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Nightwish Vocalist Tarja Turunen Kicked Out Of The Band

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Finland's NIGHTWISH have posted the following message on the band's official website:

"Dear Tarja,

It's time to choose whether the story of NIGHTWISH ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We've been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. Nightwish is a way of life, something to live for, and we're certain we can't let it go.

Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I've been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don't go with NIGHTWISH anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend. People who don't talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

We are involved in an industry where the business-side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it's an emotion.

To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for NIGHTWISH, rather than thinking what it has given to you.

This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: "I don't need NIGHTWISH anymore." and "Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day's warning in advance". I can't simply write any more songs for you to sing.

You have said yourself that you are merely a "guest musician" in Nightwish. Now that visit ends and we will continue NIGHTWISH with a new female vocalist.

We're sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

You told us that no matter what, the next Nightwish album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there's no sense in doing that next album with you, either.

The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It´s all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

In interviews I've mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. NIGHTWISH is, however, a scenery of my soul and I'm not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don't match mine.

We were never bothered by the fact that you didn't participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band.

We accepted and felt ok about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that Nightwish would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn't think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

NIGHTWISH is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can't take care of those duties anymore.

Deep within we don't know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn't think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

It's obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don't respect or listen to you. Belive us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.
This "compensation and more money from everything" –attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

All the best for your life and career,

Tuomas
Emppu Jukka Marco

Ps. This is an open letter for everybody."

The band recorded their "End Of An Era" live album yesterday evening in Hartwall-Arena, Helsinki.

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1. Emperor4Ever writes:

Let's see if this band can possibly be any better without her. Her voice just straight ruined their songs.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 12:19 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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2. angel of death writes:

yeah wat ever they can split up any way their suck a$$ any way

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 12:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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3. LordAgony writes:

Nightwish sucks, but damn this b-i-t-c-h is fine!!!!!!!!!!!

I love that how goth Morticia look, I heard broads like that f-u-c-k like pornstars...

Tarja Turunen huh? Nice lips on her....I bet she sucks on D-I-C-K like a pro....

I don't know about you guys...

But I'd defintley bang the S-H-I-T out of her....

And remeber kids...

CHICKS IN METAL SUCK ASS....

SO SAYS THE LEADER...

(I'm laughing so hard right now it should be illegal)....

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 3:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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4. Beast writes:

Who the f*** are Nightwish?

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 4:07 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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5. Explosivo writes:

I think they are something u flush down a toilet

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 5:48 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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6. eternal darkness writes:

fuk tarja nightwish dont need her (even though she is hot) she spoiled nightwish.Children of Bodom fuking rule

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 7:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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7. theresshitonthewalls writes:

Sounds like Tarja deserves it. It's sad to see her go, but if she's really this much of a primadonna, she's no good to anyone.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 8:17 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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8. Alice writes:

It is sad to see her go, but Nightwish needs a good singer, not a diva.. I hope for Tuomas and the other guys that they will find a good replacement for Tarja. Tarja has the most amazing voice, so it will not be easy finding a good repacement for her. Nightwish is a great band and I hope that they will keep rocking for many years.. and that one day Tarja would think of her attitude... and get her act together.. because her behaviour is very immature.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 9:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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9. Heidi writes:

Nightwish are a awesome act,and their are plenty of young operatic female vocalist's,along the same style of Tarja, she contributed nothing as far as the song-writing goes so it should be no problem.

Nightwish are to good of an act to simply fade away,unfortunately for Tarja some people just dont know when their on a good thing until they loose it all.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 10:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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10. Magical_Salamander11 writes:

Tarja isn't Nightwish. Tuomas is Nightwish. They will be fine without her.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 11:53 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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11. Symbolic writes:

The music in Nightwish was outstanding, the vocals on the early albums were ok, but Tarja ruined the band with her vocals.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 12:52 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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12. The AmaRanTh writes:

Fu-C-K 'em All ... their MuSic SuXXX

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 3:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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13. Kalina writes:

agree with Magical_Salamander11

nightwish was the first metal thing in my life, since then they've always been my fave band and they will remain
i'm just sorry that they split in such a dirty way
no doubt i'm gonna miss her, but Tuomas, Jukka, Emppu and arco have always been more precious for me
the whole day was a mess for me
now listening to Crimson Tide Deep Blue Sea instrumental, seems like Life and Nightwish go on without Tarja singing, nut i'm upset anyway

i hope all of them will be fine

@morons posting here - if you dont have anything to say except Tarja sucks, Nightwish suck - let ithem be ; )
you just sound like you are overenvious of Nightwish success and guys' talents

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 4:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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14. skujruncis writes:

f-u-c-k YOU!!!!

