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Wintersun

Formed: 2004
From: Helsinki, Finland
Last Known Status: Active

Latest Wintersun News

Below is our complete Wintersun news coverage, including columns and articles pertaining to the band. Some articles listed may be indirectly related, such as side projects of the band members, etc.

Note: We began associating news directly with bands in late 2003. Therefore, earlier band news may not be listed on this page.

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Paganfest 2015 Lineup Announced

Finland's Wintersun has been confirmed as one of the main headliners of the upcoming Paganfest tour 2015. Wintersun will team up with Finnish comrades Turisas and Dutch folksters Heidefolk. Support acts will be Obscurity and Frosttide.

Furthermore, some of the dates will be Paganfest extended shows led by folk metal superstars Korpiklaani. They are joined by Hannover’s finest Grailknights and Germany's Finsterforst to complete the Paganfest 2015 billing.

Currently announced dates are as follows:

19.03. DE Ludwigsburg - Rockfabrik
20.03. DE Leipzig - Hellraiser *Extended Show
21.03. DE Oberhausen - Turbinenhalle *Extended Show
22.03. NL Tilburg - 013 *Extended Show
23.03. DE Hamburg - Markthalle
24.03. CH Pratteln - Z7
25.03. DE Saarbrücken - Garage
26.03. DE Frankfurt - Batschkapp
27.03. DE München - Backstage *Extended Show
28.03. AT Wien - Arena *Extended Show
29.03. DE Berlin - Postbahnhof *Extended Show

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Wintersun To Launch Studio Crowd Funding Campaign

The Wintersun studio saga continues...

After posting a lengthy message online back in July about how no lesser studio could possibly do justice to the follow-up to the "Time" album (reviewed here) and trying to leverage the online rage of fans to force Nuclear Blast into building the band its own studio (followed by an even lengthier message defending the first one that had people pulling out the popcorn), Wintersun will now be launching a crowd funding campaign so the fans can foot the bill for said studio.

The following message gauging interest in such a campaign was posted on the Wintersun Facebook page:

"Wintersun Studio & Time II crowd funding survey (Please read first before liking!): Good news guys! We have reached an agreement with Nuclear Blast. We gotta give them big props for coming through for us! But first, we need to do a little survey to estimate if we could actually reach our crowd funding goal (which is pretty damn high) before we rush into it.

"We need to estimate carefully our goal, what is possible and what is not before we can move forward with our plans. This is sort of a test run, but this will hopefully determine approximately how much support we would have. We also want to be clear that the crowd funding is not a charity, we are not asking for donations or anything for free. You would totally get your monies worth!

"So we would like to know... If we did this crowd funding project, how many of you guys would be willing to pre-order a TIME II High Quality download package? Stem mixes and many other killer goodies would be included in the perk. All details will be revealed later, but this package would be huge, something never done before! Here´s a little taster what the package would include:

TIME II
- High quality full album download (wav 24bit, 44.1kHz), exactly the way the album was recorded, mixed and mastered
- Includes all tracks (Fields of Snow, The Way of the Fire, One with the Shadows, Ominous Clouds, Storm, Silver Leaves)
- Beautiful PDF extended digital booklet with all crowd funding backer names included (optional)

TIME II Stems
- Separated mix tracks for all Drums, Bass, Rhythm Guitars, Melody Guitars & Solos, Vocals, Orchestrations of all songs
- Make your own mix, adjust the levels for your own liking, listen all the main instruments separately, discover and learn all the secrets inside the mix layers

"But that´s just for starters, this package would include many other items and surprises. We feel very confident about this and trust that you all would go crazy about it! And this package is just the first perk on the list. But this would be our main focus for the campaign.

"The price would be very affordable and with the guarantee that 100% of the raised money would go for the funding of our studio and Wintersun´s album productions. This would be your chance of a lifetime to support us directly and get an insane TIME II package for your money at the same time (pun intended!). So win-win! All we want you to do for now is...

"Please LIKE this post if you would buy and support us.

"Please DO NOT click the LIKE if you would not buy.

"AND PLEASE SHARE THIS POST TO EVERYONE!!! Because it's important that all our potential supporters see this post and we get some idea whether there's a chance to reach our goal. Thanks!"

