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Christian Metal

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Mar 4, 2010 8:41 PM ET #1 (permalink)

I've always been aware of the existence of Christian rock music, but I've only recently discovered extreme Christian metal, Christian death metal and even black metal. I find the entire concept pointless, and honestly, I'm a bit affronted by it to say the least. What do you think?

Mar 4, 2010 8:45 PM ET #2 (permalink)

Christian black metal? There's an oxymoron if I ever heard one. I have nothing against Christians who want to make metal music, I just don't see the point either.

Some not-too-terrible metalcore bands profess to be Christians, so I'm not saying it's not a valid genre.

Mar 4, 2010 9:15 PM ET #3 (permalink)

no there actually is Christian Black Metal, it sucks though

i dont really like Christian Metal Bands but i know one that is kind of worth mentioning

Sanai Beach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnlHdQJPtgM

Mar 4, 2010 9:15 PM ET #4 (permalink)

Christian metal in my opinion is completely to the side. Christian black metal... Well black metal is mostly rebellion, just about always against Christianity or against everything National Socialists are against... so if it's supporting Christianity... Theyll either be ignored or beaten on by true black metal.

Mar 4, 2010 9:24 PM ET #5 (permalink)

well said

Mar 4, 2010 10:18 PM ET #6 (permalink)

I actually think Christian metal lyrics can be awesome in some cases, I mean - we all listen to Viking metal sing about Valhallah and plenty of Satanic bands right? I think once you overcome the stigma of Xtianity some lyrics can be the same.

"The one you love is dead
feeling so empty inside
I know it hurts

Out from the depths
I cry to you
shed all your tears
for the one, who is dead

We loved you in life
hate you in death
how could you leave me here
all alone

poor souls wait for the Lord
paying for sins which have not been paid in life
pray for the dead - for it is of faith that these poor souls
can be saved

He's not to blame for his death
For his death
one day his fate will be yours
and we'll pray for you."

Anyway, Trouble and Believer are two of my favourite things so that's where I get this from. I personally have no belief but it doesn't stop me from enjoying awesome metal.

Mar 4, 2010 10:21 PM ET #7 (permalink)

christianity and extreme metal just don't make a good mix.

But then again anything christian leaves a bad taste in my mouth, so who am I to judge?

(This post was last edited on March 4, 2010 at 10:22 PM ET.)

Mar 5, 2010 12:45 AM ET #8 (permalink)

I think people take the term "Christian Metal" a little too literally. I mean most of these so-called christian bands I've heard don't always sing about topics related to jesus or mother mary, they're simply a bunch of dudes in a metal band who happen to be practicing christians. Iron Maiden's drummer Nicko is christian, does that make Maiden a christian band? they've had topics in their songs related to religion - Judgement of Heaven, Hallowed be they Name to name a few. I think people need to look past the fact that these bands are christian and judge them on the music they execute.

LDB: Is christian black metal really an oxymoron, I thought black metal was supposed to be about the music and the panda bear faces and satanic shit was secondary. If thats an oxymoron then so is straight-edge stoner metal.

Mar 5, 2010 3:53 AM ET #9 (permalink)

Crushem wrote:
"I find the entire concept pointless, and honestly, I'm a bit affronted by it to say the least."
Master_Randomizer wrote:
"christianity and extreme metal just don't make a good mix."

Perhaps a factor in my annoyance is because they hit close to home for me, but I really find those statements to be downright arrogant. The message doesn't matter, as long as it's intelligently written, or if the lyrics are crappy or mediocre, at least has good music behind it (the latter being the case for most metal). Spaghetti and Cynic have the right idea.

(This post was last edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:00 AM ET.)

Mar 5, 2010 6:45 AM ET #10 (permalink)

Cynic: I love those lyrics, have to check them out.

I don't discount a band or say they "suck" if they happen to be Christian, I'd be missing out on some great sounds if I did.

Mar 5, 2010 9:04 AM ET #11 (permalink)

I'd imagine some can be good, most i've heard in my opinion are bad though, atleast the ones that try to get their message across through more understandable vocals anyways. Unfortunately anytime i think of christian metal i think of Lordi.

Mar 5, 2010 4:17 PM ET #12 (permalink)

Lordi is Christian? XD

btw As I Lay Dying sucks major ass

Mar 5, 2010 5:39 PM ET #13 (permalink)

I don't care if someone's Christian as long as it doesn't build up stupid and useless amounts of prejudice.