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 4:48 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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15. dementiaangel writes:

It's so sad ,when you think you are better than any one else 'specially when you are in a band .A band is a whole not just one person.Hope she will realise that! They will be fine without her.D.

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 5:41 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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16. Fallin angel lilith writes:

god i hate marcelo now and i miss tarja not being in the band anymore >;<; this has got to be the most depressing thing in life!!

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 6:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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17. LodAgony writes:

Its not that Nightwish sucks, their music is just not my style....

I'd rather go to a show to see Slayer than some c-u-n-t and her band anyway....

Speaking of c-u-n-t-s, Korn sucks....

SO SAYS LORD AGONY.....

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 8:42 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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18. Milakian writes:

F*CK NIGHTWISH. THEY f***IN SUCK

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 9:00 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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19. ... writes:

hey... shut up... nightwish is one of the most important bands of finland... !!!

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 9:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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20. metal head writes:

THAT b**** IS NOT HOT U f***IN GOTHIC FAGS

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 10:43 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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21. simon writes:

Hey guys i dont care if you like the band or not but if you dont then dont fill the forum with trash for the actual fans

# Oct 23, 2005 @ 11:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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22. Kalina writes:

Nightwish is one one the most important bands in the world, not just Finland ; )

@metal head: who is gothic here? huh?

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 12:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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23. kyle writes:

f*** nightwish , lacuna coil is way f***ing better than nightwish

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 12:43 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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24. marcus writes:

lacuna coil better then nightwish?

dude what? your kidding right?

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 12:54 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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25. some_guy writes:

Nightwish can actually sing, unlike Lacuna coil. Too bad Tarja and the band were miles apart...

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 1:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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26. theresshitonthewalls writes:

'Nightwish can actually sing, unlike Lacuna coil'

Uh what?!?!?!? Both Tarja and Cristina are incredible singers (It's just a shame about Tarja's apparent ego problem). Nightwish are definitely better than LC, for Tuomas Holopainen is a much better songwriter than Marco Coti Zelati.

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 2:36 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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27. theresshitonthewalls writes:

By the way how does saying that a chick is hot make someone a fag???

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 2:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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28. HIm fan writes:

yea its just not natural to be in a metal band and not evn like metal music good riddance lets hope the other musicians can make names for themselves making proper music!!!!! \m/

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 3:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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29. DonnA writes:

Can't be,Tarja is one of greatist femail vocals of metal...pitty,I realy like her voice!By the side I had an Info that she didn't liked metal.If it is so...than it's better that she is kicked out...

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 5:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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30. Josheh writes:

Note to all Nightwish bashers: Shut the f*** up!

Anywho, it's ashame that Tarja had an ego problem, I really thought she was cool. I've only heard one Lacuna Coil song, so I'd have to say Nightwish are 1000 times better :P And Christina and Tarja are amazing singers, but Amy Lee is still crowned number one in my books.

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 1:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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31. BrianSD writes:

I'm not a fan of Nightwish, only know a couple of their songs, but I like the attitude of this band. Get rid of her, she's obviously draggin them down, she doesn't have an irreplaceable voice and she plays no instruments.
Touring is a big part of metal and the US is a big market, and she doesn't want to do it...f*** her.
Austrailia too, I feel bad for them, they can't get too many shows out there because of the expense for bands to travel there.

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 7:01 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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32. theresshitonthewalls writes:

'Austrailia too, I feel bad for them, they can't get too many shows out there because of the expense for bands to travel there.'

That is absolutely true. It's an absolute f***ing blessing when a good band comes out here.

