I've ever heard, especially when one considers that a lot of it is neither melodic nor death metal) has never used keyboards!
Cradle of Filth really started to decline after Midian, though. The stuff they do now could be called BM only if you think fukkin' Green Day is BM. Ha!
In response to post five, Happysatan13, I couldn't agree more. The whole "nu-metal" pandemic helped, in some sense, unite the entire metal community. I'm sure a lot of the a$$holes on this site are probably going to be "outraged" by my saying that but, at this point, I really couldn't care less.
For the record I love Cradle of Filth. And so f***ing what if Ville Vallo makes a Guest appearance. Here is what you do, DONT f***ING LISTEN TO THE SONG a$$holeS! And how can u say Cradle has no talent. and ther mere fact that one a$$hole on here is complaining about keyboards is retarded. As far as Killer13 goes. You are a f***ing judgemental prick and u have no right to call any of us Losers. We are not rejects of Satan, at least im not, mommy and Daddy gave me enough love, so why dont you f*** back off to your frathouse and sodomize a Lacross team, you steriod freak p***y. Cause queit frankly, YOU AINT GOT THE BALLS SON!
ok everyone, i think Cradle is f***ing awesome first and foremost. Their sound DID change since the beginning. They went from straight up black metal to symphonic goth metal. however, I can at LEAST find four enjoyable songs on each and every one of their albums. That's saying something. I agree that the whole HIM/Ville Valo thing does sound a little scary but who knows. Ville has a wide vocal range and can pull off one of the deepest voices i've ever heard. they might use that voice for narration or something. either that, or they'll use him for "operatic" vocals. i do not think he's going to make a major appearance on this album like everyone is thinking. i've tried to download the Byronic Man, but as always Cradle keeps their songs locked up tight. there have been NO hits or anything on any piracy sites. i would NEVER have downloaded a Cradle album, but im slightly afraid of how this one will turn out. Cradle introduced me to the whole metal world and i will NEVER, EVER turn my back on them. i for one, WILL buy the new album and if i dont like a song or two on there, there's always the skip button on my stereo. im excited/nervous for this new album. but i guess we'll just have to wait...
First off I think in my oppinion that Cradle of Filth is awsom. Secondly If you dont like them then you need to piss off, b/c you have no right to down grade someone that you don't even know. So do like Boomer420 said IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T LISTEN TO IT ya hipacrits
Jesus, I'm glad we have some so-called "fans" here. It's very immature for people to pass judgement before hearing anything off of the new album. I hate HIM, but I'm not going to immediately idmiss this because of the label or because of one guy who has a very, very minimal part in thie album. Dani said it would be very thrashy, so I stil have high hopes.
i find cradle of filth still f****** awesome they are my favorite band fallowed by london after midnight marilyn manson and yes HIM every one here seems to hate ville and him idc i like them but listneing to him dosnt affect my head banging or attitude torwed ne hevey band id a band has good lyrics good vocal in instamentl stuff ill like them cof and him have that im looking forward to the new cd
Honestly, CoF are definitley selling out, I didn't care much for their last album. I wish they would go back to sh** like "Dusk and Her Embrace", "Cthuhlu Dawn" etc. That was when Cradle kicked ass. It's a real dissapointment to see that Ville Valo of H.I.M. is going to be on this record...
