Otep Shamaya Talks About How She Continues To Grow As An Artist
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Guitar riffs, killer bass, brutal drumming, grueling screams, and poetry that sticks in your mind for days; this is a band known as OTEP. I had my first experience with them on 2004's Ozzfest and have been hooked ever since. Here is my first interview with OTEP's vocalist, Otep Shamaya, as she talks about the backgrounds of where she grew up, a little bit about the band, and their new album that just got released on October 30, 2007 The Ascension.
Becca Parry: So I'm with Otep Shamaya on the phone here, which is the lead singer of the band Otep. Just would like to thank you for taking the time out to talk to me here tonight.
Otep Shamaya: Not a problem at all.
Becca: So your name Otep was given to you by your mom who was a fan of Egyptian times. What exactly does Otep mean?
Otep: From my understanding, it's a word used in African nations now and it can mean a number of things. Its a greeting; it also means peace with you and creative offerings. I believe it was a suffix in ancient times and was commonly used at least from my research.
Becca: That's a cool name; always thought it was very unique. The starting point in this industry for you; what made you want to do music?
Otep: I've always been a creative person whether I'd be drawing, writing, or something like that. Building things. I've sort of lived through my imagination and eventually it got to a point where those outlets weren't as satisfying as they have been, so I decided to give music a shot and discovered a lot and I've been happy ever since.
Becca: In 2000 you guys had formed, and from what I understand, you and Evil J McGuire are original members. Since then you've gone through some guitarists and drummers and met up with Aaron Nordstrom and Brian Wollf. How did you meet them?
Otep: Actually we had a bassist before Jay so he's not an original member but he's the longest member in the band and one of my best friends. Aaron and Brian are actually old friends of ours and we were looking for a drummer who could play aggressive music and fast music but someone who has a capacity and sense of all kinds of music. He has an amazing ability to play hip hop, jazz, metal, to rock, and classical. He also was a fan of the band and he understood the direction of the band and where we were coming from which is really important to us. He has a great energy and spirit with this band. We've gone through a lot of guitar players after Rob Patterson and met up with Aaron Nordstrom. I was looking for someone who was creative and technical which is really rare because you can get someone who isn't very creative and very technical or someone who is creative but not very technical of a player. So we were looking for that and we found it in Aaron. They both round out the band really well.
Becca: Yes I think they do round the band out really well too.
Otep: You know I've always wanted a band that was just a bunch of musicians that were very dedicated and very loyal. Someone who brings in their own creativity and inspirations and inspires all the rest of us in the band and understand the message we are trying to send across. Someone that works hard which is very rare in this business and not try to develop a celebrity ego.
Becca: Right you can't have someone who has that rock star attitude and is not in it for the music.
Otep: Right, yeah that's right! The down side with having friends in a band is you lose a friend but you gain a player which sucks but it happens.
Becca: Yep, it happens with any band but you just keep going with what you love. Now when you guys started playing in LA, you played at The Viper which Johnny Depp had owned. I heard it was haunted and some things have happened to you while you were there? What exactly happened?
Otep: I don't know if he still owns it but I know he used to but yea, we were about to do a show for an album release or something and right before the show I was a little nervous about a few things and the label we were on at the time, the president was on his way to see us.
[Fans outside screaming "Otep!" over and over again]
I don't know if you can hear that but there are people standing outside our bus screaming for us to come out ha ha. What's up!
Becca: I don't hear it at all but that's cool as hell that they can't wait to see you.
Otep: It's always great to hear that from the fans for sure, but umm all of a sudden I started to get anxious thinking about everything and all of a sudden the cd player came on and it was The Doors which is one of my favorite bands. There was no one in the sound booth at the time and everyone said ohh it's the ghost and I said well what do you mean? So they tell me they didn't know who it was that it could have been anybody. It was pretty nice of the ghost to turn on roadhouse blues for me to calm and settle my nerves so it set the standards and the spirit of the night and it turned out to be a really good show.
Becca: Wow creepy but something really cool. I think I'd be running out the door if that happened (laughs).
Otep: (laughs). It was calming and soothing.
Becca: Didn't you guys land a deal with Capitol Records that night?
Otep: No, not that night. That's probably what we were celebrating.
Becca: Oh ok ok. Now your no longer with Capitol right?