# Oct 24, 2005 @ 8:10 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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33. HIm fan writes:

LOOK TARJA HATES METAL IT'S JUST UNNATURAL TO BE IN A METAL BAND AND NOT LIKE METAL I'M GLAD THE SLAGGING BI TCH WAS KICKED OUT

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 3:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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34. Tukan_Malta writes:

Nightwish are good enough without Tarja!! Tuomas is wat really makes Nightwish, and those who practice together and take a sh**load of their time in order to make music are the band, not those who only work in order to get paid. Tuomas, Marco, Emmpu and Jukka make music, Tuomas writes the lyrics and does the WHOLE arrangaments for the orchestration, but wat does Tarja do? She just sits there waiting for everybody to finsih wat dey have to do and just sing for like 4 minutes, while the others had to be playing for like 5 days!!
I must admit that im not a really big Nightwish fan, as i'm more into the likes of Slayer, Lamb of God, Chimaira, etc but knowing wat it's like to be in a band, i must say that Tuomas, Jukka, Marco and Emmpu made the UTMOST right decision for the future of Nightwish, even though Nightwish wont be the same without Tarja.

visit www.deathtrip.net ____ it's my band!! leave comments! \m/ \m/

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 5:46 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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35. Asphyxia writes:

Nightwish always sucked anyway. I suppose the music is ok but her voice cut through me, she ruined everything that could ahve made me like the band!

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 5:55 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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36. 666 fuck everyone, die now!!!!!! writes:

yeah what ever they suck c*** and rape a$$

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 6:06 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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37. HIm fan writes:

yes finally people who agree with me i love you ppl you rock!!!!!!

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 6:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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38. Surpalainen writes:

Wtf! how can you do this against me and her! She's my friend! and she feels very down right now, i feel very sorry for her! Take her back!

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 6:50 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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39. farid writes:

f*** uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 7:16 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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40. HIm fan writes:

oops well you see i never liked nightwish anyway.....................................

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 9:02 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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41. Symbolic writes:

If this would of happened about 2 years ago, on this site there would be about 10 posts at the most with fans of nightiwsh on it, now we have about 30 losers who hate the band posting stupid comments that no one cares about, oh the joy of mainstream success.

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 9:25 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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42. ckaxe writes:

U.S.Metal Head,back in the day, here. On the insults towards Nightwish. If you are a musician and you have any type of success. May the insult you put on others come back to you. Your band may suck too. Those who are not musicians well you have your place but show some respect towards women. From the underground ,ckaxe,guitarist.

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 11:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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43. umknownname666 writes:

what ever makes u happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# Oct 25, 2005 @ 3:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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44. HIm fan writes:

look just i never liked nightwish anyway so you can't tell me off fu cker

# Oct 26, 2005 @ 3:31 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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45. Glad2BMad writes:

I'm actually happy about the news! This means that I can actually listen to Nightwish in the future without that opera b**** yodling all over the place. Really great news!!!

# Oct 26, 2005 @ 8:39 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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46. skribb writes:

Not really. They're probably getting someone similar, no?

# Oct 26, 2005 @ 9:13 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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47. Kyle_smith writes:

Holy sh** tarja gone. Nightwish will be nothing with out her she owned the band. the end of nightwish begins.

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48. dravenmaxx writes:

That was the most poetic axing I've ever heard. I really would love to hear more from Nightwish, and I hope they can find someone to fill Tarja's shoes. By the sounds of it, this really needed to happen and I respect the band for what they want out of their music. Thanks for the tunes Nightwish, many more to come, I hope.