makes for interesting reading lads. coming from a jazz musician, the filth are one of the few bands I can say stand up alongside King Crimson and early Metallica. Their latest major release "Nymphetamine", whilst not being as heavy as some of their early stuff, was brilliant in every sense. I have no idea who ville valo is but like people criticised the filth for signing with roadrunner before the release of nymphetamine, lets just see what they come up with. I have no doubt the new release will push the boundaries of music and metal as they have always done. You need to be willing to be challenged to listen to the filth (get some King Crimson if you havent any), and thats why they'll always be a band you either love or hate. Unlike the standard so called death metal bands that are aimed at teenagers to play loudly as they drive around in their cars to frighten the elderly, the filth have become very mature musically and im expecting big things from this new release
Maybe mature by the standards of other genres, but although cradle has a wonderful sense of melody and are very good at writing dark, metal bands are expected to adhere to other standards as well. Most of the standards they are accused of breaking I don't see, but bands like HIM definitely break plenty of these standards. "Love Metal" standard hooks, and so forth (just about anything you can say about HIM of note) are not philosophically in line with metal's nihilistic view of this world. Cradle's associating themselves with HIM destroys their credibility as a metal band even if you assume they had never lost credibility before. Yes, nymphetamine was cradle going an interesting direction, and had some old school influence, but Damnation and a Day was a at least 1/4 a piece of conceding-to-popular-standards crap. Good Metal doesn't have singles unless you are of a subgenre that inately has an aesthetic sense accessible to the normal ear (on the worse end:Nu Metal on the better end: Southern Metal and American and European Power metal). Even these bends don't normally have single, the recent Blind Guardian single aside. Nymphetamine was a good return from the mostly weakly-written Damnation, but if Dani from 1994 knew what he'd do in 2006, he'd kill himself to prevent it.
Speaking of 1994, people are spitting out names of cradle albums but nobody has mentioned "The Princible of Evil Made Flesh". The album was old school, beautifully written (albeit horribly recorded) and had an authentic feeling that no following album from cradle had matched.
I was so f***king shocked that Cradle chose Ville Valo for a guest appearance...honestly,wasn't there anyone else?
I like HIM but why the f*** do they meddle with Cradle?
COF has always been one of my favs...and they shall always be!!!...All you gilded c***s,motherf***ers and castrated bastards....JUST TAKE IT IN YOUR STRIDE AND IF YOU CAN'T....f*** OFF...CRADLE DOES NOT NEED YOU...!!!!....MORONS LIKE ME ARE STILL ALIVE.....
lET dARKNESS REIGN....
Seems to me that people attack bands like HIM for the wrong reasons. You can go on and on about how "OMFG FAG" they are, but it doesn't accomplish anything aside from validating your own stupidity. If anything, the reason to despise HIM would be on account of their music. I don't like HIM... however... I personally don't see the problem. If a band wants to feature a guest's appearance, even a guest appearance that would outrage hundreds of fans, let them.
Seriously. Who cares? It's -their- music, -their- reputation.
It's not going against any of the band's principles; Satanism advocates acting for whatever is most enjoyable and preferable to -yourself-, and certainly, there's no credible evidence to say that their enitre album is going to "suck" on account of the guest appearance.
Boycotting buying the album (which someone on here suggested) is without point Clearly it shows that you have minimal loyalty to the band itself if you're so willing to abandon and chastise them for a trivial course of action, and that you only have loyalty for their "old" trends. Granted, you don't have to have 'loyalty' to a band; nobody said you did, and you can just be listening to them for the music, in which case...if you like their music, buy it; if you don't, then don't. What would a boycott accomplish? Is it because of some political/social travesty? No. It's the -product- that matters, and somebody is making a mountain out of a molehill.
How the Hell does associating with HIM destroy their credibility as a metal band? If they -say- they're a metal band, they play in the spirit of metal, and -sound- like a metal band, then they are a metal band by any reasonable standards. I say Cradle of Filth can make whatever career choice they want. It doesn't matter who they "associate" with... they can associate with f'ing MCR for all I care. And it certainly won't bother me, as long as they maintain the same quality of music without 'becoming' the bands they associate with.
