Band Photo: As I Lay Dying (?)
From: San Diego, CA, United States
Last Known Status: Active
In early 2001, vocalist Tim Lambesis began writing music and lyrics for what would become As I Lay Dying. After meeting up with guitar player Evan White and drummer Jordan Mancino the group decided to move forward as a three piece. A month later they hit the studio to record “Beneath the Encasing of Ashes” released on Pluto Records in June 2001. Following its release, the band completed a number of tours. Through persistence and hard work “Beneath the Encasing of Ashes” became the top selling Pluto release.
Ready to move forward, As I Lay Dying recorded five songs for a split release with American Tragedy. The evolved follow up caught the attention of a number of people including various record labels. After a 70-day summer tour, the band came home to prepare for the things ahead. In March of 2003 As I Lay Dying signed with Metal Blade Records while recording a full length entitled “Frail Words Collapse.”
This 12-song release features dynamic improvements in both songwriting and musicianship. “Frail Words Collapse” (July 1, 2003) is full of brutal and emotionally driven songs that transition seamlessly from precise melodies to neck snapping rhythms.
With the rigorous tour schedule a new record demands, Tim Lambesis and Jordan Mancino decided to solidify the lineup. After touring with a number of fill ins, As I Lay Dying became complete with the addition of musicians Clinton Norris, Phil Sgrosso, and Nicholas Hipa.
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What was old is now new again, as much like with Hollywood returning to Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and Terminator, metal heads had a desire for past and present to collide throughout 2014.
This was another year of major reunions and comebacks with the likes of At The Gates, Slipknot, Sanctuary, and Massacre all returning with new material. The long dead Coal Chamber also came back to life, although we won't see an actual release until next year (with varying opinions on to whether that particular resurrection was wanted or needed).
Besides all the blasts from the past, this was a year marked by spectacles in the metal world – some truly unfortunate and others less so. Heavy metal managed to hit the Facebook trending bar and gain exposure to millions when 92 year old actor Christopher Lee released his Metal Knight EP and Christmas single ”Darkest Carols, Faithful Sing.”
Tim Lambesis of As I Lay Dying was finally sentenced after being arrested back in 2013 for attempting to hire a hitman to kill his ex-wife – an act that lead to the creation of Wovenwar, featuring the remaining members of As I Lay Dying as well as a fellow ex-believer from Oh, Sleeper.
This was also the year that included Roadrunner Records botching the release of the first Opeth single from “Pale Communion” and subsequently breaking the Internet. And who could forget Wintersun's infamous rant (perhaps best summarized as “I can't possibly record an album unless its in my own personal studio that someone else has paid for”), which sent a horde of lemming-like fans to send death threats to the Nuclear Blast Facebook page?
Typical metal shenanigans aside, this was actually a solid year for metal overall even past the major reunions. Now moving into 2015, the big question marks are if that Metallica album actually comes out, when Dimmu Borgir is finally going to get around to leaking some new info, and for those of us who have been impatiently waiting since 2012 – when will God Of Atheists finally drop that debut release that we voted most anticipated two years ago?
Before any of those questions come close to getting answers, let's take a look back at what 2014 had to offer for metal fans... More...
Last week it was announced that failed hitman hirer Tim Lambesis was seeking a reduction in his sentence, asking that the year he spent on house arrest with his parents count towards his planned six years of incarceration.
Radio.com is now reporting that the request has been denied by Judge Carlos Armour. An excerpt from the article follows:
Looking pale and grim with arms cuffed behind his back, Lambesis looked on as his defense attorney argued that his year with limited movement — only allowed trips to his attorneys’ office and medical appointments and to the bank — should count as time served. Prosecutor Claudia Grasso countered, “He’s not entitled to credits.”
Judge Carlos Armour stated the law is clear, that credits only apply to inmates held in lieu of bail; he described Lambesis’ status as electronic surveillance while out on bail. “The GPS monitor was not a condition of bail,” and so he was technically not on house arrest, the judge determined. According to statements in court, Lambesis was privately monitored, not by the sheriff who controls those in custody in San Diego County. Additionally, the judge denied the requested custody credits.