# Oct 26, 2005 @ 1:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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49. HIm fan writes:

I'm sorry but I really don't like nightwish they just irritate me

# Oct 27, 2005 @ 3:32 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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50. raped_fist writes:

I hope that the singer from Epica replace Tarja,,,

# Oct 27, 2005 @ 4:34 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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51. Glad2BMad writes:

Well, Nightwish is not through just yet. I actually know for fact that the guys got Tarja to join the band cos they couldn't find anyone else. That's the truth as incredible as it may sound like. And they just got successful quickly and well, that was it. But anyway, Tarja's a trained opera singer who doesn't even like metal, so ... "so long witch!" That's what I think. Besides, she was quite well known for her bigger than life ego. They're better off without her. IF it means the end of Nightwish, well that's the way it was going to go anyway

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52. what ever ? writes:

yeah this band was going place tarjabut no she and so is the band unless they just die

# Oct 27, 2005 @ 8:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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53. Glad2BMad writes:

Oh, by the way, just before I get hammered here for slagging off Tarja, just think: they got her in the band, so Nightwish was "there" already and just needed a singer. And now she's going "oh, if you dont like working with me in this band, you can just leave". what the hell is that? Like a player firing the coach
Just in addition... how can ANYONE find Tarja hot?? She looks like a witch!! And now we all know that it's not only the looks...

# Oct 27, 2005 @ 8:57 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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54. White Power writes:

Yea, she sucked. Her voice ruined everythin

# Oct 27, 2005 @ 1:11 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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55. thersshitonthewalls writes:

Actually, Tuomas and Emppu were starting the band when they invited Tarja to join. Originally Nightwish was acoustic mood music, which I'm betting she was more into than metal.

Either way, hopefully Nightwish will go on to better things.

# Oct 28, 2005 @ 3:47 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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56. legs 0702 writes:

omg u cant kick her out she rules dude u have no idea wot music is about if u kick her out the band is gonna be rubbish without her

# Oct 28, 2005 @ 6:08 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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57. Machine head. writes:

They can live without her. Actully Nightwish didn't need her. They will find a better singer.

# Oct 28, 2005 @ 7:27 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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58. Kalina writes:

actually i'm getting more and more relazed about all that because i dont think Nightwish needs those "mtv-goth" folks, who were attracted by Tarja's image on tv screen without any doubt

i'm happy now, esp after reading some interview which make it clear that they have nothing in common - Nightwish and Tarja

Nightwish - reborn! :headgang: :hug:
old fans will be loyal anyway :P

cheerz to all!

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59. Kalina writes:

*relaxed
not "relazed" lol

# Oct 28, 2005 @ 2:14 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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60. KORNFAN writes:

i've never heard this band but to those that think chicks shouldn't be in metal listen to OTEP it'll probably change your mind

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61. theresshitonthewalls writes:

Nightwish slay Otep KORNFAN, you should check them out.

# Oct 28, 2005 @ 5:57 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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62. Keyy writes:

They did the best thing, even if probably they'll never be Nightwish anymore

# Oct 28, 2005 @ 6:31 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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63. slayer writes:

nightwish would sound ace if the bassist dude marco took over the lead singing role!!!

# Oct 29, 2005 @ 3:34 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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64. Sully writes:

They should have kicked her a$$ out along time ago......she's got Cottage Cheese for a Vagina!!!!

# Oct 29, 2005 @ 3:56 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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65. Zapp writes:

someone wrote: "omg u cant kick her out she rules dude u have no idea wot music is about if u kick her out the band is gonna be rubbish without her"

I'd say, her voice is not very good at all. actually, she is a really BORING singer. Just like "nanananana", like with a little opera like voice. She is not very talented at all, and I know many people that are better singers than her. I'd say go on nightwish, and be the band you were supposed to be, and just leave the old crap singer. Get a new one, and a GOOD one.

# Oct 29, 2005 @ 7:22 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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66. LordAgony writes:

Blah, blah, blah....

WHats with all these posts on Nightwish? This bands sound was bullsh** and you know it...

Chick bands suck, why dont you guys get that?

Speaking of women in metal.....

The four female fronted bands I completely hate the most:

1.Otep
2.My Ruin
3.Evanescence
4.kittie

The one that really pisses me off is this MY RUIN....

HOW THE HELL COULD EAZY-E WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH A STUPID C-U-N-T LIKE TARRIE B?

A man who could have easily pimped her sorry a-s-s to any of the members of N.W.A easily...

THEN THIS B-I-T-C-H HAS THE NERVE TO DO RAP/METAL....

WOW, LOOK OUT, ITS FRED DURST WITH A TAMPON.....

Do we really need PMS having kunts with bands?