Otep: No, thankfully. We are now with this magnificent indie label record company and they are called Koch Records. They are intelligent, artistic, creative, and they know how to sell records. They understand music, musicians, and they understand music business which is nice. It's a refreshing environment to be in I can tell you that.
Becca: It's always better to be in something that is refreshing and is understanding where your coming from and what you want to do.
Otep: Yes and they don't limit us to what we can do which is nice.
Becca: In 2001 Sharon Osbourne had asked you to be on Ozzfest. What was your reaction to it?
Otep: Umm, we were a little blown away and excited you know. Really unexpected and it came out of no where. I always believed that we would be on Ozzfest that year even when I didn't have a band. I had gone to Ozzfest in 2000 as a fan with some friends and I saw this really crappy band play. I can't remember who it was and they were being really disrespectful to the fans and to the girls in the audience. I just remember thinking if they can do this I can do this and I looked at my friend and I go "you know what, I'm going to be here next year". He just laughed at me and said you don't even have a band and I'm like it doesn't matter. You watch and of course, we were on ozzfest the next year.
Becca: (laughs) I bet he was a little taken back by it.
Otep: Yeah he was. Once I get my teeth into something, it's hard for me to let it go and that was something I really wanted and was bent on doing.
Becca: You're very driven and you need to be driven in this business because it's a tough business.
Otep: Yes it is, yes it is.
Becca: You have released three albums and two Eps, which do you think is the favorite you've done so far?
Otep: My favorite, well it's hard to say, but I had the most fun with and more excited with the new album then anything else. We got signed so quickly and only had done about four shows and I didn't really get to know my band members as musicians. So we were all pretty much strangers getting to know each other. With this record, the band itself has discovered each other and sounds. Jay is very proud of his bass sound on this album and Brian is very comfortable with the new styles we put on him as a drummer. We only released 3 ½ records and others were eps which is something I did on tour on my lap top from some poetry and spoken words that we were just giving away.
Becca: Congratulations on the new album by the way which came out on October 30th. I picked it up and can't put it down.
Otep: Thank you so very much.
Becca: "House of Secrets" is one of my favorites and during that album you had, Joey Jordison and Greg Wells on it. What was it like working with them?
Otep: It was pretty phenomenal. Greg and I got to know each other and is one of my friends now; and we built a great friendship. Joey is one of my favorite drummers of all time so it was a dream come true to work with both of these people. I had a lot of fun with them and I learned a lot and hope to work with them in the future.
Becca: Growing up in LA, what was that like for you?
Otep: I was subjected to a lot of violence and poverty that I don't really care to focus on too much because I'm trying to get past that through art and music. Just becoming what it is that environment tends to create. It breeds violence and monsters and I would prefer not to fall into that trap and hopefully continue to grow as an artist and set a new standard for people who refuse to accept circumstances their forced into. None of us can control who our parents are, what our genetics are, what part of the country we are raised in or what our dna is. How tall we are, color, sex, gender, orientation; it's something we are born into but we can create our own lives and our own identities according to our own standards and that's what I hope to do promote through my own self evolution and proceeds of self.
Becca: It's sending a message out to the fans that there is some kind of hope out there and they don't have to subject to it.
Otep: Yeah, that's what I hope to promote, is that we can't have to give in just because that's what everyone else does.
Becca: Right, right. Now recently you've gotten tattooed on LA Ink and I haven't got the chance to see the show that you were on but you got an octopus on your right shoulder blade that takes up most of your back. What's the meaning behind it?
Otep: I got it for 2 reasons. First reason, to commemorate the passing of my brother. He was in the navy and the octopus represents the ocean to me and the eternal mystery of the sea and I was always very proud of Mikey for being in the Navy and I wanted something to memorialize his life that I can have with me all the time so tattoos helped with that. It was a couple years ago he died and we miss him everyday. We always try to send soldiers care packages but the government sometimes sends it back but we try to get it over there to them. I do oppose the war in Iraq and I think it was a mistake but I support the troops and they are doing an amazing job with what they are given. Second reason is I'm also attracted to what it symbolizes, which is the subconscious mind eternally seeking answers. The octopus lives in the depths of the ocean and seeks out it's prey. I was kind of a romantic and someone I had a crush on liked it so I kind of got it for them too, but I don't really talk to them anymore.
Becca: I agree with you. I think the war was the worst possible answer but I give the troops my support because they are over there fighting for our freedom. Bush does not get my support though (laughs together). I Just got two more questions for you.