The session began with a review of the trial’s basic information. Lambesis was sentenced to six years in prison on May 16. He was arrested on May 7, 2013, the same day he handed an enveloped full of evidence (money and photos of his family) to an undercover agent posing as a hitman. Lambesis was in the middle of a divorce with his wife of eight years, who has since reverted to her maiden name, Meggan Murphy.More...
Read the full article at Radio.com.
After spending just under a year on house arrest with a GPS monitoring device, former As I Lay Dying member Tim Lambesis was given a six year sentence for attempting to hire an undercover police agent to murder his wife.
Radio.com is now reported that Lambesis is seeking credit towards his six year term for the time he spent under house arrest at his parent's home in California. The site reports:
Tim Lambesis, once singer for the San Diego metal band As I Lay Dying, and his attorney are expected back in court next week arguing that he deserves “custody credit” for the days he was on “house arrest,” after hiring a hitman to kill his wife.
“There will be a hearing on July 18th to determine if the time Lambesis spent on house arrest will count as credits towards his prison term,” prosecutor Claudia Grasso stated in an email. Tim Lambesis is expected to be in San Diego’s North County Superior Courthouse at 9:30 a.m. next Friday, before the same judge who sentenced him to six years in prison, the Honorable Judge Carlos Armour.
Lambesis, 33, was in the midst of a bitter divorce battle with his wife of eight years when he agreed to pay $20,000 to an undercover officer to kill his wife.
Former bandmate Nick Hipa - now part of the new project Wovenwar - also recently discussed the situation with Lambesis in an interview. Get highlights of that talk at this location.
Read the full article at Radio.com.
After the amusingly ridiculous interview with would-be hitman hirer Tim Lambesis - in which he blamed his actions on lack of belief in god - former bandmate Nick Hipa (now with Wovenwar) has conducted an interview to speak about the band's demise, the rise of his new group, Christianity, and more in the MetalSucks podcast.
During the hour-plus long interview, Nick Hipa claims that Tim Lambesis’ crime was not completely out of character, stating:
"Any dude in a band … they are very aware of their bandmates’ highs and their lows, the strengths of their characters, and their flaws. You kind of just accept each other for it. I think even to the extent that you’re like, ‘Man, y’know, this dude sucks, but he’s got other things going for him.’ But for us, we started to see the degradation of [Lambesis'] character to [the point where it was] like, ‘There’s nothing really redeeming here. This guy is losing touch. What do we do? This is somebody that we’re involved with on multiple levels.’
"And so we just tried to keep things together as well as we could, and not let any of those things ruin the band and what we had built. But when [Lambesis was arrested], I think we were surprised, [but] we weren’t shocked like everyone else. This came out of the blue for everyone else… we did not expect things to go as far as they did, but [what Lambesis did] wasn’t completely out of character.”
This interview and more of this week’s episode can be streamed in full at MetalSucks.net here.
Wovenwar's self-titled debut is due out August 5th, 2014 and you can check out a song from the release at this location. Lambesis meanwhile has been sentenced to six years of incarceration for attempting to hire an undercover officer to murder his wife.
Leading up to his sentencing, Tim Lambesis gave a lengthy, in-depth interview to Alternative Press, covering a range of topics from his state of mind, marital problems, steriods, the solicitation to commit murder charges, prison, the future and more. The interview spans 6 pages (don't be fooled by the initial 3 linked from the first page). Here's a bit about how the actual plot got started:
This guy at my gym, my workout partner, I just expressed to him how sad I was. I asked the guy I had been buying steroids from, the steroid dealer, if we could meet. I’m talking to him in the parking lot one afternoon and I go, “Hey, how’s it going?” He goes, “Pretty good, unless you maybe need me to kill somebody for you.” Like that, right off the bat.
I’m kind of like, “Whoa, what are you talking about?” He goes, “Well I’ve heard you’ve been pretty frustrated with your wife…” He just kind of had—I mean, he’s a steroid dealer. He has a sketchy background, you know what I mean? So I’m thinking, “Geez, where’s this guy going with this?” He starts asking me these seemingly rhetorical questions. “Have you tried working things out with your lawyer?” I said yeah, but it was going to be a couple of months before I saw the judge. “Have you tried taking them to a social worker? Like a counselor?” I said yes and the social worker had met with the kids.