So, what do you guys think - is this legitimate use of crowd funding in a win/win for fan and musician, or should the group suck it up and do what ever other metal band on the planet with a major label record contract manages to do and release albums on a regular schedule? More...

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Metalunderground.com Official Podcast, Episode 25

Last week, we were forced to cancel the Metalunderground.com Official Podcast due to scheduling conflicts and a relative dearth of fascinating, frightening, or fabulous news. This week, we are back with a vengeance.

In an extended episode, co-hosts Kevin Perez (n0thinghead) and Mike Smith (OverkillExposure) hold a series of intense discussions regarding three different, but equally captivating, current metal topics.

Up first: the seemingly endless recording/production/mixing woes of epic Finnish act Wintersun, which released “Time I” in 2012 after an eight year wait since the now-classic self-titled debut. Fans are poised with bated breath in anticipation of the upcoming sequel, but master songwriter (and admitted perfectionist) Jari Mäenpää just keeps running into delay after delay.

In a fit of frustration, Mäenpää recently took to social media to explain his technological and financial catch-22 vis-à-vis Nuclear Blast Records. Mike and Kevin share some mixed opinions of all this. What do you think?

Next, it’s onto more of the outrageously popular Slipknot, whose only necessary introduction is this: some love to love them, others love to hate them, but no one can fully categorize them (please don’t argue that last point - you’re wrong).

It’s been six years since the best-selling but not-entirely-fan-pleasing “All Hope Is Gone,” and after several dramatic episodes and periods of doubt over the band’s survival, Slipknot has finally unveiled new music from the upcoming fifth studio album: video single “The Negative One.”

We, like most people, think this new stuff carries strong echoes of “Iowa” (2001) and even “Slipknot” (1999). We don’t entirely agree on just how good that is, however. Listen in to find out who you think is right!

Finally, we launch into a detailed reaction to “The Flesh Prevails,” the new full-length from atmospheric, progressive, insert-your-sub-sub-genre death metallers Fallujah. The album is packed with idiosyncrasies both excellent and dubious. Listen in here to check out the full range of opinions, and don’t forget to subscribe via iTunes or RSS. Enjoy!

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Jari Mäenpää Further Clarifies Previous Statements

Wintersun mainman/composer Jari Mäenpää posted a lengthy clarifying statement on his previous remarks with regard to the delay in releasing "Time I," as well as his issues on crowdfunding and label Nuclear Blast Records.

Sit back, pull up a chair, grab a snack and a beverage and dig in. The statement goes in detail about the sound mix and issues surrounding "Time I" (see review here) and his battle with perfection. It reads:

"I feel like I need to explain the situation more clearly as some people seem to be a bit confused. So let's get more into the details…

"Let's get one thing clear first, I don´t live in a fantasy world. You might say I´m a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to album production. Fine, I´ll give you that. But I do make compromises, lots of them. TIME I was all a huge compromise. The melody guitars are all old modelling amps (not the new Axe-FXs and whatnots which sound pretty decent actually). There simply was not enough budget to record them properly in a professional studio, so they sound pretty horrible and are very hard mix and fit in with the rest of the instruments. The vocals were all recorded in various rehearsal places just with my laptop (the reason why it took so long to record them and also because of the hundreds of vocal tracks I needed to record for these albums). They are certainly not the best quality vocal recordings. Again, another compromise for not having enough budget for a 3rd party professional studio. I also wanted some time to practise my vocals while recording, which I´ve never really done before, but you can hear the improvement. Also I do some of the vocal arrangement work and experiment with different things while recording, this would be impossible in a 3rd party studio. The rhythm guitars were actually recorded in a 3rd party studio, but I didn´t have enough time to craft the sound exactly like I want it. Rhythm guitar is the thing I´m the most perfectionist and passionate about. There´s only a handful of rhythm guitar sounds I like from the millions of heavy metal records out there, so you can imagine how hard it is for me to be able to produce the guitar sound of my dreams in few days in a 3rd party studio. Impossible. And to fit it in with hundreds of orchestration & synth instruments, to not muddy the bass, to be able to scoop the mids so the whole mix doesn't sound like a kitchen radio (I don´t like mids in metal guitars plus the orchestra instruments already eat a lot of the mids space), but still keep the upper mids smooth and not harsh, to not mask the drum overheads, but still having enough modern highs and upper mids attack to have it cut through the mix. This is almost a mission impossible, but I know I could do it in my own time in my own studio... So the time ran out from the studio´s “taximeter” and I was left with unsatisfying guitar sound and very hard to fit in the mix (still had to pay the studio bill though). I was very unhappy about this, but still released the album! The orchestrations were made with just one computer which forced me to use time consuming workarounds and was very stressful. I won´t even get into the technical problems I´ve had to deal with over the years. It took 3 years of sweat and tears to make the orchestrations the way I had to do them. This was the hardest task and it nearly burned me out. Never again this way! I would need a computer farm to do the all the orchestrations in realtime without slow workarounds. More...