The reason for ville valo(i won't care if his name is not spelled right, he's a right git anyway) "singing" on a c.o.f. album is beyond my comprehention. As for the band themselves, Congratulations are in order, Congrats to Cradle of FIlth for f***ing up their music so much that they had to go and get a worthless piece of ripped soggy c*** to "lend" his vocals and sing on their album. They are, sorry, WERE a great band but toward the end of midian they started to become Oh so heavenly compared to other REAL black metal bands. Huh, cof being black metal, that's a laugh. Come on guys prove me wrong. Show us that there is still some Baphomet influence inside your "blackened hearts"
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Nu-metal certainly did f***ing not help metal. Any kid who got into real metal through Korn could have just as easily through Metallica. In my eyes nu-metal created a false effigy of metal if you will, that people felt they must be 'more metal' than to be metal. Thus we have the bastard child that is metalcore, having more integrity than nu-metal (well, not in my eyes) but only a smidgen closer to metal.
I don't mind Cradle, they're good at what they do, though it's hardly black metal any more. Listen to some Beherit to hear the utter f***ing blasphemy that is black metal.
COF is pure crap they used to be old school black metal and sppeed death metal when ther demos and first CD came out then they became strickly black metal but recently they suck and now listen to there other albums they suck to There one of the worst bands of the genra and Dani Filth is just plain gay or something, scope out real black metal from Norway or Sweden instead of these clowns
They have become a "slipknot" band for younger metal audiances
Shadowslay, your point on my boycott is moot because I immediately stated that a boycott is a futile gesture. As for whether this is social travesty, well, believe it or not, that's relative. Since metal is definitely more than a genre of music and the bands in and springing from the underground come with a nihilistic philosophy about the preservation of identity on both an individual and cultural level and the lack of worth of anything outside identity, any metal band that takes almost pure vanity is guilty of breaking that tradition.
Cradle of Filth's choice in style and influence is beside the point. The point is therefor what went into the style beside core influence. Damnation had undeniably mainstream aesthetics added in. This is from the album that was created under a major label. So, it is at least safe to say that it is a strong possibility that they did this under pressure from the major. It is also possible that they did it of their own accord. If the former is true, however, it is a sacrifice of musical identity which is a grave sin in metal subculture as we all know. Also, they wouldn't have had to based on the precedent that Morbid Angel did not add mainstream aesthetic under Giant on Covenant. HIM is a band thatis based purely on aesthetic and mainstream, anti-nihilistic concepts of "Love". Love has its place in metal, but must fit in a nihilstic scheme to maintain the metal spirit. That is to be reviled in the nihilistic thought of metal stretching bnck to the early eighties underground and before. Cradle solidifies its loss of metal belief in its music by consortin with Villa. And since Cradle is a band that is still given credibilty by enough underground metalheads along with h massive popularity (relatively) I can say that this consortation can be called a social travesty from the perspective of a metalhead in a philosophical point of view.
You have to believe in something, and Metal is just as good as anything else and better than a lot of other things to boot.
refreshing thoughts happysatan and an interesting perspective, although I still maintain the healthiest path in life is devoid of belief of any kind! lol!
Your comments bad luck maniac regarding a slipknot for younger audiences are incorrect. I can speak for myself being 35 and only really getting into Cradle over the past 6 months or so. I grew up listening to twisted sister, iron maiden, sabbath etc but lost heart in the whole metal scene after metallica went downhill. Its only been the introduction to the likes of dimmu and cradle that have reignited my roots in the metal scene.
As with all bands, unless you are changing or trying something new the sound becomes stale. Id rather see them have a go at something controversial than just play the same style over and over, the reason why I liked Nymphetamine so much. Unfortunately, they could go down the path of metallica (not that cradle were ever quite that great..but still a damn good band) with this philosophy also.
whooohh...
cradle of filth is a really really good band... i like how they show what a real band is..their philosophy makes them a real great goth..whooh they have all the attitudes..
by the way cradle..try to go inside a church..its areally nice place..i've been there..lol!