He goes, “Well, you know your other option is I can hook you up with somebody that could do this.” And he goes, “Can you think of a better option?” He’s asking it like it’s a rhetorical question. I remember thinking at the time, “This doesn’t feel right. This doesn’t feel like my best option.” But my thinking at that time… As much as I wished there was a better option, this is my best option. Obviously, right now, I can think of a dozen things and I understand the legal system much better. Legally speaking, there are emergency type things where you can get a judge to see you earlier, which I didn’t know. There are dozens of things I can think of now. But I just started to develop this mindset of, “Alright… I guess this seems like the path I’m going to have to go down.”
There was also this little bit, which our readers might know a little something about...
There was an April Fool’s story online that you were already serving a nine-year sentence. And you had escaped from jail, Shawshank Redemption -style.
I know. One of my friends hit me up because he thought it was real. The judge has three options to choose from: three years, six years or nine. The way the credits work in California, you serve 50 percent of that time. So it’s actually one and a half years, three years or four and-a-half years.
Read the full article at Alternative Press.
Radio.com is reporting that Tim Lambesis has been given a six year sentence after attempting to hire an undercover law enforcement officer to murder his wife. The site reports:
Tim Lambesis, singer for San Diego metal band As I Lay Dying, was sentenced today (May 16) to six years in prison in a San Diego Superior Courtroom for attempting to hire a hit man to kill his wife. Judge Carlos Armour handed down the sentencing.
Last February, Lambesis threw himself on the mercy of the court by pleading guilty to the felony charge of soliciting the murder of his wife of eight years, Meggan Lambesis.
The verdict was handed down as the singer’s ex-bandmates Nick Hipa, Phil Sgrosso and Josh Gilbert looked on. Spilling into the section typically reserved for the defense, many of Meggan’s more than three dozen supporters adorned small yellow felt hearts pinned to their shirts to make their sentiments known.
In other news, the remaining members of the band have teamed up with a member of Oh, Sleeper to form new project Wovenwar. Check out the first single at this location.
Read the full article at Radio.com.
This week, our Official Podcast brings you another round of live music recaps. First, co-host Mike Smith (OverkillExposure) revisits the burgeoning local metal scene of Lynchburg, Virginia – previously covered here – with a rundown of its newly minted “Thursday Throwdown” series of concerts.
The second show, held at Phase 2 on Thursday, April 17th, presented a compact and delightfully complete ceremony of rock and metal tribute, starting with three-piece cover act Mourn The Illusion, continuing with progressive melodic metallers Unspoken, and culminating with headliners and local hard rock darlings Singleside ("Moving Forward" album review here).
Next up, co-host Kevin Perez (n0thinghead) discusses a recent headlining performance in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, by Canadian bizarro-metal wackos Protest The Hero. Check out his thoughts about the bill, which included openers Intervals, eclectic tech-proggers The Safety Fire, and strangely, Detroit thrashers Battlecross.
Finally, your co-hosts react to the recently released single “All Rise” from Wovenwar, the new formation of As I Lay Dying members minus prison-bound frontman Tim Lambesis. Wovenwar features Jordan Mancino (drums), Nick Hipa (guitar), Phil Sgrosso (guitar), Josh Gilbert (bass/vocals), and Oh, Sleeper frontman Shane Blay (vocals).
Check out the podcast here, enjoy, and offer us your feedback.
Wovenwar - featuring the talents of Jordan Mancino (drums), Nick Hipa (guitar), Phil Sgrosso (guitar), and Josh Gilbert (bass/vocals) of act As I Lay Dying and Shane Blay (vocals) of Oh, Sleeper - has just released the first single titled "All Rise."
The track off the band's upcoming self-titled debut, due out in late Summer, 2014. Check out the song below or over at the official Wovenwar site here.
Over approximately the last year, Wovewar completed work on the new material recorded with producer Bill Stevenson (Descendents, Black Flag), with mixing duties currently being handled by Colin Richardson (Slipknot, Machine Head, Trivium). Further details on the release are forthcoming. More...
After the weird announcement that turned out to actually be from Tim Lambesis and not the other members of the band, the non-felonious members of As I Lay Dying have revealed their new project: Wovenwar! The band consists of:
SHANE BLAY (vocals)
NICK HIPA (guitar)
PHIL SGROSSO (guitar)
JOSH GILBERT (bass/vocals)
JORDAN MANCINO (drums)
Check out a teaser trailer below, or you can follow Wovenwar at the band's official website and Facebook profile. The band has stated that a new single titled "All Rise" will also be released online on April 21st. More...