Becca: How far do you want to push this band and see this go in the future?
Otep: I want to see us in a sold out concert in the ruins of churchilianiums; that's what I want (laughs). We are just going to keep doing what we do and try to be the best musicians we can be and the best songwriters. You know, part of music is to nourish the soul and keep our messages out there with personal philosophies but offer people to wrap their minds and ears around it. So we will just keep doing what were doing and they seem to be catching on and that's great.
Becca: Yes it is great and your fan base has definately progressed over the years from when I first remember seeing you guys in '04 at Ozzfest. People knew who you were but then you got the ones that were just finding out and were loving what you were doing.
Otep: We hope they keep loving what we do.
Becca: My last question for you is basically just a message to local bands and fans.
Otep: Local bands you need to play as much as possible and play for the right reasons. If your playing for girls, money, liquor; then go do something else because I think your being a detrimence to music. If you're playing because you believe in music and art, then you're adding to the true spirit of creativity. To the singers out there, I always get asked a lot about writing lyrics; just keep your head full of words and read everything you can get your hands on. It's important that you do that. To fans, thanks for believing in our music from the beginning and the new people coming on board; thanks for being a part of this movement and everyone's support is appreciated. I never thought I'd have the opportunity to be surrounded by such amazing people. I'm so blessed to have these people. We are going to do our best to entertain you guys.
Becca: You guys are doing an awesome job at it. I'd like to thank you so much again for taking the time out to do this interview and I hope to be photographing you guys here in the Cleveland, Ohio area and congrats on the album again as well.
Otep: No problem. Thank you and thanks for the interview. You take care.
Becca: You too
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AP: So, Otep, what's the big f***ing deal with your crybaby ass?
OTEP: Well, I got raped when I was fourteen and decided to whine about it across three albums and one EP.
AP: Alright, thanks for your time. Go die somewhere before I put a shotgun in my mouth and Curt Kabang myself.
I suggest checking out their albums Sevas Tra and House of Secrets. Check out songs called "Blood Pigs", "Possession", and "Filthee" from Sevas Tra and then check out these songs from House of Secrets. "Warhead", "Buried Alive", and "Hooks and Spinters". Can't go wrong with any of those songs. All very powerful and awesome!
Great interview man! That must have been quite an experience.
Metal bands with female vocalists have always reminded me a bit too much of my girlfriend screaming at me for one reason or another, so I've never checked this band out...but if you speak so highly of them I believe I shall look into them :]
Hey, great interview! The new CD is really awesome, and I can't stop listening to it either. Ignore that one hater up there...I've seen him being negative towards them on other sites too. For anyone who wants to hear some Otep here is a sample from their page at ReverbNation: http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/98689 This will open a small browser with a playlist in it. Or go to their myspace at /otep. Copy and paste if you feel inclined, since MU strips hyperlinks. :) I agree with the other posters too, try anything off the new disc or "Blood Pigs" or "Battle Ready" from Sevas Tra or "Warhead" or "Buried Alive" from House of Secrets. You can't really go wrong.
The new OTEP album is NOT good. I'd rather puke on my c0ck and jack off with it.
I think ALZBETA is OTEP in disguise. Either that, or a desperate street team member trying to get rid of her STREETWISE garbage. f*** OTEP and anyone who likes them.
...and the closest I ever got to being a$$ raped was when I went out and paid good money that I worked for for a copy of Sevas Tra.
That album should be titled Kcoc Skcus Peto.
You can give me credit for whatever you like, Crawford - I like who I like and don't really give two s**ts what you think about it.
I'm walking out on Hellyeah, because I'm not going to see them, I'm going to see Otep, and again, I don't give two s**ts what you think about that. I'm not here to impress anyone with how "metal" I am or what the f**k ever - find someone who cares what you think about them if you need the ego boost.
And, for the record, real big of you to hope someone shoots me because of who I like musically and who I don't. Real big of you, man. Grow up.
her childhood abuse is sad but GET THE FVCK OVER IT, life is unfair stop complainin like a little b**** and get over it, this band is useless alltogether she cant sing or write good lyrics (and shes not hot despite wat most people think) and the rest of the band are horrible musicians, Otep and A7X are the only bands that i can honestly say that i hate
Where is it she complains about her childhood life? She simply said that's something I try not to focus on or get into. She must be doing something right if she's on tour and been on OZZFEST a few times. Alzbeta thanks for the info on what lineup of songs there are. That's very useful!