whooh..you are damn good...f*** you
Why is everyone whining and complaining so much about this H.I.M./Cradle nonsense? Who is H.I.M.? They must not matter that much or something...To the best of my understanding, this is some type of messageboard dedicated to the prgression of Metal, whether it's "Symphonic Goth" or, "English Black". I've read about 100 posts, ALL OF WHICH CONTAINED SOME TYPE OF NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT SOME DECISION COF MADE to put some lame a$$ guest singer I've never heard of, on their forthcoming album. Instead of whining and complaining about how bad everyone thinks the ENTIRE ALBUM is going to be, because of one dude on one song, anyone who dares to call themselves a fan of "The World's Most Ugliest Band" should be celebrating the announcement that a new album is coming. So what, "Mannequin" was a sh** single, "Nymphetamine" certainly made up for that...and let's not even mention the quality or QUANTITY of their latest DVD, compared to PANDAEMONAEON...Anyways, my point is pretty simple, EVERYONE WHO FEELS LIKE IT SHOULD GO DOWN TO YOUR LOCAL MUSIC SHOP AND BUY THIS ALBUM WHEN IT COMES OUT TO JUST GIVE IT THE FAIR CHANCE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN EVERY SINGLE COF ALBUM YOU'VE EVER LISTENED TO...and even if you don't wanna buy it, gather a posse up and just steal the c*** lol
Just about everything that everybody has said on this site is a bunch of garbage. I have been listening to COF for some time now and whenever they do something that can be construed as something feminine or out of their realm, they always pull through. For example, on the extended version of Nymphetamine the song "Devil Woman" was originally a pop song. If you have ever heard this song, you will know that it is pretty damn heavy for originating in that genre.
By the way, for all the fa**ots that are talking sh** about the keyboards or anything else like that, COF uses anything they need to express their music, even if your taste is limited to the thrash and grind sound of the original metal(there's nothing wrong with this) please, shut the f*ck up and leave us alone. We will listen to whatever we want be that keyboards, pop music or even the fa**oty HIM. Now, I give anybody the right to express their opinion in support or in opposition towards my blog, know that I make no judgements, just opinions. For the record, the Valo guy looks like a fag and sounds like a fag and so does his band and I hope this track comes out okay, but as I said before COF pulls off anything that can be considered feminine(Valo).
PS. Mannequin was a damn good single
jesus christ on rollerblades i hate forums full of sh*t like this. "real metal doesn't have singles" "real metal doesn't have keyboards" "real metal is recorded on an answering machine" shut the f*** up. you're so dense if you won't listen to something because it's different. listen to it if you like it and don't if you don't. it's that simple. i don't like him because of valo's voice, but i'll listen to the song and if it's gay i know how to press the skip track button. and in my opinion, cradle of filth kicked balls from stuff like "her ghost in the fog" and "dusk and her embrace" up to nymphetamine. this will be no exception.
f***ing Who cares if Ville vallo is in one song im interested to see what their gonna sound like. I must say i hate him with a passion. I dont care if he's in the new cradle album for ONE song. the rest of the songs sound quite interesting its gonna f***ing rock. I hate people goin off at cradle they just dont f***ing get how good they do sound. its great .
OK, i think you guys, need to just back off and calm down. Cradle of Filth is an excellent band IN MY OPINION. Yes, their sound has changed, but that happens with most bands, over time they change, they experience, they learn and go in a similar but different direction. OK, so maybe putting Ville Vallo on their album, isn't the greatest decision they've ever made, get over it, just don't listen to it.
I do agree with most people why the HEll!!! its ville valo gonna appear on a COF album they could have got someone a bit more talented like the singer of my dying bride (www.myspace.com/mydyingbride) or Suicide Crypt (www.myspace.com/suicidecrypt), someone that would actually feature a mournful voice but never the less im sure it will rock for cradle are a brilliant band and will be forever i just hope they dont go even more softer than the previous title even thoguh it was good but bring back "dusk and her embrace and "Vempire....Killer J
Diablos, The vast majority of these comments are just a waste of space.