CHICK BANDS AND BANDS FRONTED BY CHICKS SUCK A-S-S.....

I dont care if it makes me sexist either....

I MAKE LARRY FLYNT LOOK LIKE DR. PHIL....

SO SYAS LORD AGONY....

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67. marcus writes:

"I MAKE LARRY FLYNT LOOK LIKE DR. PHIL...."

you sure do you dumb sh**.

# Oct 29, 2005 @ 10:07 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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68. theresshitonthewalls writes:

Yeah, that isn't a good thing. I think I'll go and spin some more Nightwish, Arch Enemy and Astarte.

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69. key to nothing writes:

if bands fronted by chicks really do suck then i would like you to explain arch enemy and walls of jericho for me

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70. psythe writes:

FVCK ME, the chick from Arch Enemy is fine. Walls Of Jericho rock on, too.

Come on, guys, not all chick-singer bands suck - what about Enya? ...okay, so now i'm joking, but seriously, what's wrong with tits on stage, huh? Beats balls any day.

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71. Angel of Death writes:

arch enemy have chick singer and fine one at that. but night wish are more pop metal than other and lord agany you you are wrong once more the bigest loser in chicks band s would be envanesence that band f***in sucks i only count one desent riff. but his band you can jut flush down the toilet. latter bichtes

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72. dadevil writes:

i agree wi abady who finks the leadsinger ruins nightwishes songs. they r btr without her

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73. tornbrokenbruisedbattered writes:

i agee with above posted message.

# Oct 31, 2005 @ 8:59 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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74. Pete writes:

note to people who post sh** .... : GET A LIFE !!! we dont go post sh** on band we dont like so dont lose your time ...

well tarja is an awsome signer but if she a total b**** i guess its better for them to leave her behind..

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75. gary writes:

f*** all the haters night wish is cool

# Oct 31, 2005 @ 10:58 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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76. DeadInfidel writes:

ok wow, first things first way to be really mature about it , if ur not a fan and u got nothing to say but insults then dont waste our time. grow up alittle and try to be decent people, if u dont like the band fine, say so dont go and say all this sh** about it..

second i truely was bothered by the fact that she was kicked out until i read this letter, as a long time fan it sucks but is obvious she needed to go, my only hope is they can continue on and write the amazing songs they have done so far.

and to all of you who say female fronted bands suck u obviously have no appreciation for music, and im sorry to say u might as well be brain dead..

tarja im sorry to see u go but u need to get control of ur ego, u have an amazing voice but u let it goto ur head

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77. Cancer writes:

LOL. Nightwish sucks anyway.

# Nov 2, 2005 @ 8:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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78. Cancer writes:

LOL. Nightwish sucks anyway.

# Nov 2, 2005 @ 8:47 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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79. Neurotictim writes:

Damn, that sucks! I understand band dynamics and all that, but I'm going to miss her voice. The vocals are as much a part of that band as the amazing scoring, and I'm going out to get all the Nightwish cd's I don't already have.

All you guys hating women in metal, grow up.

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80. blondie writes:

to the one who commented on the fact that tarja doesn't play any instrument-dude, the voice is an instrument just like the guitar and bass...

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81. MistressLunaDraven writes:

Chicks don't suck in metal...Tarja's voice is angelic...and Nightwish is a f***ing kickass band. Come on you motherf***ers. Can't you step outside of your stereotypical, cliche "heavy metal" f***ing boxes? Women with voices like Tarja, are not found often. Open your f***ing minds, and stop being dumb f***ing c***s. ^_^

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82. kenneth (belgium) writes:

not every band with a girl in sucks!!!
and not every girl who is in a band is a singer
in our band the bass player is a girl and she kicks ass!!!!
www.bloodravyn.be

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83. Siegfried writes:

Pretty glad to have that commercial crap out of the band. Now Nightwish can start concentrating on some real music. (ever thought about a male vocalist?)