Hey, neurotictim, any comeback that makes you feel like the better person won't change the fact that you will be paying Otep money. That's YOUR fault and it makes you a projectionist to try and get mad at me for it.
And I never said you weren't "metal". I said you were a f***ing retard.
Ozzfest? Last year and the year with Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Slayer, and Dimmu Borgir were the only good years that ozzfest has had since it started so them bein on Ozzfest is nothin special in fact imo it actually takes away from Ozzfest's credibility (P.O.D. was still the worst idea yet tho)
That's MY fault... Fault is useful when blame needs to be assigned. I'm not making any apologies for liking Otep, and I tend to give money to bands I like. I'm not mad at you, I'm not projecting anything on you, and though it appears it's not sinking in, I'll remind you that I truthfully don't give a s**t what you think. I'm not going to lose any sleep over whether or not you have a problem with me seeing a band you don't like, or walking out on a band you do... A band who's dummer, a guy you have implicated respect for, watched as his was brother shot in front of him... And then you do him the honor of hoping someone is shot walking out on one of his shows... I suppose irony is lost on some.
I'll cede your point on the "metal" bit, though I didn't really intend for that to be aimed at you so much as just a statement in general... Probably could have used some delineation.
I'll be sure to say hello to Otep for ya, if I can push past all the other retards who are going to see them.
For one, I never said anything about respect for Vinnie Paul. I know that's the general remark about Hellyeah, and I'm impressed with your ability to think you know what I like about a band, but there's more reasons than that to like them.
As far as your idea of irony goes, irony is actually when the result of a given situation is the exact opposite of what is expected. There are a lot of words describing someone getting shot outside of one of his shows. Coincidence, yes, but not ironic. So, as far as irony being lost on me, that's pretty absurd considering I actually know what irony is.
I'm sure you'll be able to see Otep and give her my greetings. I don't imagine there will be too many people in that line.
When you see her, tell her a guy that you talk to on a website wants to know that since she's done the starving bleeding artist thing, and now the high school trendy-goth venture into homosexuality, if the next logical step is just for her to lay down and die already. And, if not, when will that happen? And ask her to show her work, too.
I was specifically referring to dramatic irony - i.e. the idea of walking out on Vinne Paul's crappy "super-band," one that's far less than the sum of its parts, aggravates you enough to suggest shooting me. All the while knowing fully that a disgruntled fan, blaming his brother for breaking up Pantera, shot Dime five times in the head at a Damageplan show. The irony here is that you would suggest shooting someone who didn't like the music he creates in spite of the fact that Vinnie Paul himself would think you were nuts for saying it... Maybe you're right, maybe it's not irony... fits my definition, but maybe it's just you being a sh**head. I've been wrong before. Doesn't change anything, I'm still going, and I'll enjoy every minute of it, unless they play TRIC - kinda tired of that one - and I'll be sure to post every detail here when I get back and sober up. Not that you care, but hey, someone might want to hear what a great show they put on.
I'll also make sure to let Vinnie Paul know that a big fan of HellYeah wanted me shot for not sticking around... If I see him before I leave. Might even ask him if disappointing (not quite the gestalt they were hyped to be, seriously) redneck-butt-rock bands are all I can expect from him in the future, too.
Of course it's me being a sh** head...and no matter how much you explain yourself, it's still not irony if you get shot like you deserve to after paying money to see Otep. IRONY would be if YOUR band was playing onstage and Vinnie Paul climbed onstage and shot YOU. Not you being mad at me for thinking you should be euthanised to prevent you from breeding. Vinnie Paul thining I'm nuts would be a mere judgment call. NOT IRONY.
See what I mean? Not only do you NOT know what you're talking about, but you STILL keep talking about it! Come to think of it, you DO seem like a HUGE Otep fan. f***in' retarded.
You could just call a spade a spade and say you're paying money to see 2 sh**ty bands and you're only staying for 1. That means you're getting DOUBLE ripped off. D:
And what makes your delusional a$$ think you're going to get backstage to talk to all of these people? Like they want to talk to you. They want you to pay your $30, sit there and listen to them churn out the same setlist they've been playing over and over, buy an assload of merch, and leave like a good boy. If they talk to you, they'll just be daydreaming of how much cash is in your wallet.