All you people complaining over Ville Vallo's 'fa**ot Ass' being a guest vocalist need to get a Damn Life. Hell, All you people That are talking about how ‘This’ isn’t /Real/ metal, and how 'That’ isn’t /Real/ metal also need a life. Or at least get your heads out of your asses to broaden your horizons, you narrow minded morons. [Some of you need to learn proper Grammar and Spelling also.]
Ok. '[Instrument/Item] doesn’t belong in this genre.'
Wrong. Metal is Music. In music it doesn’t matter what instruments you use. Hell, as long as it’s not your band, don’t even worry what’s in someone else’s. I agree with warp darkmatter. It would suck if a group played the same over and over. I’d rather they break borders and try new things, and get downed for that, than to have the same narrow minded f***tard fans, as some of you have proven to be.
Ok. Ville is going to be in a song. Big f***ing whoop. Jocke said 'Don’t judge until you've heard it’. That’s true. Ville doesn’t always sound the same. H.I.M. and COF sound hella different. I’m sure Ville will sound different with COF. Different is not always bad. Give it a damn chance. The worst that can happen will be 'Oh, This song sucks'. Ok, If it does, just don’t listen to it. The world keeps on spinnin’.
Some of you say COF has made bad decisions in the past and apparently continues to make them. So what? You can’t always please everyone. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it should be banned off the face of the earth and downed for eternity. If you want/like it, Listen to it. If not, you don’t /have/ to.
I'm not saying to STFU and just take it. I'm just saying don't be so narrow minded about it. You havent heard how Ville preforms with COF. You don't know what it will sound like. For all you know some of you may like it. So just stop making a big deal over something that isn't proven yet.
I'VE READ ALL YOUR COMMENTS, YOU GUYS NEED TO CHILL..IN A THOUSAND YEARS WE'LL ALL BE DUST AND COF WILL BE LONG FORGOTTEN.THE HUMAN SPECIES MAY BE GONE POSSIBLY THIS PLANET. IF YOU CAN'T STAND A TRACK WITH HIM ON VOCALS THEN YOU ARE SHALLOW AND NARROW MINDED.IF THE SONG IN QUESTION IS 2000BPM WITH BLASTBEATS FROM START TO FINISH DOES IT MAKE IT A SELL OUT OR NOT.? DEATH METAL/BLACK METAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT EXPERIMENTING AND PUSHING BOUNDARIES.THEIR IS ROOM FOR ALL TASTES IN EXTREME METAL IF YOU WANT EXTREME TRY BRUTAL TRUTH, EARLY NAPALM DEATH,CARCASS,SUFFOCATION,MARDUK, MAYHEM ETC.COF NEED TO EVOLVE AS A BAND, IT MUST BE BORING TO CONSTRICT YOURSELF AS A MUSICIAN AND WRITE 10 ALBUMS IDENTICAL TO YOUR FIRST.I AGREE PUTTING VILLE VALO ON A COF ALBUM WOULD HAVE BEEN UNTHINKABLE YEARS AGO ,BUT WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR THE ALBUM BEFORE YOU MAKE JUDGEMENT.GOGOZOMBIE MAKES AN INTELLIGENT POINT RATHER THAN JUST HURLING ABUSE AT PEOPLE JUST BE THANKFUL THAT A BAND IS WILLING TO EXPERIMENT.JUST THINK FOR A MOMENT IF EVERY DEATH METAL/BLACK METAL BAND'S SONGS STARTED AND ENDED IDENTICALLY(BLAST BEAT START-GRUFF SATANIC LYRICAL VERSE-BLAST BEAT CHORUS-MID BLAST BEAT VERSE-POSSIBLE GUITAR SOLO-SLOW PART-SUPER FAST BLAST BEAT CHORUS TO END) THE SCENE WOULD BE DEAD AND THIS SITE WOULD NOT EXIST FOR ANY US TO HAVE THIS POINTLESS AND CHILDISH ARGUMENT AND FOR ME TO WASTE 20 MINUTES OF MY LIFE WRITING THIS COMMENT.ONE OF MY FAVOURITE ALL-TIME BANDS ARE CARCASS R.I.P.I DEFY ANYONE TO SAY THEY WERE NOT EXTREME TO START WITH HOWEVER THEIR