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Getting Unholy With Sacrum: The Deadly Interview

The furious sounding thrash/black metal band, Sacrum, from Memphis, Tennessee, recently hit me like a thunder strike right between the eyes upon first listen . Brothers, Brad (vocals)and Jeff (lead guitar) Williams, along with Harvey Waldman on drums and Big John on bass are quickly finding popularity in the underground metal scene. I wanted to help us all learn more about this heavy music act and the brothers were more than happy to oblige.

Rocket: Tell us how Sacrum came together. You had initially started as a hard-hitting rap outfit in the Memphis, Tennessee area called The Dirty Dirty Boys, correct? How in the hell do you go from rap to a brutal thrash metal band? This is some fascinating stuff.

Jeff: Well, I along with Harv and John played progressive hard rock behind 7 rapping frontmen (including a brother and cousins of 3-6 mafia). We had been jammin on Pantera, Megadeth and Dream Theater already, and I overheard my brother singing Iced Earth, and I was like, "Fuck, you should sing for us", and so it all started there back in late 2002.

Rocket: I noticed from reading your band bio that all of you guys have been through quit a bit of life adversity over the last couple years. Tell us more about this. Is that where you draw most of your inspiration from?

Brad: Being 12 hours from death will really put things into perspective. Our new song Through The Machine draws directly from that experience.

Jeff: Our dad died when we were still young of lung cancer. He was a non-smoker. Harvey's step brother at only 15 died in a car wreck in which Harvey was driving. John almost choked to death on the way to a King Diamond show. I have had so many stiches from various head injuries its insane. Not to mention countless friends murdered, suicides, and drug casualties. We put all this in Sacrum.

Rocket: I listen to a hundred new metal bands on MySpace each month doing research, and I have to say that when I heard Sacrum's The Haunting for the first time, I was utterly blown away by its brooding, dark tone. How does the band go about writing songs? Is there a chief songwriter?

Jeff: I write the music, then show it to the rhythm section. Harv has an uncanny ability to play an inventive beat to a riff that makes Sacrum swing, and Big John is as solid as a motherfucker as it gets, always in the pocket.

Brad: The majority of the lyrics are written seperate from the music, I bring a brutalness, that takes those bad ass riffs to another place. This shit is our life. I want to be heard cause there is a meaning behind every track.

Rocket: I have to imagine that you guys have been getting some killer reaction on The Haunting from the fans off your MySpace profile page, right?

Jeff: Yeah, Crate on 92.9, a local Memphis radio station has been playing it alot, alot of good response even from non-metal heads, anybody reading this who hasn't heard it go to our MySpace and let us know what you think.

Rocket: Are you one of those bands that actually interacts and answers your fan emails to get that kind of feel?

Jeff: I have been doing the MySpace thing. My brother ain't got no fancy book learnin'. He can't even turn on the computer.

Rocket: Haha, man, u got a way with words. Okay, tell me about the band's main metal influences, in terms of who you have studied the most to help create the Sacrum sound. You cite Dimebag and Pantera as the big one, correct? Who are some of the others and why is Pantera so important to Sacrum?

Jeff: Pantera was the band to refine what metallica refined from black sabbath. Hands down the best metal band ever, their chemistry inspired us to be the sick 4 piece we became.

Brad: Each member has their own individual favorites but the general consensus is King Diamond,Old Metallica, Dream Theater, Megadeth, Iced Earth and Testament. Also, any 80's metal with a good guitar player.

Rocket: What is your current recording process? More specificaly, give us more on the equipment you are using. I'm very impressed with the professional level you have achieved so early on.

Jeff: We have done all the recordings ourself with the help of Rob Fascelli, a friend and former bandmate from our prog metal band Turbulence. Rob has helped us be cost effective, but still deliver good product consistently.

Rocket: Does Sacrum have an entire album's worth of material ready to go if you are to get signed soon?

Jeff: We have 2 bad ass albums, the debut and follow-up, along with 2 more albums locked in my mind and hands, stored away in the endless riff-box.

Rocket: You guys have made it clear that you plan to do some summer touring in Los Angeles and Texas, right? How is that developing? I would love to see you heads stomp through the Hollywood Sunset Strip scene.

Jeff: Well, we have a contact in TEXAS, who is hand delivering our DVD to Lemmy from Motorhead, and also the owner of The Whisky and The Rainbow room. We are thrilled about coming out there, there is not a metal scene where we are from, and to play where GUNS N ROSES and The Crue came up, we would definitely shit ourselves, but we wanna play Texas and Florida too.

Rocket: What is the main message you are trying to put out there with your music? Is it all doom and evil, the ugly side of life...or is there something more positive you're trying to say as well?

Brad: Coming from the bible belt people think we are satanists, which couldn't be further from the truth. They hear that dark, intense shit we do, and it scares some, but we got a fucking sense of humor about everything, the music is all we take serious, that and putting on a killer fuckin show. Hopefully folks can relate to some of the lyrical content of the album, cause I know I ain't the only one tired of this day to day bullshit, 9 to 5, well fuck that. Maybe that is what inspired our live favorite, Fuck The World. It's our love ballad.

Rocket: Phil Anselmo has always said that the true pulse of metal lies in the underground. Who are some of Sacrum's favorite underground metal acts?