Earlier today a statement was posted online which appeared to come from the members of As I Lay Dying updating the band's status while Tim Lambesis awaits sentencing for attempting to hire a hit man to murder his ex-wife.
Now guitarist Nick Hipa has announced via his Facebook page that the statement - despite being written in the third person about Tim Lambesis and seeming to come from Jordan Mancino - was actually written by Tim himself.
While the content of the message about the other members moving forward with different projects was apparently correct, the rest is not as clear. Nick comments:
"Good day friends,
"This morning an update was posted over at www.asilaydying.com on the current happenings and individual futures of all the bands' members. For Jordan, Josh, Nick, Phil, management, and record label, this was an interesting first time read as all parties were oblivious to its construction, intent, and release.
"Though Tim is the only one with access to the As I Lay Dying site, the rest of us have been releasing content through our personal social media accounts to reveal that we are carrying on in a new band. Our truest intentions were to make this unveiling interesting and exciting for anyone who has supported us over the past year. With information so instantaneous and disposable these days, we had hoped to show you how things were coming together rather than simply tell you.
"We never want to capture attention dramatically, which is precisely why we've been off the radar for close to a year. Though the third-person statement released earlier compromises a lot of how we had hoped to unroll things, we remain positive in our outlooks and look forward to sharing new music soon.
"With love and gratitude,
"Jordan, Josh, Phil, Nick."
Update: despite appearing to come from the other band members, this statement was apparently written by Tim Lambesis with no input from the other members of As I Lay Dying. Check out Nick Hipa's response over here.
With Tim Lambesis likely to be incarcerated for serious time in a murder-for-hire plot to kill his ex-wife, the future of As I Lay Dying seemed bleak.
As I Lay Dying has now checked in with the following update about the band's status and the members working on new projects:
"There have been a lot of questions from fans over the past year and we'll hopefully be able to provide more answers over time. However, this update is only to address things related to AILD's future.
"Originally, we said we'd update fans as soon as we knew more. We apologize for not sticking to that. It seemed best to wait until definitive news came in with a specific timeline. However, in light of speculation on other sites, an official update from As I Lay Dying seems to be the best way to clarify some things.
"A good starting point is to clarify some things that have often been falsely reported. Tim was not a Christian at the time of his arrest, nor was As I Lay Dying a Christian band in 2013. It hadn't been for some time and, to the best of my knowledge, only one of the people playing in the band even claimed to be a Christian at that time. The changed view had been written about it in a handful of As I Lay Dying songs and Tim's later atheistic view had even been documented in court records. However, it doesn't make as sensational of a headline to refer to the arrest of the 'Ex-Christian Metal Sub-Genre Independent Artist' as it does the 'Grammy Nominated Top 10 Selling Christian Rockstar' of the past.
"With all that said, we don't know how each musician from the previous era of As I Lay Dying will think about these topics in the future. For example, Tim has spent much of the last year reevaluating what originally convinced him to abandon belief in God. I have gathered that after much brokenness and repentance he sees things differently, considers himself a follower of Jesus, someone submitted to the will of God, or whatever you want to call it. That's for him to talk about when he's comfortable and only time will tell if he is sincere. What is certain though is that it's impossible to face the events of last year without being changed in some way. Let's let the guys focus on future music and hopefully the headline driven press will leave this issue alone for a while given some clarification. More...
This past Tuesday, April 1st, dawned with a bang and ended with the agonized wail of countless deceived, angry, and fed-up folks. It's what the kids these days might call "butthurt." Even in this high-speed age of unlimited information, it seems that some still have trouble checking the calendar or fact-checking stories.
Your Metalunderground.com Official Podcast co-hosts, Kevin Perez (n0thinghead) and Mike Smith (OverkillExposure) found this all quite amusing. So in the irreverent spirits of Mark Twain, Orson Welles, and The Onion, they decided Tuesday evening to chuck all journalistic ethics and decency right out the window and wage a valiant, side-splitting battle against truth.
This week's episode is one hundred percent fact-free, and features a tongue-in-cheek rundown of some of Metalunderground.com's 2014 April Fools highlights, posted as headlines throughout Tuesday.