SOUND EVOLVED ALBUM TO ALBUM FROM REEK OF PUTREFACTION TO SWANSONG.THE FIRST THEIR MOST EXTREME THEIR LAST ALBUM THEIR MOST MAINSTREAM.DO I LIKE ONE ALBUM MORE THAN ANOTHER ?.YES,NECROTISM DESCANTING THE INSALUBRIOUS IS ONE OF THE ALL TIME GREAT DEATH METAL ALBUMS.BUT IF I HATE ONE ALBUM AND REFUSE TO LISTEN TO IT FOR SOME CHILDISH REASON THEN I WAS NEVER REALLY A FAN IN THE FIRST PLACE.I HAVE ALL COF'S ALBUMS AND CONSIDER SOME TO BE BETTER THAN OTHERS BUT LIKE WOMEN/BEER/FILMS LIFE IN GENERAL, IT WOULD BE BORING IF WE EXPERIENCED THE SAME SENSATIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITHOUT CHANGE.SO ALL OF US SHOULD WAIT TO HEAR THE ALBUM BEFORE ANY OF US CRITICISE IT.I AWAIT YOUR ABUSE WITH ZEAL AND WONDER IF ANYONE CAN HAVE AN INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION WITHOUT RESORTING TO CHILDISH INSULTS.I HAVE HEARD IT SAID THE ARGUMENT IS LOST WHEN ALL YOU CAN DO IS CURSE AND SWEAR.SO PLEASE PROVE THIS POINT FOR ME WITH YOUR REPLIES !!!
Cradle Of Filth lost their magic after Cruelty & The Beast and the band is well beyond corruption.
And to clarify any doubt amongst you lemons, they do not play BLACK METAL, not in the slightest dimension. Their earlier work might have showed a little influence here and there, but that's like picking out corn pieces out of poop. They did show real class in their early days, and that's all but a distant memory.
I agree that the albums after Cruelty And The Beast do not have the same flare as the earlier ones,. Lyrically Cruelty And The Beast was a great achivement of Dani. The later albums do have good songs, but they do not have the electric atmosphere.
I am not concerned about Ville Valo's input as I am sure that Thornography is going to be a decent album even though the title is rather odd.
If people have come here to b**** about Cradle Of Filth and HIM, bugger off. Why waste your breath?
I find it amazing how my 2 favourite bands are coming together. Okay, they're very different but that's what Cradle of Filth have always been trying to do, push the boundaries of black metal. I'm not too sure what 'The Byronic Man' will sound like, but this is Cradle, so we're hoping it will be good, they won't allow sh** on their album.
Okay, you guys may think that I'm being a p***y liking HIM, but I also like other black metal bands, I can't do without my Norwegian black metal: Darkthrone, Mayhem, Emperor, Marduk, Dimmu Borgir, 1349, Anorexia Nervosa, Tyrant, Isengard, Dark Funeral....
Not all HIM fans are p***ies, so up your's you f***ers who hate HIM!!!!
cradle have lots it...its so true..but being a cradle fan,i'll still get thare new album..thay were so f***ing good b4...but every band duz change sooner or later...and cradle is NOT black metal,thats a....HELL...NO.....thay have become more gothic metal now...and if i saw dani filth..i'd say it to his face..and i'd tell him to go back the way thay were..cuz its not helping cradle at all lol.but if you think about it every f**king band changes all the time,i meen name a band that never changed....but i do really injoy norwegian black metal bands like....Dimmu Borgir....Emperor...Mayhem and stuf like that...but i will be thare on september 19 to pick it up.....cradle have changed my life and i owe them that
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dude, what the hell is cof thinking puting that fag from H.I.M on their f***ing album?!!!! there better be some heavy sh** to try to redeem that f***ing album