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Wintersun Frontman Explains New Album Delay

After the long wait for "Time I" (reviewed here) to finally be released, fans have been left hanging again waiting for the follow-up "Time II." Now Wintersun's Jari Mäenpää has issued the following statement online about the reasons behind the delay:

"Reality update about crowd funding, TIME II and future albums. I´m very happy to see that we have so much dedicated fans that would be willing to pledge and be a part of funding a studio for Wintersun, so I could make the next Wintersun album without it taking another 10 years again.

"I´ve been thinking about this Kickstarter/Pledge crowd funding thing for a while and I´m very confident now that there is enough of you guys that would help us raise the money for the Wintersun studio! This would give me the freedom to make music efficiently and nonstop. It would eliminate lot of the problems I´ve struggled with all my life and still continue to struggle everyday. For example right now I need a studio to reamp guitars for TIME II. And not just any studio, my own studio where I can craft my sounds exactly like I want them. 3rd party studios have never worked for me and I´ve never gotten satisfactory results for the insane prices they charge.

"I live in a small shitty apartment building and I have neighbors. It is very very hard to work like this. I can´t record vocals, I can´t practice my singing, I can´t record guitars, I can´t record guitars even with modelling amps, because the electricity is so bad in this shitty building so I get lots of interference, I even play and practice the electric guitar acoustically without an amp 99% of the time in my home, I can´t record drums or basically any acoustic instruments, I don´t have the room or cool space for a big computer farm which is a must for the orchestrations for the next album (the place is too small and hot even for the one computer I have), I can´t mix properly, ´cause the room is so bad and there´s always ambient noise in and outside the building. That´s why I usually turn my sleeping rhythm around and mix at nights, but that causes problems in my everyday life. I can´t do pretty much anything properly in this situation. Building a professional studio for Wintersun would erase all this and give us the freedom to make music nonstop. It would upgrade our album sound significantly and most importantly speed up the album making process significantly. This would even raise our live game. With proper preproduction, able to tweak our live sounds and setup properly we would sound pretty incredible live. We would also be able to rehearse more and that would allow us to be able to play live more often and come to places where we normally have not been able to come. The studio would allow us to have more time for everything. More...

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Wintersun Concert Crashed By Dom Joly

Dom Joly surprised a crowd of metal heads at a Wintersun show with his "Fool Britannia" sketch series when he appeared for an unexpected intermission. See the looks of bewilderment on the show-goers faces in the clip below, which was shot in London at The Garage on July 16th, 2013.

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Wintersun Shines In Sold Out Venue In Cambridge

The last place I ever thought I would see a show was in the middle of the campus of the “elite of society” – Harvard University. Though not confirmed, I had heard that this particular show was the first metal event at the newly opened Sinclair club, which was directly in the heart of the college. I had made the 114 mile trek to the area countless times, however, I don’t recall the traffic being this annoying. When I went to see Wintersun and Eluveitie at Royale in downtown Boston, the trip was nuisance free. But, it was Friday night, and stupidity on the road was nothing new. The area was wrought with college kids, yuppie preps and artsy types, so it was a pleasure to walk around in my Sodom – “Epitome of Torture” shirt, its double meaning was painfully clear. The venue proved to be a rather loose, without any pushy asshole bouncers and the club itself had decent sound. If you have been to the upstairs part of The Palladium in Worcester, imagine it double the size with a much better stage (raised to where you can see), much better lighting and double the upstairs space where you can view the band from just above the floor crowd from all sides/angles. More...

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Starkill Gearing Up For North American Tour

Chicago based Starkill (formerly Massakren) will be hitting the road next month in support of new album "Fires of Life," released earlier this year on Century Media Records (check out our review here).