# Nov 3, 2005 @ 3:49 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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84. ana_zor(romania) writes:

Nightwish are good enough without Tarja!! I think they are doing a good to the band Tuomas is the leader he does all work and i think that without her nightwish will still be rocking.
If tarja takes Nightwish as a sacrifice that means that all the 9 years with band hasn't mean anything to her..Nightwish is a way of life and it is also an emotion it is something to live for.Ii is true that Tarja is a great opera singer and will be hard to find someone to replace her.I like Tarja v much but if she does a bad to the band maybe it will be good if she will go on with her life and her career.
Nightwish you are the best and i will listen to you until the end.

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85. vlad(romania) writes:

Nightwish are the best with or without Tarja cause their music comes from the soul .
Nightwish I LOVe YOU all !

# Nov 4, 2005 @ 3:15 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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86. Reptylia, Transylvania, Romania writes:

Hey, Nightwish fans, don`t be disapointed, Nightwish is still alive and well and they will rock on for years to cdome. And look at the good part: Nightwish might be better without Tarja.(I hope...)

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87. . writes:

recently went to c a nightwish gig in london they kicked ass. sorry to c her go but cant wait to c who they will get to replace her its not going to be easy as her voice is pritty amazing. Will be interesting to see what they come up with next.

and btw wtf are you doing posting hates agains nightwish, if you dont like them why come on a forum like this your waisting your time and everybody elses get a life and go listen to music you like and post on their forums. losers

# Nov 5, 2005 @ 4:06 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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88. Dani writes:

Agreed. Nightwish has the most amazing stage charisma; and in many ways that is Tarja's contribution. Yet I'm sure the band will come out strong, with someone BRANDNEW, FEMALE and FINNISH taking over as lead singer. Good stuff... Finnish girls rock

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89. Daae writes:

Hopefully, they'll find a new singer who's as good as, or better than Tarja. Even though a lot of the people posting here seem to think she's sh1t...which I don't agree with. But, to each his own. I think Nightwish is a really talented band, and they'll survive. It sucks that she took a b****y attitude about the band though.

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90. Lord KAvi writes:

I think nightwish will give up without her. no one cares to inner sh**s that a band have! we just like this band and enjoy of that. So I believe without her no one like'em all.
nightwish without her voice never exists!

# Nov 9, 2005 @ 5:51 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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91. HIm fan writes:

i loved the musical ability of the artists in the band i have always respected them but tarja's voice didnt suit their music and her voice may have been good but she wasnt a metal head she was a classical woman she never belonged in that band after she got married her husband changed her thats all i have to say

# Nov 10, 2005 @ 3:41 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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92. A huge fan writes:

How dare you say those things about Tarja... If you are not true fans, then let the peole who actually know a thing or two speak for the rest who love Nightwish. Tarja has a beautiful voice, and she inspired me to start singing with my friends (for fun) thw whole band has inspired us to make movies, and sing and get to know each other a whole lot better then we knew each other before. I am entranced in Nightwish's music, and this is my last comment: Nightwish will not be the smae without Tarja, I will not be buying the CD's with the new vocalist unless she is as good as Tarja...and kicking her out of the band didn't exactly get you any new fans.

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93. Tarmac tears writes:

Tuomas is a sweetas writer, tarja seems like one unholy b*itch anyways.. although i'm much more into more thrashcore metal like Slayer and Hatebreed i dont reckon any other goth-metal band in the world could pull off a more unique song than Wishmaster. IN FLAMES are god.

# Nov 11, 2005 @ 5:35 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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94. HIm fan writes:

Thats what i'm trying to say the band rockz but Tarja sucks

# Nov 11, 2005 @ 9:01 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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95. A Huge Fan writes:

Might I also say that Nightwish is widely recognized as a very new and unique sound, because it is like the first band to ever include metal opera, which attracts many different kinds of people to listen to it. I never liked metal music until my friend got me listening to Nightwish...(I was intruiged By Tarja's voice, and didn't know opera went so well with metal music, if you have a smart group.) Now I am more open minded about music, and like all different kinds exept rap, which in my opinion is silly. I showed Nightwishe's music to my whole french class at school, and three quarters of the class actually wanted to go out and buy the CD. No word of a lie. Nightwish won't be the SAME Nightwish without Tarja. (just my opinions, if you dont like them then just dont read them.)