Among the lampooned: every single member of Metallica (in what is sure to be an evil, thrashing comeback effort, "Hell Hath No Fury"), prison escapee Tim Lambesis (As I Lay Dying), evasive interviewee Phil Anselmo (Pantera, etc.), would-be cinematic deity Dave Mustaine (Megadeth), and noted Oscar-lacking actor Leonardo DiCaprio, whose "Meshuggah face" in the recent hit "The Wolf Of Wall Street" has earned him an onstage guest appearance with the twisted Swedish metal titans.
Please forgive the avalanche of lies and silly humor; we advise you to remove your "serious" caps for this episode. Also, a few bong rips beforehand wouldn't hurt. Take a listen here and enjoy!
Co-hosts Kevin Perez (n0thinghead) and Mike Smith (OverkillExposure) kick off this week’s podcast episode by tackling some of the cultural peculiarities of hardcore crowds versus metal crowds, with a specific focus on the irritating “hardcore dancing” trend.
Next up, a public service warning. Mike shares a disturbing story related by singer Tommy “Vext” Cummings (Snot, ex-Divine Heresy), in which he confesses to have been manipulated and deceived by a conniving “Catfish” at large within the online metal network. Beware a Facebook profile by the name of “Elizabeth George” and the Twitter handle "SWEET_BGIRL" with multiple connections to metal industry types; this individual is a dangerous con artist.
Also, on a related and semi-prophetic note, refer to the opening segment of the recent OpEd “From Dicks To Chicks.”
Finally, the news of the week: Kevin and Mike discuss the fate of As I Lay Dying and Austrian Death Machine bandleader Tim Lambesis, who has just pled guilty to the attempted contract murder of his estranged wife. As they explore the implications, your hosts do not shy away from facing various matters of morality, personal responsibility, standards, and accountability.
Take a listen here, enjoy, and offer us your feedback.
After being arrested in May of 2013 for attempting to hire an undercover police agent to murder his estranged wife, Tim Lambesis (Austrian Death Machine, As I Lay Dying) is now going to be serving up to nine years in jail, according to an update from NBC San Diego.
An excerpt from the news site reads:
The singer of the Grammy-nominated Christian metal band "As I Lay Dying" pleaded guilty to his role in a murder-for-hire plot.
Carlsbad resident Tim Lambesis entered the change of plea in court Tuesday, admitting that he hired a hit man to kill his estranged wife. As a result of his change of plea, Lambesis will serve nine years according to a court clerk.
It's not clear yet if the "9 years" referenced in the article was a maximum or the official amount of time for a plea deal, as Lambesis has not had an official sentencing hearing yet. Further info will be forthcoming.
Despite Lambesis' arrest, Austrian Death Machine continued on with the crowd funded third album "Triple Brutal," which is set for release on April 1st. It's unclear at this point what the band will be doing for fans who were to receive a visit from Lambesis as part of the perks for donating to the campaign. More...
Read the full article at NBC San Diego.
Tim Lambesis of As I Lay Dying and Austrian Death Machine had his bail lowered back in May, and has been out on house arrest while awaiting trial for allegedly hiring an undercover agent to murder his estranged wife.
The San Diego Reader has now reported Lambesis will be allowed an exception for his house arrest to seek physical therapy for a neck injury. Excerpts from the story follow:
"Defendant Timothy Lambesis is currently on house arrest and due to the restrictions of his release cannot leave the house to seek medical attention for the neck injury from which he is currently suffering.” This statement was made by the defendant’s private attorney, Thomas Warwick Jr., who filed papers asking a court to allow Lambesis exceptions to his house arrest.
Superior Court Judge Kimberlee Lagotta signed an order allowing “defendant to go to his physical therapy appointments” the same day the motion was filed, August 2, 2013.
The lead singer for the heavy metal band As I Lay Dying particularly requested, and was granted, permission to go to a therapist named Lanele Stafford at Coast Kinesiology in Del Mar. There was one other location named as a destination for therapy, an orthopedic group in La Jolla, which was also allowed by the court.
Tim Lambesis will return to court on September 16th for his next hearing. The date of the actual trial has not been set at this time.
Read the full article at San Diego Reader.