Founding member Parker Jameson had this to say about the upcoming tour: "We're incredibly honored and excited to be touring North America with Wintersun, Fleshgod Apocalypse, and Arsis. As fans of--and having been inspired by--all of these bands, we're glad to be part of the lineup and can't wait to share the stage with these guys."

Check out Starkill on tour: More...

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Tuska Open Air Metal Festival 2013: Day 1

Tuska Open Air Metal Festival promised to be an event to remember this year, with huge acts such as King Diamond, Wintersun and Nightwish taking command of the main stage! With finally perfect summer weather and a lineup that challenged many other summer festivals, Friday came with much awaited anticipation!

Many of the bands this year were scheduled at the same time, perhaps the cause of this was that in the past there have always been four stages, but this year there were only three. Only two of these stages allowed media to shoot footage and photos, which led to a massive and unfortunate stress factor to an otherwise phenomenal festival experience. In addition, overcrowded photo pits with unqualified photographers led to an unfortunate decline in coverage from other medias this year. Die hard Tuska fans and Medias still showed up in hordes, and showed why Tuska is still the metal festival to be at in Helsinki! More...

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Wintersun Cancels Castle Rock Festival Appearance

Finnish symphonic metal act Wintersun cancelled the band's performance at the upcoming Castle Rock Festival. The announcement by the band reads:

"Due to unforeseen logistical problems Wintersun will not be able to play this year´s Castle Rock Festival in Mülheim/Germany on July 13. Wintersun regret this decision deeply and we'll do our very best to make it to a future Castle Rock.

"The vacant headlining position has now been taken over by fellow finns Korpiklaani, who have kindly agreed to fill in for Wintersun."

The remaining dates of the Wintersun European Summer Tour are as follows:

28.06.2013 FI – Helsinki, Tuska Open Air
14.07.2013 FI – Joensuu, Ilosaarirock
16.07.2013 UK – London, The Garage
17.07.2013 UK – Manchester, Club Academy
18.07.2013 UK – Nottingham, Rescue Rooms
19.07.2013 UK – Newcastle, O2 Academy 2
20.07.2013 UK – Belfast, Limelight 2
21.07.2013 IE – Dublin, The Pint
22.07.2013 UK – Bristol, O2 Academy 2
25.07.2013 DE – Chemnitz, Rock im Betonwerk
26.07.2013 SI – Tolmin, Metaldays

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Wintersun Announces North American Tour

Finnish metal act Wintersun announced a headlining tour in North America this summer. Beginning August 6th in Maryland, the band embarks on an extensive tour with supporting acts: Fleshgod Apocalypse, Arsis and Starkill. Tickets will go on-sale on Wednesday, June 5th at 10:00 am local time via TicketMaster, Live-Nation, and venue ticketing services. Additional tickets will be available via any other outlets on Friday, June 7th at 10:00 am local time.

The band commented: "We're thrilled to return to North America for a full-scale headliner tour in August and September! It will be our first longer own headlining tour ever and this time, without any setlist length limitations, we'll be able to offer the North American crowds a special show - representing both the Wintersun and TIME I albums. There might also be some surprises in the setlist as well... We are really looking forward to sharing the live magic with YOU, all the fans out there!"

The dates and venues are as follows: More...

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Wintersun To Host Fan Chat

This Friday Wintersun will kick off the band's 2013 summer tour at the Beastival in Germany. Right before that you will have the chance to chat with drummer Kai Hahto.

Tomorrow, Thursday May 30th from 17.00 – 18.00 CET you can be a part of the Wintersun live chat and ask Kai your questions at this location. Kat comments: "I am happy to spend one hour with the fans in the video chat tomorrow and answer some questions. Hope to see some of you there!"