Mar 5, 2010 8:33 PM ET #14 (permalink)

Lordi's not a Christian band, haha.

Mar 5, 2010 8:35 PM ET #15 (permalink)

oh, cause i was gonna say...

Mar 5, 2010 10:19 PM ET #16 (permalink)

Natsquatch, I guess that was a bit arrogant. I was mainly referring to Christian black metal, in that to me it just doesn't make sense. To me it's like a Muslim going to a Jewish synagogue. And no, at least for me personally, black metal is just as much- if not a bit more- about the message and the atmosphere the music creates as the music itself. Something with a Christian message sounding like Satan coming out of my stereo is kinda back-asswards. Tho I have no problem with metal musicians being Christians. To each his own, ya know? I just like the message and the music to coincide.

Mar 5, 2010 11:29 PM ET #17 (permalink)

I would love to read lyrics from a Christian Black Metal band. LOL!

Mar 5, 2010 11:59 PM ET #18 (permalink)

Hahaha seeing how brutal christian black metal lyrics are would be funny xD.

Mar 6, 2010 1:40 AM ET #19 (permalink)

Crushem explained it perfectly.

Mar 6, 2010 1:04 PM ET #20 (permalink)

Christians can make metal all they want to but let me explain a couple of problems I have here. Black Metal was founded on Satanic and Pagan beliefs and was to be exactly the opposite of "God" (and death metal)...so I dont think it makes very much sense if you praise God while playing that style. I also dont think God would be very happy with it either considering the past events that have happend in the glory years of BM...anyone else?

Another problem I have with claiming you are Christian is that its most likely just a selling point of some sort. Like, "hey! We're Christians and we make extreme metal. We are sooo different and ground breaking, check us out!" Heres another sign that metal is becoming so damn commercialized. Ugh...I dont know, Im going to continue down the super, uber evil path in my BM and if those dudes wanna try and praise Jeus in it then let 'em. Theres my rant, hope you enjoyed it!!

Mar 6, 2010 11:24 PM ET #21 (permalink)

^Yeah man cuz "tr000" black metal bands HATE god and jesus and everything, Satan rules.

"Another problem I have with claiming you are Christian is that its most likely just a selling point of some sort. Like,
hey! We're Christians and we make extreme metal. We are sooo different and ground breaking, check us out!".

Do you think you could maybe elaborate on that a little? I really don't see how being christian and being in a band is an automatic marketing ploy, especially when these so called christian black metal bands seem to be so underground and that many christian bands do not preach.

Mar 7, 2010 2:34 PM ET #22 (permalink)

Ill elaborate SM:
I was just stating the opinion that when you are trying to market yourself you want to state the fact that you are different to sell yourself. If you came out and said, "oh, we are just regular dudes playing just regular BM." Thats not a very good selling point. Now, if you say, "hey guys, we are different from all of those other BM bands because we are Christians. Not like those other BM bands that are uber satanic." I dont know, it just seems like they are stating the fact they are Christian to get people interested or in my case, not interested at all. People, including metalheads, are always looking for something different and a Christian BM band is really different.

Also, I dont know if your first statement was a smartass comment but yeah, 90% of BM bands out there are pretty anti-God/Jesus and pretty much pro-Satan. Im not saying you have to be Satanic or Pagan to be "tr000" but BM was founed on the proverbial "destroying Heaven". IE: wearing Satanic paraphenelia, church arsons, corpse paint, desecrating graves and worshipping death. Those are all pretty evil and sooo anti-'good'.

Mar 7, 2010 4:30 PM ET #23 (permalink)

Hmmmmmm I see what you're saying. So you mean christian black metal then. Well that kinda makes sense from what you've said. But I still think that unless your lyrics are preachy, as in you wanna force you beliefs on your audience or just appeal yourself to fellow christians, then being christian and being in a band isn't much of a selling point. Christian black metal on the other hand, yeah I could see that being a little marketing trick but I'm still not 100% sure on that.

And yeah my little comment was a bit of a smartass remark, I'm just not a black metal fan.

Mar 7, 2010 5:17 PM ET #24 (permalink)

Oh ok. Yea, I didnt care if it was smartass or not I just couldnt tell, thats all.

Not a BM fan, eh? Thats alright..."to each their own" We are all metalheads here and thats what matters.

Have a good one man!

Mar 7, 2010 6:14 PM ET #25 (permalink)

I still find it quite odd how Christians protest at Metal concerts. Shouting "This is the devil's music!" like they were back in the 70's-80's.

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