Killswitch Engage has checked in with the following announcement about recruiting a fill-in drummer for upcoming tour dates:
"We have some not so good news to announce. Our drummer Justin Foley recently had a bicycle accident and broke his collarbone. So he will not be able to do this upcoming Asia/Europe tour that begins later this week. Luckily we were able to find a replacement drummer on short notice, so we will not be canceling any dates.
"The replacement drummer will be our longtime friend Jordan Mancino from As I Lay Dying. Barring any unforeseen issues, Justin should be back on track in time for our upcoming North American tour with Lamb of God, which starts in late October. Killswitch would like to thank our Asia and Europe fans in advance for understanding. As always, thank you so much for the support." More...
Tim Lambesis (As I Lay Dying, Austrian Death Machine, Pyrithion) was arrested last week for allegedly attempting to hire an undercover officer to murder his wife Meggan, who filed for divorce last year.
Lambesis subsequently plead "not guilty" to the charges, and his bail was set at $3 million. Now NBC San Diego reports that Lambesis received a new bail hearing, and his bail has been lowered to $2 million, although he still remains in custody at this point and apparently has not made bail.
According to the article, Tim's attorney Tom Warwick has now made reference to steroid usage - which was widely speculated to be at the root of the issue when news of the arrest first broke. An excerpt follows:
The frontman started taking supplements, then steroids, that led to what Warwick referred to as “changes in his physiological and mental status.” He went from 170 to 220-pounds and in his attorney’s words, “Was not the same person. He was irritable and lost God.” A forensic psychiatrist who consulted with the defense said Lambesis got “roid rage” after using steroids.
His attorney said Lambesis is now off steroids, going through withdrawal, and in total isolation in jail for protection from other inmates. He’s also getting personal counseling from a jail chaplain.
As Lambesis remains in jail, As I Lay Dying has dropped off the coming Killswitch Engage tour, with Darkest Hour and The Word Alive joining on the supporting slots instead.
Read the full article at NBC San Diego.
After Tim Lambesis was arrested for allegedly attempting to hire an undercover officer to murder his wife, the fate of the upcoming As I Lay Dying/Killswitch Engage tour was up in the air. As I Lay Dying has now issued the following announcement about officially canceling the run:
"In light of recent events, As I Lay Dying will unfortunately not be taking part in the upcoming tour with Killswitch Engage.
"Given the circumstances, we feel that it is best for the band to be off the road while the current situation gets sorted. We'd like to thank all of our fans for their ongoing support at this difficult time.
"-Jordan, Nick, Phil, and Josh."
Lambesis' bail was set at $3 million and he currently remains in custody. Further details on the case and footage from his arraignment can be found at this location.
Killswitch Engage will however be continuing on with the trek, bringing on different supporting groups. The band comments:
"Since As I Lay Dying has announced they will not be able to join us on this tour...we would like to welcome Darkest Hour, and The Word Alive on the Disarm the Descent 2013 U.S. TOUR! Please welcome both bands with open arms, ROCK!"
I personally find the idea of putting people on a pedestal to be incredibly naive and childish. At some point, whoever you idolize as being perfect will turn out to have some sort of horrible character flaws that you'll never be able to forgive. People are human, and with that comes not being perfect. Hence why I'm able to say that I don't mind somebody's offstage behavior as much as I do the actual music. In the same way, I don't care about lyrical themes that embrace politics that I disagree with. More...
After pleading "not guilty" on charges of soliciting the murder of his estranged wife, footage has now been posted online from Tim Lambesis' arraignment, which is available below.
During the proceedings the prosecution outlined its case and stated what allegedly occurred. According to the prosecution, Lambesis gave an undercover agent money, pictures of his wife, gate codes for her home, and dates when the murder could occur, along with specifically stating he wanted her dead - apparently all of which was recorded on audio.
In addition to the recent statement made by Tim's primary band As I Lay Dying, the members of his new outfit Pyrithion also comment:
"I want to thank everyone for their patience and for their concerns and good wishes that you have shown the band this last week. Obviously this is a situation that can't be planned for and therefor we have been trying not to speak out of turn. As of now, we don't have any more information on the situation than what we can find in the news but we want to make sure this plays out how it needs to and that we don't in any way interfere. Thank you so much for the continued support everyone, it means a ton to us."