Wintersun will be touring in support of latest album "Time I" (reviewed here). Catch the band live:

31.05.2013 DE – Geiselwind, Beastival
21.06.2013 FI – Nummijaervi, Nummirock
22.06.2013 DE - St. Goarshausen, Metalfest DE
23.06.2013 FR – Clisson, Hellfest
24.06.2013 ES – Bilbao, Rockstar
25.06.2013 ES – Madrid, Caracol
26.06.2013 ES – Barcelona, Apolo 2
28.06.2013 FI – Helsinki, Tuska Open Air
13.07.2013 DE - Mühlheim an der Ruhr, Castle Rock 14
14.07.2013 FI – Joensuu, Ilosaarirock
16.07.2013 UK – London, The Garage
17.07.2013 UK – Manchester, Club Academy
18.07.2013 UK – Nottingham, Rescue Rooms
19.07.2013 UK – Newcastle, O2 Academy 2
20.07.2013 UK – Belfast, Limelight 2
21.07.2013 IE – Dublin, The Pint
22.07.2013 UK – Bristol, O2 Academy 2
25.07.2013 DE – Chemnitz, Rock im Betonwerk
26.07.2013 SI – Tolmin, Metaldays
03.08.2013 MX - Mexico City, Circo Volador
10.08.2013 CA – Montreal, Heavy Montreal
11.08.2013 CA – Toronto, Opera House

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Wintersun Announces European Shows

Wintersun has just been confirmed to play several shows in the U.K. and Ireland in July 2013. The group will rock the stages in London, Manchester, Nottingham, Newcastle, Belfast, Dublin and Bristol. Wintersun comments:

"We're very happy to announce a UK / Ireland Tour in July 2013! After the great reception we got during our last visit in UK at Bloodstock 2011 we're really excited to finally return to your area with seven club shows in July! Hope to see you there!"

The band also is currently working on the follow-up to "Time I" (reviewed here), which is due for release next year. More...

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Wintersun Comments On New Album "Time II"

After an 8 year wait, Wintersun fans finally saw the release of new album "Time I" (reviewed here) back in October of 2012. The band has now checked in with the following announcement about the follow-up album:

"Hi everyone! After some Festival- and Summer show announcements we thought we might also give you a heads up regarding TIME II.

"2012 was a really great year for us, the release of TIME I was a huge success and we did two successful tours and many sold out shows. But we are aiming even higher and take Wintersun to the next level in 2013! We have 3 official webstores up and running (Europe, Finland, North America) and we hope you guys like the available items. There´ll be constant updates and new products and we will also have interesting competitions and specials coming up on our pages, so be sure to check it all out.

"We are starting the mix of TIME II and it will be released early 2014. The album will continue where TIME I left, but it will be an upgrade in production, it will be equally epic, if not more. It will contain some 'fast stuff' and some guitar shredding (incl. 7 solos) like some of you metal heads and guitar wankers have been wishing for. It will also contain some of the most beautiful music ever written, that will bring a tear to your eye.

"We are playing some huge summer festivals in Finland and in EU (Incl. Tuska, Nummirock, Metalfest, Beastival, Hellfest...) and for the first time going to Spain. We are also taking part in EMMA GAALA ('Finnish Grammy') in March for the nomination of 'Best Metal Album of the Year.' We know it´s going to be an exciting year. It is because all of you who have supported us during the years, we have been able to grow and continue to do what we love.

"Thank you for all the support! Stay tuned for some further exciting live news soon! We hope to see all of you on the road and during the festival season 2013!"

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The "Big Teutonic 4" To Play Beastival 2013

Prepare to witness history being written right in front of your eyes – at the first Beastival festival in Geiselwind, Germany, that will take place from May 30th to June 1st, 2013.

The "Big Teutonic 4" – the legendary quartet of German thrash metal bands that shaped the European heavy metal scene – will share the same stage on the same evening. Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, and Tankdard will tear down the venue and thrash you into the ground at the Beastival 2013. Other confirmed bands include:

Sabaton
Wintersun
Kataklysm
Die Apokalyptischen Reiter
Korpiklaani

More bands are to be announced soon. Secure your tickets for this epic event at the Nuclear Blast web shop here. For further information, visit the festival's website.

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Wintersun Updates Tour Schedule

Wintersun, which released long-awaited new album "Time I" back in October, has checked in with the following announcement about upcoming tour dates:

"Hi everyone! Checking in from the ongoing North American tour (right now we´re in Canada) and we´re more than happy to announce further shows in 2013. This time: SPAIN! We´ll be playing the following cities:

24.06.2013 Bilbao, Rockstar
25.06.2013 Madrid, Caracol
26.06.2013 Barcelona, Apolo 2

"Stay tuned for updates. Here the remaining dates of the North American Tour. Make sure to buy your tickets asap as they keep selling fast!"