Jeff: Epoch of Unlight are pretty cool, I like fellow Metal Den alumni, Perdiem and Stryk-9. They fuckin jam!. Also Rufus T. Firefly, and anybody I can drink a beer and fuckin jam to.

Brad: Any band that doesn't gay out come chorus time, I hate FAGGOTY CHORUSES!

Rocket: Oh man, I think we just lost our San Francisco audience. Umm...haha... anyway, man, all of us true metalers are still seriously trying to come to terms with losing Dimebag back in December/2004. Do you recall when you heard the news yourself? How did you feel?

Jeff: I was lying in bed, my friend Andy called and said Dimebag was murdered, and my immediate reaction was "you have got to be fucking kidding". I cried like a fucking baby and played my guitar for a few hours, praying for Vinnie and the Abbott family, for his bandmates, crew and friends, and his undying loyal fans, I still havent made sense of it. This is rocks biggest fucking tragedy, fuck John Lennon! We were supposed to meet Vinnie and DIME when DAMAGEPLAN came to town, their father had a heart attack and they had to cancel, I had dank blunts rolled up to smoke with my heroes, and once again I said, " You have got to be fucking kidding me."

Rocket: Sorry, I'm still laughing inside from that San Francisco comment. Alright, finally, what well known metal act would be your first choice to tour with as the opening act? And why?

Jeff: I would have to say OZZFEST, the chance to jam and interact with all the different bands and not to mention a big crowd, even opening the main stage, would be a dream. I wanna meet Zakk Wylde and OZZY, but once again I would probably shit on myself.

Brad: Us opening for Priest (HALFORD) and Iron Maiden (Dickinson) somewhere in Europe -- or a triple bill with Loudness and Stryper in Pittsburg. (LAUGHS)

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1. Lisa Marie writes:

Too bad for the San Fran crowd...
better for us

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2. PERDIEM writes:

Word..thankx for the props..Hope to see yall in florida soon....

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3. Stryk-9 writes:

Great interview we are honored to be mentioned!

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5. Rob Facelli writes:

If you guys think The Haunting is badass, wait until you hear the new sh** I'm working on with these guys. It's gonna rip your f***ing head off!!!! (by the way, there's no "s" in my name)

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6. Marty writes:

Holy sh**... i've seen these guys live 2 times... they kick a$$ hardcore style! Sacrum kick f***ING ASS!!!!!

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7. Samantha Redmond writes:

I think my space is not a bad site I just think people should not give out personal information.
But my friends and me go to myspace and talk to each other and other people we know not to strangers.

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8. Pierced Priestess writes:

Another great interview from my boy Rocket....and I must say I am liking Sacrum alot!!!!! Wooooofreakinhooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9. jettfuel writes:

ROCKET, keep it coming! MUCH RESPECT, BABE ~ Jett

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10. sadke writes:

I think she r the best girl i ever seeing in my life

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11. alec writes:

i work with jeff as of right now! sacrum is definetely here to stay and to kick the sh** out of all the other metal bands on the scene!

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12. G Sneed writes:

Sacrum songs make me wanna kick down walls, and butt f*** dragons.
Keep it up muf***ers

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13. Mike Davidson writes:

Great interview, great questions! I worked with Brad(lead singer) a couple of years ago, and the day I met him he said that he was in a metal band and being a huge metal fan my first thought was " I bet this is complete garbage". But when I went down to the storage facility they practiced in at the time (a 5x10 storage space) and saw them play for the first time, I was truly blown away! I really thought maybe I was seeing things, but my first thought was "These guys are really on to something"; the next time I saw them play (approx 3 months later because Harvey had to go to England for school) they were better than I remembered. It was at that time I started to video all the practices, shows, and behind-the-scenes footage because in this day and age you have to have a DVD. But what makes us different is that instead of your same old DVD with minimal (and most times, boring) behing the scenes footage we want to take a page from the Pantera book on "How to make a DVD". The videos that they put out were the funniest, most interesting videos I have ever seen! Most of them are hand-cam quality but it really doesn't matter because it's all about content, which is why this band (Sacrum) is so special, because you are talking about 4 guys who love music as much as any 4 people I have ever met and their only dream is to get their music heard and travel the world playing the most devestating metal around. The fact that the band is from Memphis,TN also is very important because as many recent movies (Walk the LIne, Hustle and Flow) and shows have pointed out ,without Memphis and all the great artists that have come out of our city (Elvis, BB King, Al Green, Jerry Lee Lewis, the list is endless) there would probably be no rock and roll and most certainly no heavy metal. We are from the "Mecca" of modern music and that feel and that groove in Sacrum's music is a result of where we are from and why we offer something that most metal bands can't. This band is true to the music and will be true to anyone who decides to become a fan of this band. These guys are also some of the most technically sound musicians I have ever seen in my life and I have seen some of the best bands ever in their prime (Van Halen, Dokken, Motley Crue, Metallica, David Lee Roth -1986, just to name a few) and these 4 guys have what is called "it". "It "being that intangible something that practice alone cannot buy, but having a true love and respect for music is what these guys have that make them the band that they are. When Harvey gets back in July 2006 ,we are going to be ready to show the metal community what we have to offer! God bless our hero, Dimebag Darrell for his inspiration on not only how to treat your fans, but about pouring your heart and soul into your music which is what we should all learn from this great ambassador of Heavy Metal.

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