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96. who cares writes:

f*** all of you

# Nov 12, 2005 @ 3:26 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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97. HIm fan writes:

I like Within Temptation her voice is cool Tarjas voice gets annoying after a while

# Nov 12, 2005 @ 6:56 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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98. Ocean Soul writes:

Whatever so many of you say, Tarja can sing. She has a great voice.
I'm gonna miss her very much, and kicking her out of the band was the only right thing to do for Tuomas, Emppu, Jukka and Marco. She only wanted money, for everything. And she was going to quit the band anyway after their next album. And the way she behaved... It make me sick.. :/

Tuomas found one very good female vocalist (and Marco..), so I know he won't let us down :)

If they loose many fans now because of this, I don't think they will care that much. Because, this was something they had to do. Nightwish is emotions, not money!
It's all your loss, not theirs.

Have some faith in the guys people:)
Who knows, maybe it'll be better?

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99. A huge Fan writes:

look at it this way... if you liked the band and were a true fan BEFORE all this, then you OBVIOUSLY liked Tarja, otherwise you WOULDNT have listened or cared about the music. I mean, why would you like a group, but just not the singer...it doesnt make any sense, because it's the singer's job to bring the lyrics to life. So I don't see why all the true "fans" are loving the idea of her leaving, because if you liked the group in the first place, none of this should change the way you fell about her. (get what I'm saying?)

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100. daffy writes:

well i liked nightwish a whole lot and i still do...to me she had a great voice but when ya gotta go ya gotta go...no1 likes a greedy person so yea...all i can say is that i hope they find another great female vocalist...ROCK ON PEEPS

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101. Pierre writes:

Nightwish is the best band in the world. Marcelo has been a bad influence for Tarja. It's really sad to see her go!

# Nov 15, 2005 @ 11:23 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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102. Knives writes:

For all of you who seem to hate nightwish... shame on you.... and as far as Tarja's voice, it was amazing, in my eyes, she gave the songs wings, most of their songs are really deep, and Her voice only helped that, all of you who are saying that "The band is better off without her" and "Tarja sucked anyways" no she didnt... and I don't see them going much further, I see an R.I.P. Nightwish comming....
End of an Era indeed.

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103. Mojo writes:

Hey I'm a nightwish fan - and I think it's great! Her motives and attitudes are clearly totally wrong! Imagine being in a band with that going on - not speaking for a year etc! crazy! I enjoyed the music they made and am excited about what they may produce in the future.

Sucks to be you tarja!

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104. y'all will burn in hell haha. writes:

i mean its so stupid to screem at the top of your lungs for a f***in song. get a life losers.

# Nov 17, 2005 @ 10:28 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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105. TO me Night wish ROCKS writes:

wassa well those F**kin stupide how dont know a damn thing should go and f**k themselves. Noghtwish rocks and they can surely become a better band without tarja.
well they really rock Like the song "I wish I had an Angel," dont l3et that fu*king biatch ruin the band

# Nov 18, 2005 @ 2:38 PM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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106. chav-hater writes:

its sad to see tarja go but metal is not wannabe divas posing for money. nightwish are better with toumas !

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107. crzy_criz writes:

nightwish was the first band i ever heard metal mixed with opera and ever since then my taste of music has branched off from there. sorry to see tarja gone but sometimes her voice ruined the music itself (depending on the song). all the best on her career and it would be interesting what nightwish does from this point on.

# Nov 21, 2005 @ 3:12 AM ET | IP Logged Reveal posts originating from the same IP address
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108. XUnique-SoulX writes:

I truely think Tarja is an awesome singer! I do think I have an pretty good voice and I wanna train to sing rock/metal, you guys who think girls shouldn't be in metal really do need to grow up! I think girls rock at it because their not stripping their clothes off and talking about how much they want guys to...do stuff to them like in rap. I also think that they did what they did for a good reason, Tarja deserves this I mean she may be pretty and she may have such an angelic voice but, if she never wrote songs or practised, then I do think she deserves to be kicked out a band is a whole not singular. I love Nightwish but I'm sure Toumas and the others will go on and find someone who truely feels the emotion of Nightwish other than greed and selfishness.

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