07.12.12 Louis' Pub Saskatoon, Canada
08.12.12 West End Cultural Centre Winnipeg, Canada
09.12.12 Station 4 St Paul, MN
11.12.12 Bottom Lounge Chicago, IL
12.12.12 Peabody's Cleveland, OH
13.12.12 The Opera House Toronto, Canada
14.12.12 Mavericks Ottawa, Canada **SOLD OUT**
15.12.12 Club Soda Montreal, Canada **SOLD OUT**
16.12.12 Imperial Quebec City, Canada
18.12.12 Water Street Music Hall (at The Club) Rochester, NY
19.12.12 Mr. Small's Theatre Pittsburgh, PA
20.12.12 Gramercy Theatre New York, NY **SOLD OUT**
21.12.12 Royale Boston Boston, MA

Confirmed festival shows 2013:
30.05. - 01.06.12 Beastival Geiselwind, Germany - www.beastival.com
20.06. - 22.06.12 Metalfest Loreley St. Goarshausen, Germany - www.metalfest.eu
28.06.12 Tuska Open Air Helsinki, Finland More...

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Wintersun Posts Lyric Video

Wintersun has posted a lyric video online for the "Time" track, which comes off the band's recently release new album "Time I." The album is available for order right here. Check out the clip below, and the track listing is as follows:

1. When Time Fades Away
2. Sons of Winter and Stars
I Rain of Stars
II Surrounded by Darkness
III Journey Inside a Dream
IV Sons of Winter and Stars
3. Land of Snow and Sorrow
4. Darkness and Frost
5. Time

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Wintersun Issues Tour Recap

Wintersun, which finally released the long-awaited "Time I" album (reviewed here), has checked in with the following tour recap and update about upcoming shows:

"HEIDENFEST TOUR DONE! NEXT STOP: NORTH AMERICA We arrived home yesterday from the Heidenfest Tour. The tour was a great success and we had a really good time on the road delivering the TIME I live experience to packed venues and loads of people all over Europe!

"We would like to thank all the fans who came to the shows; all the other bands on the tour - Korpiklaani, Varg, Trollfest, Krampus, Finntroll, Eisregen and Arkona; our fabulous crew; the local promoters and everybody else involved who shared the good times with us!

"Our next stop will be North America which we'll hit the first time ever on November 28, followed by 21 shows together with Eluveitie across USA and Canada. We can't wait to get there and hope to see a lot of people there as well! Stay tuned for more news about the tour!

"As far as we´re informed, the tickets for these shows are selling quite fast, so all of you folks from North America who wanna see us and this tour package - be sure to get your tix soon so we won´t miss to see you on our first ever N. A. tour!

"We will hit Europe again in Summer 2013 and do few selected festivals as well as some club shows inbetween the festivals. If you want to see Wintersun on a festival or club near you - write to the festivals and club promoters to reach out for a Wintersun show." More...

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Eluveitie To Perform Full "Helvetios" Album

Swiss folk metal act Eluveitie has issued the following announcement about performing the full "Helvetios" album on upcoming tour dates with Varg:

"North American tour update: the full album 'Helvetios' to be performed live! We cannot wait to be back to North America in support of our two recent releases, for the first time headlining with material from our latest concept album. To celebrate this occasion, we have decided to treat our North American fans to a very special show, one that in fact we have only performed once before: Besides a selection of our all-time hits, we will be playing the full album 'Helvetios' from beginning to end, live on stage, every night!

"Tickets are going fast, so make sure you get yours in time! Links can be found in the touring section on our website. Also included on the billing are Wintersun (who have just celebrated worldwide charts success with their long-awaited release 'Time I') and the German folk metal heroes from Varg." More...

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Wintersun Streaming New Album Online

The fans had to wait for 8 years but now on Friday, October 19th the new Wintersun album "Time I" will finally be released via Nuclear Blast. To shorten the wait, the band is currently streaming the whole album on its official homepage here and has also revealed all lyrics to the songs.

From Friday on the band will also be headlining the Heidenfest tour 2012. You can find all info, dates, running orders, and more at this location. The "Time I" track listing is as follows:

1. When Time Fades Away
2. Sons of Winter and Stars
I Rain of Stars
II Surrounded by Darkness
III Journey Inside a Dream
IV Sons of Winter and Stars
3. Land of Snow and Sorrow
4. Darkness and Frost
5. Time More...

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