Trust me, dude, I bet if you were the last man on earth, that lesbian whore Otep still wouldn't talk to you!
All right Crawford, you've got me over a barrel, you're the smartest guy around and definitely know all about me. I should be shot, euthanized, prohibited from breeding, whatever you think... Good thing you're a nobody just like me. And not that I would trust you anyway, but I'm sure that being lesbian has nothing to do with whether or not Otep would talk to me, and I doubt she's a whore. Not that any of that matters one whit to me. I do see what you mean, and I disagree. Sorry to disappoint you, but I still don't care. You got another one right - a spade is a spade - I'm paying good money to go see a band I like opening for a band I don't like - I'll still be walking out as the guys from Hellyeah are walking in. So I'm getting ripped off, but at least I won't be listening to that crappy excuse for music they churned out to appease the A&R guys who worship the all-mighty dollar. I think it's a decent trade.
And, ironically enough, my band has played at the venue they're playing, I could very well indeed use a connection or two to get backstage, even as far as the lounge, to hang out with these guys, but I really didn't intend for that to be taken seriously - it was tongue-in-cheek. Of course, your definition of that is probably different from mine, so I guess maybe you didn't catch that while you were hyperventilating over my use of irony... At any rate, there's nothing useful to this conversation anymore, so I'll bow out - you can claim the win or whatever it is to you. As mind-numbing as your superior wit is to me, I have better things to do with my time than this. Don't worry, though, I'll find this thread after the show, just to let the people who actually do like Otep know just what they can expect from the show.
Geez would you guys shut the f*** up!? Your acting like a couple of 12 year olds going at eachother in a chat room. If it pleases you to keep acting like idiots then do it else where. CrawfordTexasJingoJango you are an obnoxious pathetic little boy. I hope you choke on you own d*** and die while trying to give yourself a blowjob because no one else will go any where near your pathetic immature ass. If you dislike OTEP then wtf are you doing here? Honestly grow the f*** up or just go lay down and die already yourself.
Crawford is a dumb f++k and let's leave it at that. For your information, I was able to meet Otep at Ozzfest and she was very cool. A nice person who is not a snob at all. She is an artist, and a bit eccentric, but was friendly. I had a different impression of Christina from Lacuna Coil. She seemed to be in a daze or just blew me off...lol
Not the first time that has happened, though! The point is - have fun dude - and if you get to talk to Otep - that will be great. She seems like a really nice person. I would recommend wearing a Soulfly shirt - she likes them!
well i love otep! and i am proud to say i do. if you dont, then ok. free world. it's like there is no respect anywhere anymore.
if you dont like someone, state it then move on. people tend to take things so personal on some of these sites. geez. there are plenty of artists/musicians i dont care for, but i dont take my time to call names and berate them and their fans. it's just not worth my time to do so.
otep's songs are her journey. if you start with sevas tra and go forward. the newest cd has songs of empowerment on there for many of us who have lived thru some of the things she has written about. i will forever be an OTEP fan.
"Just saying they must be doing something right if their touring"
So wat? A7X is tourin to and they are doin everythin wrong (imo) as is Atreyu and Horse the Band
"No the worst band to be on Ozzfest was Crazytown. Your missing Pantera on there by the way"
Ur right i forgot crazytown, i left off Pantera intentionally as they werent on the 2004 lineup with Black Sabbath and Slayer nor the 2007 lineup, and the 2000 lineup that they were on sucked as them Ozzy, and BLS were the only good bands on the lineup (actually they were on the 1997 lineup which had a good mainstage)
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Neurotictim, the only "connection" you could use to get backstage is your mouth connecting to the bouncer's nutsack.
And Cynic, to explain Ocrap to someone who's never heard them, here's what they sound like: They sound like a badn full of mediocre musicians led by a self-righteous sh**ty performance art poet who can't decide which demographic she wants to sell her band to, so EVERY single song is about some kind of horrible thing. Murder, rape, etc... Now take the same stock bass guitar and a drummer who thinks he's tribal but the only tribe he's ever belonged to is the Starbucks Warriors, and then mix that with the thought of hearing the death rattle of your first born child. That's what Otep sounds like.
Actually, you should just go to a local old folks home and listen to lonely geriatrics slowly dying in confused agony before you listen to Otep.
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Great interview Becca, keep up the good work. And all hail the mighty and hot otpe!